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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#1421 » by finestrg » Yesterday 5:48 pm

So not really a trade/transaction idea, more of a help from within idea --

Haven't looked good the last 3 games. A lot of different problems we're seeing (the going ice cold offensively for long stretches, poor D, Hart not himself) -- another problem is Yabusele and Clarkson not playing well. Yabu a bit better last night (all net on that 1st elbow 3, had that nice block) but still not himself for some reason. I don't think it's conditioning (Steph Bondy was just on Knicks Fan TV and said Yabu looks shredded with his shirt off in the locker room - i think he just has a weird body type for a guy. plus I've seen videos on YouTube where I know he took working out seriously in the off-season), I just think he's having a hard time fitting in and adjusting. Clarkson, meanwhile, has looked terrible to me. Over-dribbles himself into trouble, coughing the ball up, then the poor shot-selection plus he's not efficient anyway, more of a volume guy and now he's not getting the same amount of mins he's accustomed to. just looks like a mess...

Maybe we give Yabu a little longer leash to get himself right (esp hearing he sprained his knee recently), but with Clarkson, I'm ready to turn the page already to be honest.

Was thinking this --

If Yabu continues to struggle, I'd wouldn't mind seeing Brown give his mins to Diawara. I know he's a deep 2nd round pick rookie you wouldn't think would get mins on a win-now team like the Knicks, but I just feel like the kid's got good size/length, he's got some offensive skill, and i think we might, at the least, see an uptick in motor/effort/energy level over Yabusele. Willing to give Yabu a little more time to find it, but if not, I think this adjustment could help us.

2nd adjustment (looking like more of a no-brainer to me) -- bench Clarkson (we have Deuce/Shamet/Hart to cover his spot anyway) and give his mins to Kevin McCullar Jr. Two-way guy which entitles him to play in about half the regular season games, the rest in the GL, and no playoffs. I actually wouldn't mind turning the page on Clarkson now and releasing him and then signing McCullar to a standard contract. Feel like he's got good all-around skills and at 24 years old, he's ready for NBA game action.

Question -- do we even have any maneuverability to cut Clarkson and sign McCullar to a standard deal, or would that take us into the tax apron? And if it did, do we say **** it, so what, we're a win-now team, let's do it anyway? Or, at the very least, do we give give McCullar time as a two-way and cross that bridge a little later down the road?

This isn't trading for Giannis obviously, I get that, but two moves I feel could ignite us.

Let me know some thoughts - thanks!
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#1422 » by Capn'O » Yesterday 6:17 pm

Sooooo.... Mike Malone?
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#1423 » by Spree2Houston » Yesterday 7:35 pm

finestrg wrote:So not really a trade/transaction idea, more of a help from within idea --

Haven't looked good the last 3 games. A lot of different problems we're seeing (the going ice cold offensively for long stretches, poor D, Hart not himself) -- another problem is Yabusele and Clarkson not playing well. Yabu a bit better last night (all net on that 1st elbow 3, had that nice block) but still not himself for some reason. I don't think it's conditioning (Steph Bondy was just on Knicks Fan TV and said Yabu looks shredded with his shirt off in the locker room - i think he just has a weird body type for a guy. plus I've seen videos on YouTube where I know he took working out seriously in the off-season), I just think he's having a hard time fitting in and adjusting. Clarkson, meanwhile, has looked terrible to me. Over-dribbles himself into trouble, coughing the ball up, then the poor shot-selection plus he's not efficient anyway, more of a volume guy and now he's not getting the same amount of mins he's accustomed to. just looks like a mess...

Maybe we give Yabu a little longer leash to get himself right (esp hearing he sprained his knee recently), but with Clarkson, I'm ready to turn the page already to be honest.

Was thinking this --

If Yabu continues to struggle, I'd wouldn't mind seeing Brown give his mins to Diawara. I know he's a deep 2nd round pick rookie you wouldn't think would get mins on a win-now team like the Knicks, but I just feel like the kid's got good size/length, he's got some offensive skill, and i think we might, at the least, see an uptick in motor/effort/energy level over Yabusele. Willing to give Yabu a little more time to find it, but if not, I think this adjustment could help us.

2nd adjustment (looking like more of a no-brainer to me) -- bench Clarkson (we have Deuce/Shamet/Hart to cover his spot anyway) and give his mins to Kevin McCullar Jr. Two-way guy which entitles him to play in about half the regular season games, the rest in the GL, and no playoffs. I actually wouldn't mind turning the page on Clarkson now and releasing him and then signing McCullar to a standard contract. Feel like he's got good all-around skills and at 24 years old, he's ready for NBA game action.

Question -- do we even have any maneuverability to cut Clarkson and sign McCullar to a standard deal, or would that take us into the tax apron? And if it did, do we say **** it, so what, we're a win-now team, let's do it anyway? Or, at the very least, do we give give McCullar time as a two-way and cross that bridge a little later down the road?

