Hot Topic - Quite Frankly; All Things Frank

[GEOLINK]

We should’ve gotten Mama Ntilikina to whoop Janis’ punk bitch ass before he left.

[Da_Mane_Man]

Man I am a little worried about the tank if dsjr plays like this. fiz started putting Frank on the best players like harden, Paul George and westbrook and he was playing them really good. Frank slowing down the other teams best player and dsjr going off could result in some wins.

And Frank pick and roll defense is technically the best in the league when he has a shotblocker behind him. now he will have two with deandre and mitch.

LOL don't worry about it man. We are not close to winning any games.

[Dantares]

Man I am a little worried about the tank if dsjr plays like this. fiz started putting Frank on the best players like harden, Paul George and westbrook and he was playing them really good. Frank slowing down the other teams best player and dsjr going off could result in some wins.

And Frank pick and roll defense is technically the best in the league when he has a shotblocker behind him. now he will have two with deandre and mitch.

LOL don't worry about it man. We are not close to winning any games.

I know we will still suck. I just don't want Cleveland and Phoenix to jump us and the with some ridiculousness we end up picking 7th.

[Dantares]

Man I am a little worried about the tank if dsjr plays like this. fiz started putting Frank on the best players like harden, Paul George and westbrook and he was playing them really good. Frank slowing down the other teams best player and dsjr going off could result in some wins.

And Frank pick and roll defense is technically the best in the league when he has a shotblocker behind him. now he will have two with deandre and mitch.

So long as we remain in the bottom 4, we each get a 14% chance, right?

True. I don't think we are at risk of falling out of the top four. But 1 seed is a guarantee of a top 5 pick.

[HarthorneWingo]

Man I am a little worried about the tank if dsjr plays like this. fiz started putting Frank on the best players like harden, Paul George and westbrook and he was playing them really good. Frank slowing down the other teams best player and dsjr going off could result in some wins.

And Frank pick and roll defense is technically the best in the league when he has a shotblocker behind him. now he will have two with deandre and mitch.

So long as we remain in the bottom 4, we each get a 14% chance, right?

True. I don't think we are at risk of falling out of the top four. But 1 seed is a guarantee of a top 5 pick.

Oh, right. That's true too, apparently. So if we end up with the fourth worst record in the league, is there a chance of us picking 8th?

[GEOLINK]

So long as we remain in the bottom 4, we each get a 14% chance, right?

True. I don't think we are at risk of falling out of the top four. But 1 seed is a guarantee of a top 5 pick.

Oh, right. That's true too, apparently. So if we end up with the fourth worst record in the league, is there a chance of us picking 8th?

No matter where we pick people are still gonna think we’re gonna fall like crazy anyway.

[Greenie]

I am shook to see even people who have ripped Frank constantly, supporting and rooting for him after they got their guy in DSJ. I am really excited for them to be on the court together. Compliment each other perfectly but they both need to improve their jumper

That’s a given

[blanko]

I said this before and i will say it again...

The more dynamic guard we sign or draft, the more frank fills a need for the knicks.

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[1999]

i expected so much this season. I was too impatient. I thought Frank would mature and catch on quick. Im going to calm down and wait to she how he turns out.

Fizdale never really gave Frank his shot. Fixdale had Frank on a short leash while Mudiay got all the love. I still believe in Frank but I'm not gonna keep banging the drum for him. The Knicks should give him a legitimate shot and then Frank has to do his part like start hitting his open 3s and to stop curling up into a turtle position when things aren't going his way. Hopefully we see movement on both sides.

Frank was getting 30 mins a game at the start of the year. He wasn’t producing nor does he look comfortable playing pg full time. We’ll see what the future holds but he’s frustrating to say the least.


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[thebuzzardman]

i expected so much this season. I was too impatient. I thought Frank would mature and catch on quick. Im going to calm down and wait to she how he turns out.

Fizdale never really gave Frank his shot. Fixdale had Frank on a short leash while Mudiay got all the love. I still believe in Frank but I'm not gonna keep banging the drum for him. The Knicks should give him a legitimate shot and then Frank has to do his part like start hitting his open 3s and to stop curling up into a turtle position when things aren't going his way. Hopefully we see movement on both sides.

