Donovan Mitchell Discussion 4

VirginiaKnickFan · Post #1401 » by **VirginiaKnickFan** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 2:43 pm

F N 11 wrote:Thunder not paying up for Mitchell. Mitchell wants to be in NY. Just make a fair trade come on…

But when has Ainge ever made a fair trade from his side? :lol:

EnigmatiC · Post #1402 » by **EnigmatiC** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 2:44 pm

It's gonna be 6 picks + Obi + IQ + Grimes. Best to just accept it now.

SelbyCobra · Post #1403 » by **SelbyCobra** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 2:46 pm

Tyler Herro now has that dawg...ON him, I guess?

Hard to believe he got something so farcical that I would have believed it was a photoshop before I believed it was real if I didn't know. :lol:

This is like something out of a story arc Showtime comedy.

Fury · Post #1404 » by **Fury** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 2:48 pm

SelbyCobra wrote:Tyler Herro now has that dawg...ON him, I guess?

Hard to believe he got something so farcical that I would have believed it was a photoshop before I believed it was real if I didn't know.

People think the playoffs tanked his value but it’s actually this

nykballa2k4 · Post #1405 » by **nykballa2k4** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 2:49 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
ag3 wrote:So Windhorst thinks a deal gets done this week?
Nice. He's been the most accurate lately.

Windhorst nailed the Harden talks

he nailed the Rudy Gobert trade (jazz selling)

I believe him most right now.

Windy is a LeBron mouthpiece. So whatever Wade wants him to put out there he will...

KnicksGadfly · Post #1406 » by **KnicksGadfly** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 2:55 pm

Thunder ain't going after Mitchell when the past prospect since Lebron (apparently) is on the lotto docket in 2023

ibraheim718 · Post #1407 » by **ibraheim718** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 2:56 pm

I just don't understand why they would sign Brunson if they knew they were going to go after Mitchell. It baffles me. And it makes me wonder if Brunson even cares that that move will move him back off the ball as much as playing with Luka did. Maybe he really only did care about making his money and nothing else.

VirginiaKnickFan · Post #1408 » by **VirginiaKnickFan** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 2:58 pm

ibraheim718 wrote:I just don't understand why they would sign Brunson if they knew they were going to go after Mitchell. It baffles me. And it makes me wonder if Brunson even cares that that move will move him back off the ball as much as playing with Luka did. Maybe he really only did care about making his money and nothing else.

But did they know that Mitchell would be made available?

whocares1 · Post #1409 » by **whocares1** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 2:58 pm

EnigmatiC wrote:It's gonna be 6 picks + Obi + IQ + Grimes. Best to just accept it now.

Shouldn’t be.

ibraheim718 · Post #1410 » by **ibraheim718** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 3:01 pm

VirginiaKnickFan wrote:
ibraheim718 wrote:I just don't understand why they would sign Brunson if they knew they were going to go after Mitchell. It baffles me. And it makes me wonder if Brunson even cares that that move will move him back off the ball as much as playing with Luka did. Maybe he really only did care about making his money and nothing else.

But did they know that Mitchell would be made available?

To me that doesn't matter. You committed to Brunson first. Why go after Mitchell? It doesn't make basketball sense. It's just what the team always does which is collect players even though the fits aren't good. This backcourt pairing is a bad one trust me.

Chanel Bomber · Post #1411 » by **Chanel Bomber** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 3:02 pm

ibraheim718 wrote:I just don't understand why they would sign Brunson if they knew they were going to go after Mitchell. It baffles me. And it makes me wonder if Brunson even cares that that move will move him back off the ball as much as playing with Luka did. Maybe he really only did care about making his money and nothing else.

Great players are generally ball-dominant. I think Brunson is wise enough to know that he will need to play with players better than him to enjoy any real success in the NBA.

