Offseason Trades and Transaction Ideas Thread

[F N 11]

CP3 already off the table. Just get Lonzo please. We need a young point. Hopefully this is all smoke screen for Lonzo. We shall see...

[Sark]

I’d rather they punt then spend on Schroder, oubre and Fournier and there off season

Agreed. We need to start using the cap space to take on bad contracts for assets.. fk free agency

We should have been doing this the moment Durant and Irving signed with Brooklyn.

We should have been doing it since 2015.

[Kampuchea]

With Randle, RJ and Fournier we will have three #2 champion level scorers to compete with Brooklyn. We could use one more championship scorer like Lonzo

[KnicksGadfly]

Fournier fits this team at 20mm aav

He’s another #2 or #3 player on a championship level team and doesn’t impede our ability to offer a 35% max or trade for one

Has ball handling skills
Scores efficiently
Can play make
Can lead

All the things we lack he does. He’s a perfect fit for the team rn before we trade for a #1


I legit cannot believe ppl think oubre derozan ball are better players or value as free agents.


Ppl will scoff at paying Fournier 20m but chase down lonzo for 15? What? So he can sit around and watch randle iso? Lonzo doesn’t do anything we actually need. Playmaking, breaking defenses, pnr, shot creation, iso, from the pg position

I don’t really see DeRozan or Oubre as anything good, but I definitely don’t see Fournier as a number 2 on a championship team. That puts him on a tier with Middleton, Paul George, Jaylen Brown, Chris Paul, Rudy Gobert, etc. Max cat territory. Championship teams generally have 2 all stars.

He’s possibly a 3…like I’d like his fit with Lebron and AD better than Westbrook, but that just speaks to how good Lebron and AD are. He can do damage when he gets his looks and people are grabbing attention. I don’t think he is on par with Jrue or Ayton or even FVV with Kawhi and Lowry. Hell, at this point, I think RJ is a 3. I’d rather get my stars first if we sign him.

As for Lonzo, he’s a souped up role player. Nice if you can get one or two stars.

[aggo]

Fournier fits this team at 20mm aav

He’s another #2 or #3 player on a championship level team

Watch on YouTube

you don't think a guy that puts up 18ppg/4 asts

can play multiple positions

shoots the 3 efficiently

can create his own shot


isn't a #3 at worst on a championship level team?

[F N 11]

Grimes is Fournier with D, pass. Lowry or Lonzo or bust..

[DOT]

Fournier fits this team at 20mm aav

He’s another #2 or #3 player on a championship level team

Watch on YouTube

you don't think a guy that puts up 18ppg/4 asts

can play multiple positions

shoots the 3 efficiently

can create his own shot


isn't a #3 at worst on a championship level team?

I don't know why you would want to spend 20 million on him when we don't have a #1

And no, he'd be a #3 at best, more like a #4 on a championship team.

[aggo]

With Randle, RJ and Fournier we will have three #2 champion level scorers to compete with Brooklyn. We could use one more championship scorer like Lonzo

Lonzo is a glorified 3D SG/SF in the playoffs.


he isn't a pg in half court because he cant playmake in iso or half court. he's not even a #3.


if we sign Lonzo, it should be so that he would change positions and replace Bullock's role.

[seren]

Fournier fits this team at 20mm aav

He’s another #2 or #3 player on a championship level team

Watch on YouTube

you don't think a guy that puts up 18ppg/4 asts

can play multiple positions

shoots the 3 efficiently

can create his own shot


isn't a #3 at worst on a championship level team?

I am all for getting him but number three on a championship level is questionable. Jrue Holiday was the third best player on Milwaukee. I don’t think he is at that level.

More like a number four to me. But that should not stop us to go after him

[seren]

Most number three options have been max players in championship team. Randle is a number three. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. We are just trying to find starter level players to complement our youth right now

[knickstape21]

4/80 for Fournier is disgusting, I’m sorry..

[DaGawd]

Fournier fits this team at 20mm aav

He’s another #2 or #3 player on a championship level team and doesn’t impede our ability to offer a 35% max or trade for one

Has ball handling skills
Scores efficiently
Can play make
Can lead

All the things we lack he does. He’s a perfect fit for the team rn before we trade for a #1


I legit cannot believe ppl think oubre derozan ball are better players or value as free agents.


Ppl will scoff at paying Fournier 20m but chase down lonzo for 15? What? So he can sit around and watch randle iso? Lonzo doesn’t do anything we actually need. Playmaking, breaking defenses, pnr, shot creation, iso, from the pg position

I’d take Derozan over Fournier for that same money 11/10..

[stuporman]

The Knicks FO has been trending more frugal in FA over the past few years with the Rose Co. group last off season being downright stingy so I don't expect them to be the old Knicks model of bidding against themselves and overpaying for mediocrity.

They have some goodwill with agents for the little things they have been doing in getting players extra money. If guys like Noel, Bullock and Burks get bigger offers now because of their contributions to the Knicks success it also gives the Knicks franchise a rep for potentially helping player's careers.