Frank was getting 30 mins a game at the start of the year. He wasn’t producing nor does he look comfortable playing pg full time. We’ll see what the future holds but he’s frustrating to say the least.


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It's possible he'll just wind up sucking, but it's also possible players have different development curves, and Frank was absolutely drafted as a project. I also think Fiz's "system" does him zero favors, but whatever. There is still clearly development that needs to happen that's all from him.

That said, if Frank does struggle from "too much PG", it's pretty clear DSJr does as well - to some extent. Playing them together in a smart way would mitigate each others issue there. Usual caveats about it's long term results hinging on Frank getting a consistent jumper - at the very least.

Degree to which I have faith Fiz will play them together in such a way as to maximize their strengths and minimize weaknesses?
> 5%

[F N 11]

I said this before and i will say it again...

The more dynamic guard we sign or draft, the more frank fills a need for the knicks.

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He can focus on playing to his strengths. I can see him bringing the ball up even with DSJ on the court. That’s how much I feel DSJ likes him. Hurry tf back.

[8516knicks]

Is Frank's defense better than Knox's offense?

part 2 - Is Frank's offense better than Knox's defense?

[thebuzzardman]

Is Frank's defense better than Knox's offense?

part 2 - Is Frank's offense better than Knox's defense?

That's a tough call. I couldn't begin to say. Probably, but not by a lot?

[Blockwatcher]

Smith
Dotson
Trier
Ntilikina

can it work? can it be the starting/bench backcourt of a chip team?

[thebuzzardman]

Smith
Dotson
Trier
Ntilikina

can it work? can it be the starting/bench backcourt of a chip team?

Nope.

But there's a strong chance the team adds Kyrie and/or a SG when they draft 2-6

It is, at the least, a nice bench with depth, with one starter type - DSJr. Frank "might" be a starter IF he comes along and depending on who he's paired with.

Not sure a DSJr/Frank or DSJr/Trier is a champ backcourt, no less playoff. Obviously the rest of the roster matters though.

[CDAZ]

With Frank and Mudiay being 6'5 and up what's to stop Fiz from a line up of dsj, mudiay, and Frank? He's tinkered with the line up so much I'll be shocked if he doesn't give it to us.

[Jeff Van Gully]

Smith
Dotson
Trier
Ntilikina

can it work? can it be the starting/bench backcourt of a chip team?

Nope.

But there's a strong chance the team adds Kyrie and/or a SG when they draft 2-6

It is, at the least, a nice bench with depth, with one starter type - DSJr. Frank "might" be a starter IF he comes along and depending on who he's paired with.

Not sure a DSJr/Frank or DSJr/Trier is a champ backcourt, no less playoff. Obviously the rest of the roster matters though.

it's not a starting championship backcourt in the immediate future. that's why i'm so keen on letting some of these guys develop as reserves on a winner in the meantime. it's a fine starting backcourt for a young, developing group.

[Jeff Van Gully]

With Frank and Mudiay being 6'5 and up what's to stop Fiz from a line up of dsj, mudiay, and Frank? He's tinkered with the line up so much I'll be shocked if he doesn't give it to us.

wouldn't be shocked to see some frank batum out there.

i would love it more if positionless basketball were really applied.

[thebuzzardman]

Smith
Dotson
Trier
Ntilikina

can it work? can it be the starting/bench backcourt of a chip team?

Nope.

But there's a strong chance the team adds Kyrie and/or a SG when they draft 2-6

It is, at the least, a nice bench with depth, with one starter type - DSJr. Frank "might" be a starter IF he comes along and depending on who he's paired with.

Not sure a DSJr/Frank or DSJr/Trier is a champ backcourt, no less playoff. Obviously the rest of the roster matters though.

it's not a starting championship backcourt in the immediate future. that's why i'm so keen on letting some of these guys develop as reserves on a winner in the meantime. it's a fine starting backcourt for a young, developing group.

Exactly

[prophet_of_rage]

With Frank and Mudiay being 6'5 and up what's to stop Fiz from a line up of dsj, mudiay, and Frank? He's tinkered with the line up so much I'll be shocked if he doesn't give it to us.

He would be smart to try it. Dotson and Trier are merely okay. Nice of DSJ to put thebgame on himself but he scored 31 of our 102 points. We don't have for real scorers any more.

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