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Draft Thread #16 - UPDATE pg 75ish - Knicks inquiring about trade ups

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Last Chance! Pick Your Top 3 (for our Range)

Mikal
83
26%
Carter
34
11%
MPJr
38
12%
Sexton
9
3%
Trae
28
9%
SGA
4
1%
Miles
17
5%
Walker
17
5%
Knox
46
14%
Trade Up/Down
43
13%
 
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Re: Draft Thread #16 - Mical picks Makal picks Mikhail! (FINAL Mock on PG. 25)! 

Post#1421 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:01 pm

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I’d argue that Mikal is a + athlete right now.


ESPN said he wasn't very brolic


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Post#1422 » by Triple C » Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:01 pm

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Re: Draft Thread #16 - Mical picks Makal picks Mikhail! (FINAL Mock on PG. 25)! 

Post#1425 » by KnickLeDime » Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:02 pm

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And has shown growth in his game every season. There is no reason to think that he will suddenly stop improving/this is his peak.


I think he's going to have a really hard time improving on his weaknesses, that frame and athleticism isn't going to get any better. Doubt that hitch or the inability to make a runner will get any better either but maybe I'm wrong. Who's he going to defend at 200lb opposing wings are going to kill this guy on defense.



I’d argue that Mikal is a + athlete right now.


I think his frame is going to prevent him from finish at the rim and he'll get easily knocked off his path on drives...he's not explosive and lacks a lot of strength. Athleticism is about more than jumping high...
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Post#1427 » by Mecca » Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:03 pm

I love this song. Knicks may move up for Bamba

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Post#1428 » by NYKHardKnock » Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:03 pm

LETS **** GET MO BAMBA COME ON!!!!!!!!

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Post#1429 » by Deeeez Knicks » Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:03 pm

_NYK_ wrote:I know these are glorified scrimmages, but there's a lot to like here off the bounce and going to the basket. His length is a serious problem when extending to the rim.



He was a very good cutter and finisher in college. He didn't take many floaters/runners because he took it to the rim when he had a lane and used his length to finish.
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Re: Draft Thread #16 - Mical picks Makal picks Mikhail! (FINAL Mock on PG. 25)! 

Post#1430 » by El Poochio » Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:03 pm

_NYK_ wrote:I know these are glorified scrimmages, but there's a lot to like here off the bounce and going to the basket. His length is a serious problem when extending to the rim.



That was very refreshing seeing him outside of Nova system, what a beast
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Re: Draft Thread #16 - Mical picks Makal picks Mikhail! (FINAL Mock on PG. 25)! 

Post#1431 » by DOT » Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:04 pm

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I think, even after the ACL, KP could maybe be a serviceable defender at the 4 if he has a strong inside presence at the 5

I don't love it, but eh

Also I think Bamba has potential to be the best player from this class, so bpa over fit at that point, as long as we don't give up Frank or move future firsts unprotected
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Re: Draft Thread #16 - Mical picks Makal picks Mikhail! (FINAL Mock on PG. 25)! 

Post#1432 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:04 pm

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He'll be 22 going into next season...


And has shown growth in his game every season. There is no reason to think that he will suddenly stop improving/this is his peak.


I think he's going to have a really hard time improving on his weaknesses, that frame and athleticism isn't going to get any better. Doubt that hitch or the inability to make a runner will get any better either but maybe I'm wrong. Who's he going to defend at 200lb.


He's not an explosive athlete, but he's not a bad one by any means. As for the frame, fine, but he's at 210lbs right now. I see no reason why he can't get up to 215-220 once he gets on an NBA weight training plan.

The hitch hasn't stopped him at all in ANY scenario shooting the ball in college, nor is it even a bad hitch - he shoots the ball at the peak, which is where you want to shoot. If you want to criticize one aspect of the shot, at least go for the one that might matter, although it's unlikely - the fact that he shoots further in front of his body than you'd like. I mean, Knox was in the 44th percentile on catch and shoots but his shot looks better...Mikal was in the 94th...with "the hitch."

Knox cannot create plays for others, and while Mikal is not really a point forward either, at least he looks to pass - 20% of the time Knox looked to pass in the Pnr, and Mikal was at 43.

Inability to make a runner, ok. 65.5% at the rim in the half court, Knox was at 55% (not sure if you want him, just saying). He only went to it 2.6% of the time, unlike Knox who used it 16% of the time...but, then again, Knox had to use it because he had no touch around the rim. 62nd percentile for Knox, 93rd for Mikal.

Not sure how anyone who has watched him play is asking "who is he going to defend," but ok.
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Post#1433 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:04 pm

ill believe it when i see it... i aint gonna get my hopes up just to be disappointed. happens too many times with this team
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Post#1434 » by Mecca » Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:04 pm

If we were to get Bamba, I’d move KP+THJ for Kawhi if he agreed to extend.
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Post#1436 » by Deeeez Knicks » Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:04 pm

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Post#1437 » by Marty McFly » Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:04 pm

Mecca wrote:If we were to get Bamba, I’d move KP+THJ for Kawhi if he agreed to extend.

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Post#1438 » by BLACKFEET 2010 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:05 pm

So Trae, Porter and now Mo confirm we are confident en can trade up. Their agents wouldn’t waste their time unless it was a real possibility. Now it’s getting interesting.
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