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Post#1421 » by F N 11 » Mon Aug 2, 2021 12:55 pm

god shammgod wrote:guys don't agree to 1 year deals on day 1. you gotta wait to see who falls through the cracks to sign guys to 1 year deals. they're giving multiple years to schroder and fournier.

3 years Randle contract for Shroeder so he can possibly be a free agent at age 29.
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Post#1422 » by Blue_Orange » Mon Aug 2, 2021 12:55 pm

Would prefer Sexton over Schroeder like most, but let's not forget one will cost us in a trade, and will probably cost more then what everyone is speculating (Obi and a ton off picks or they may not even be interested unless it's RJ). I would hope Schroeder would just be a short term prove it deal (1+1?) if his market dried up and he is still looking for 20M per year. Would not be happy with a long term Schroeder deal though.
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Post#1423 » by F N 11 » Mon Aug 2, 2021 12:56 pm

2010 wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Everyone is jumping on this rumor now

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These dudes running the independent landscape and they seriously have no leads on this? Just parroting the same rumors we’re reacting to?

Well damn…

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Post#1424 » by god shammgod » Mon Aug 2, 2021 12:56 pm

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god shammgod wrote:guys don't agree to 1 year deals on day 1. you gotta wait to see who falls through the cracks to sign guys to 1 year deals. they're giving multiple years to schroder and fournier.

3 years Randle contract for Shroeder so he can possibly be a free agent at age 29.


he'll be 28 in september
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Post#1425 » by DaGawd » Mon Aug 2, 2021 12:57 pm

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SARGO127 wrote:But still; trading 19 for more cap just to sign Dennis and Fournier is so weak man

Good point but maybe we have eyes on saving money to bring a guy like Rose back.

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Post#1426 » by F N 11 » Mon Aug 2, 2021 12:57 pm

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SARGO127 wrote:But still; trading 19 for more cap just to sign Dennis and Fournier is so weak man

Good point but maybe we have eyes on saving money to bring a guy like Rose back.



Idk, can’t they go over the cap to bring back Rose?

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Post#1427 » by Oscirus » Mon Aug 2, 2021 12:58 pm

yall want one year contracts you can maybe get monk and winslow if we follow the same strategy enacted by perry in year 1, but other than that, I doubt we're getting any free agents ( including our own) for that cheap
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Post#1428 » by F N 11 » Mon Aug 2, 2021 12:58 pm

god shammgod wrote:
F N 11 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:guys don't agree to 1 year deals on day 1. you gotta wait to see who falls through the cracks to sign guys to 1 year deals. they're giving multiple years to schroder and fournier.

3 years Randle contract for Shroeder so he can possibly be a free agent at age 29.


he'll be 28 in september

Same ****, hell give us his best ball to get that second half of prime solid deal.
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Post#1429 » by Deeeez Knicks » Mon Aug 2, 2021 12:59 pm

god shammgod wrote:
2010 wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Everyone is jumping on this rumor now

Read on Twitter


These dudes running the independent landscape and they seriously have no leads on this? Just parroting the same rumors we’re reacting to?

Well damn…


yup. my guy just repeats what other people already said and says "i heard that too". every time. :lol:
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Post#1430 » by stuporman » Mon Aug 2, 2021 12:59 pm

When the Knicks signed Randle there was a general consensus it was an ok deal apart from the opinion of his contribution to winning because that was in question.

After one year there was a general consensus it was a terrible deal which included the opinion his contribution to losing was without question.

After the past year there is a general consensus that it's a great deal which may include the opinion his contribution to playoff winning is back in question.

So in conclusion....stfu and gtfo with the snap judgment prisoner of the moment hot takes...sure, you are welcome to have them but I'm not obligated to respect them just because you have them.
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Post#1431 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon Aug 2, 2021 1:01 pm

Knicks gonna have the bench of my BAF team with Schroder, Hart and Randle
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Post#1432 » by robillionaire » Mon Aug 2, 2021 1:01 pm

god shammgod wrote:guys don't agree to 1 year deals on day 1. you gotta wait to see who falls through the cracks to sign guys to 1 year deals. they're giving multiple years to schroder and fournier.


Not with us, when we signed all those 1+1 deals two years ago (payton, gibson, bullock, Portis, ellington, whoever else I’m forgetting) it was almost immediately after free agency started
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Post#1433 » by SARGO127 » Mon Aug 2, 2021 1:02 pm

stuporman wrote:When the Knicks signed Randle there was a general consensus it was an ok deal apart from the opinion of his contribution to winning because that was in question.

After one year there was a general consensus it was a terrible deal which included the opinion his contribution to losing was without question.

After the past year there is a general consensus that it's a great deal which most have the opinion he contributes to winning.

So in conclusion....stfu and gtfo with the snap judgment prisoner of the moment hot takes...sure, you are welcome to have them but I'm not obligated to respect them just because you have them.