Mitchell's usage rate is extremely high but not on the same level as Luka. Luka's usage rate is higher than Jordan's or LeBron's. He's exceptionally ball-dominant.

omerome · Post #1412 » by **omerome** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 3:03 pm

So I'm just going to say that right now, I think the Knicks need to hit pause on the deal. Just play the kids this season and then if Mitchell is still on the market at all- break, then they can potentially revisit it. I don't want to sell our guys short or cash out on them so early. Besides, what's the worst that can happen? We lose? Cool. We get additional talent.

whocares1 · Post #1413 » by **whocares1** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 3:04 pm

ibraheim718 wrote:
VirginiaKnickFan wrote:
ibraheim718 wrote:I just don't understand why they would sign Brunson if they knew they were going to go after Mitchell. It baffles me. And it makes me wonder if Brunson even cares that that move will move him back off the ball as much as playing with Luka did. Maybe he really only did care about making his money and nothing else.

But did they know that Mitchell would be made available?

To me that doesn't matter. You committed to Brunson first. Why go after Mitchell? It doesn't make basketball sense. It's just what the team always does which is collect players even though the fits aren't good. This backcourt pairing is a bad one trust me.

It’s a bad one but the Knicks don’t care. They want a star player and the Jazz have one to give. If Mitch was a PF they still make the trade.

Huey Freeman · Post #1414 » by **Huey Freeman** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 3:04 pm

ibraheim718 wrote:I just don't understand why they would sign Brunson if they knew they were going to go after Mitchell. It baffles me. And it makes me wonder if Brunson even cares that that move will move him back off the ball as much as playing with Luka did. Maybe he really only did care about making his money and nothing else.

Because he has 3-4 years left on his deal and he has no leverage to get himself to NYK. We already committed to Brunson before Ainge made it known that he covets draft picks over return talent. THIS is the ONLY reason why we are in the running to get him now because other teams could offer better players.

Fury · Post #1415 » by **Fury** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 3:05 pm

ibraheim718 wrote:
VirginiaKnickFan wrote:
ibraheim718 wrote:I just don't understand why they would sign Brunson if they knew they were going to go after Mitchell. It baffles me. And it makes me wonder if Brunson even cares that that move will move him back off the ball as much as playing with Luka did. Maybe he really only did care about making his money and nothing else.

But did they know that Mitchell would be made available?

To me that doesn't matter. You committed to Brunson first. Why go after Mitchell? It doesn't make basketball sense. It's just what the team always does which is collect players even though the fits aren't good. This backcourt pairing is a bad one trust me.

1. They never think ahead

But also

2. There was an article saying that they think Brunson would convince help convince Mitchell about the situation. That Brunson is considered a strong complementary piece and that they’re also friends.

I think the defensive stuff is a little overblown. Booker became a good defender and Harden played with short ass Paul too. I think Brunson and Mitchell are gonna be pretty efficient on offense and help Barrett and Randle regain their efficiency too.

EnigmatiC · Post #1416 » by **EnigmatiC** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 3:06 pm

whocares1 wrote:
EnigmatiC wrote:It's gonna be 6 picks + Obi + IQ + Grimes. Best to just accept it now.

Shouldn’t be.

I just feel the Knicks are too desperate and Ainge knows this

sol537 · Post #1417 » by **sol537** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 3:07 pm

Fournier + Obi + Grimes + 4-5 picks + 1 swap.

Come @ me and my prediction

ibraheim718 · Post #1418 » by **ibraheim718** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 3:09 pm

So now if this goes down you have only one player that is good at moving without the ball and running off of screens Fournier without Quickley and Grimes.

It'll be here it's your turn to pound the ball now give it back its my turn to pound the ball. Won't work on offense never even mind the defense.

ibraheim718 · Post #1419 » by **ibraheim718** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 3:11 pm

Every time you guys convince yourselves through heavy rationalizing that the moves this organization makes are good ones and are going to work and they never do.

DaGawd · Post #1420 » by **DaGawd** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 3:12 pm

omerome wrote:So I'm just going to say that right now, I think the Knicks need to hit pause on the deal. Just play the kids this season and then if Mitchell is still on the market at all- break, then they can potentially revisit it. I don't want to sell our guys short or cash out on them so early. Besides, what's the worst that can happen? We lose? Cool. We get additional talent.

Or we trade the pick for the 3rd year in a row