So the Knicks FO will express interest with alot of players and shoot their modest offers with the added incentive of being a part of the Knicks changing culture and success in one of the most visible markets in the league. This may entice some player to take the lesser offer for the other benefits.

Or if those players don't get the longer big offers they want there will be the option of the Knicks on a shorter contract to leverage more longer term money in a year or two. This also plays into the plan for the Knicks to keep cap flexibility while adding talent at below market value.

So I suspect the Knicks will not overpay in a bidding war for players that aren't stars if it means that the financial situation the Knicks FOs have worked hard to create gets damaged. They may not get their top targets but they will get someone that fits the system and culture on a great deal.

If they do sign someone to a longer deal it could still will be one that has great value for the talent level and will also be something that can be moved in a trade down the road for potentially a 'star' in along with the pick cache they have built up.

This is just my speculation and I hope this is their strategy because I don't want to see them waste this opportunity on overpaying for less than star players so saddle themselves with mediocrity and have the Knicks become a treadmill 2nd round exit team for years.

[aggo]

Fournier fits this team at 20mm aav

He’s another #2 or #3 player on a championship level team and doesn’t impede our ability to offer a 35% max or trade for one

Has ball handling skills
Scores efficiently
Can play make
Can lead

All the things we lack he does. He’s a perfect fit for the team rn before we trade for a #1


I legit cannot believe ppl think oubre derozan ball are better players or value as free agents.


Ppl will scoff at paying Fournier 20m but chase down lonzo for 15? What? So he can sit around and watch randle iso? Lonzo doesn’t do anything we actually need. Playmaking, breaking defenses, pnr, shot creation, iso, from the pg position

I’d take Derozan over Fournier for that same money 11/10..

DeRozan isn't a winning player at SGSF anymore

hes either a backup PG
or a PF

[aggo]

The Knicks FO has been trending more frugal in FA over the past few years with the Rose Co. group last off season being downright stingy so I don't expect them to be the old Knicks model of bidding against themselves and overpaying for mediocrity.

They have some goodwill with agents for the little things they have been doing in getting players extra money. If guys like Noel, Bullock and Burks get bigger offers now because of their contributions to the Knicks success it also gives the Knicks franchise a rep for potentially helping player's careers.

So the Knicks FO will express interest with alot of players and shoot their modest offers with the added incentive of being a part of the Knicks changing culture and success in one of the most visible markets in the league. This may entice some player to take the lesser offer for the other benefits.

Or if those players don't get the longer big offers they want there will be the option of the Knicks on a shorter contract to leverage more longer term money in a year or two. This also plays into the plan for the Knicks to keep cap flexibility while adding talent at below market value.

So I suspect the Knicks will not overpay in a bidding war for players that aren't stars if it means that the financial situation the Knicks FOs have worked hard to create gets damaged. They may not get their top targets but they will get someone that fits the system and culture on a great deal.

If they do sign someone to a longer deal it could still will be one that has great value for the talent level and will also be something that can be moved in a trade for potentially a 'star' in addition to the pick cache they have built up down the road.

This is just my speculation and I hope this is their strategy because I don't want to see them waste this opportunity on overpaying for less than star players so saddle themselves with mediocrity and have the Knicks become a treadmill 2nd round exit team for years.

the difference is that the improvement in RJ and Randle and the subsequent contracts they will receive necessitate spending money now.


the FO can not want anymore because RJ's RFA max is coming and his salary will occupy a significant portion of the cap. Randle's new contract will also be a significant pay raise.


the only way to ensure that the cap is managed correctly is to spend it all before we give Randle and RJ extensions.

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[thebuzzardman]

Grimes is Fournier with D, pass. Lowry or Lonzo or bust..

Lowry too old and expensive, Lonzo not multidimensional enough and will be too expensive. Hate both ideas.

[thebuzzardman]

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Love it. Let him darken our cap room no longer.

[8516knicks]

CP3 already off the table. Just get Lonzo please. We need a young point. Hopefully this is all smoke screen for Lonzo. We shall see...

At this point he's far preferable to other names being bandied about for PG (Dinwidee, Shroeder, Fournier) but I'd also like the lakers' THT. And/or Josh Hart as an inexpensive yet young piece. And if they're spending anything, DeRozan on a 2 year deal (last year team option) would be fine teamed with Lonzo.

[thebuzzardman]

Fournier fits this team at 20mm aav

He’s another #2 or #3 player on a championship level team and doesn’t impede our ability to offer a 35% max or trade for one

Has ball handling skills
Scores efficiently
Can play make
Can lead

All the things we lack he does. He’s a perfect fit for the team rn before we trade for a #1


I legit cannot believe ppl think oubre derozan ball are better players or value as free agents.


Ppl will scoff at paying Fournier 20m but chase down lonzo for 15? What? So he can sit around and watch randle iso? Lonzo doesn’t do anything we actually need. Playmaking, breaking defenses, pnr, shot creation, iso, from the pg position

I’d take Derozan over Fournier for that same money 11/10..

DeRozan isn't a winning player at SGSF anymore

hes either a backup PG
or a PF

Say no to Fournier. His male pattern baldness offends.