Maybe so. Randle was 24 when we signed him and had not played full seasons in the league. We need to be looking at young guys like this who have a chance to outplay their contract. Guys like: THT, Trent Jr, Monk, Lauri, Lonzo, Oubre.
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Post#1434 » by god shammgod » Mon Aug 2, 2021 1:02 pm

F N 11 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
F N 11 wrote:3 years Randle contract for Shroeder so he can possibly be a free agent at age 29.


he'll be 28 in september

Same ****, hell give us his best ball to get that second half of prime solid deal.


are you falling for the okey doke again ? c'mon man. why do you let them do this to you ? :lol:
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Post#1435 » by aq_ua » Mon Aug 2, 2021 1:02 pm

stuporman wrote:When the Knicks signed Randle there was a general consensus it was an ok deal apart from the opinion of his contribution to winning because that was in question.

After one year there was a general consensus it was a terrible deal which included the opinion his contribution to losing was without question.

After the past year there is a general consensus that it's a great deal which most have the opinion he contributes to winning.

So in conclusion....stfu and gtfo with the snap judgment prisoner of the moment hot takes...sure, you are welcome to have them but I'm not obligated to respect them just because you have them.

I’m going to disagree and say the consensus on Randle day one was that it was a desperate move and not at all
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Post#1436 » by Oscirus » Mon Aug 2, 2021 1:03 pm

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god shammgod wrote:guys don't agree to 1 year deals on day 1. you gotta wait to see who falls through the cracks to sign guys to 1 year deals. they're giving multiple years to schroder and fournier.


Not with us, when we signed all those 1+1 deals two years ago (payton, gibson, bullock, Portis, ellington, whoever else I’m forgetting) it was almost immediately after free agency started

thats cuz they all got paid twice what they were worth. Knicks arent doing that anymore
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Post#1437 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Aug 2, 2021 1:03 pm

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That is mediocrity at its finest!!!!!!!!


Again, I get a kick out of some of you.

I wouldn't want to max out the team with those guys, but each one is probably a better player than anyone the Knicks have on the team now, and had on the team last year, besides Randle.

So, and this hurts some, but:
Fournier, Oubre > RJ.
RJ is cheaper. RJ is way younger. RJ will get better. But right now, those guys are objectively better. Shocking, I know.

Duncan Robinson a tougher case. He's a good shooter. I don't think he's an overall better player than Bullocks or RJ.

Scroeder probably better than Rose is at this point, based on his ability to go out and play 32 mpg.
However, Rose cost DSJr and the rest of 7 or 10 million, while Schroeder is going to get 20 million somewhere.

Funny how this mediocrity at it's finest is actually better than the mediocrity the Knicks rolled out each game last year.

Again, I'm not advocating for these players, but I swear, there is almost no one good enough for a lot of posters.



Punt for next year, like we did with the 19th pick


I guess that's an option. It's one of the paths. All in for star or 1 year deals.
I've got my own issues with 1 year deals.
I think the FO did a pretty solid job getting the right players (wings of some ability and a backup C) on good cheap deals. I worry that well can run dry/not work out.
It's part of the reason I got so sold on a potential Sexton deal, where he'd solve PG, only cost 6 million, and then the Knicks could pursue a max cat either this offseason or next.

I don't have any answers, just opinions. Even those aren't better or more right.
Another way is going younger good players and dropping some $ on Ball, THT or even Trent Jr and HOPE someone can be dealt away if someone "big time" is available. Another kind of risk. At least the team would be young and better, if not great. Pros and cons here.

Meanwhile after all these keystroke, we'll be begging for TJ McConnell to hold down PG after the Knicks whiff on everything. :D
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Post#1438 » by aq_ua » Mon Aug 2, 2021 1:04 pm

robillionaire wrote:
god shammgod wrote:guys don't agree to 1 year deals on day 1. you gotta wait to see who falls through the cracks to sign guys to 1 year deals. they're giving multiple years to schroder and fournier.


Not with us, when we signed all those 1+1 deals two years ago (payton, gibson, bullock, Portis, ellington, whoever else I’m forgetting) it was almost immediately after free agency started

Most teams have a plan A through F they have to go through. Our plan is literally just A or F, and A never seems to work out, so we can quickly transition to Plan F.
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Post#1439 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Aug 2, 2021 1:06 pm

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This can’t be serious!!!!

Just wow man!!!!!!


Knicks have been known to leak to Woj.
He's CAA and broke stuff before.

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Post#1440 » by F N 11 » Mon Aug 2, 2021 1:06 pm

god shammgod wrote:
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he'll be 28 in september

Same ****, hell give us his best ball to get that second half of prime solid deal.


are you falling for the okey doke again ? c'mon man. why do you let them do this to you ? :lol:

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