This isn't trading for Giannis obviously, I get that, but two moves I feel could ignite us.

Let me know some thoughts - thanks!



I thought about the same thing. Give Diawara, McCullar, and even Dadiet playing time. Yabu and Clarkson looking like bust signings.
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Post#1424 » by finestrg » Yesterday 7:58 pm

Spree2Houston wrote:
finestrg wrote:So not really a trade/transaction idea, more of a help from within idea --

Haven't looked good the last 3 games. A lot of different problems we're seeing (the going ice cold offensively for long stretches, poor D, Hart not himself) -- another problem is Yabusele and Clarkson not playing well. Yabu a bit better last night (all net on that 1st elbow 3, had that nice block) but still not himself for some reason. I don't think it's conditioning (Steph Bondy was just on Knicks Fan TV and said Yabu looks shredded with his shirt off in the locker room - i think he just has a weird body type for a guy. plus I've seen videos on YouTube where I know he took working out seriously in the off-season), I just think he's having a hard time fitting in and adjusting. Clarkson, meanwhile, has looked terrible to me. Over-dribbles himself into trouble, coughing the ball up, then the poor shot-selection plus he's not efficient anyway, more of a volume guy and now he's not getting the same amount of mins he's accustomed to. just looks like a mess...

Maybe we give Yabu a little longer leash to get himself right (esp hearing he sprained his knee recently), but with Clarkson, I'm ready to turn the page already to be honest.

Was thinking this --

If Yabu continues to struggle, I'd wouldn't mind seeing Brown give his mins to Diawara. I know he's a deep 2nd round pick rookie you wouldn't think would get mins on a win-now team like the Knicks, but I just feel like the kid's got good size/length, he's got some offensive skill, and i think we might, at the least, see an uptick in motor/effort/energy level over Yabusele. Willing to give Yabu a little more time to find it, but if not, I think this adjustment could help us.

2nd adjustment (looking like more of a no-brainer to me) -- bench Clarkson (we have Deuce/Shamet/Hart to cover his spot anyway) and give his mins to Kevin McCullar Jr. Two-way guy which entitles him to play in about half the regular season games, the rest in the GL, and no playoffs. I actually wouldn't mind turning the page on Clarkson now and releasing him and then signing McCullar to a standard contract. Feel like he's got good all-around skills and at 24 years old, he's ready for NBA game action.

Question -- do we even have any maneuverability to cut Clarkson and sign McCullar to a standard deal, or would that take us into the tax apron? And if it did, do we say **** it, so what, we're a win-now team, let's do it anyway? Or, at the very least, do we give give McCullar time as a two-way and cross that bridge a little later down the road?

This isn't trading for Giannis obviously, I get that, but two moves I feel could ignite us.

Let me know some thoughts - thanks!



I thought about the same thing. Give Diawara, McCullar, and even Dadiet playing time. Yabu and Clarkson looking like bust signings.


Just feel with Tatum and Hailiburton out, we need to capitalize this season. No wasted games. Can't afford to lose games early on. Every game matters when it comes to eventual playoff seeding. We've been told to be patient but we're looking to win it all this year, not interested in being patient. I'm looking to win every game we can starting RIGHT NOW!!! Give Diawara and McCullar a serious look!! I think we'd be glad we did.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#1425 » by god shammgod » Yesterday 8:01 pm

Capn'O wrote:Sooooo.... Mike Malone?


makes sense in the van gundy after nelson kind of way. similar to thibs. from the same coaching tree. pretty sure they were assistants here together. a return to a version of what worked.

"Don Nelson was fired by the New York Knicks in March 1996, after less than one season as head coach. His dismissal was due to a clash between his fast-paced, offensive-minded "Nelly Ball" style and the team's established, gritty, defensive-first culture, as well as his attempt to trade star player Patrick Ewing for Shaquille O'Neal. The team was not playing well, and players and management felt a change was needed"

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Post#1426 » by Jalen Bluntson » Yesterday 8:06 pm

god shammgod wrote:
Capn'O wrote:Sooooo.... Mike Malone?


makes sense in the van gundy after nelson kind of way. similar to thibs. from the same coaching tree. pretty sure they were assistants here together. a return to a version of what worked.

"Don Nelson was fired by the New York Knicks in March 1996, after less than one season as head coach. His dismissal was due to a clash between his fast-paced, offensive-minded "Nelly Ball" style and the team's established, gritty, defensive-first culture, as well as his attempt to trade star player Patrick Ewing for Shaquille O'Neal. The team was not playing well, and players and management felt a change was needed"



Imagine if that trade happened!
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Post#1427 » by Fat » Yesterday 10:02 pm

Perfect opportunity to get ja morant it’s just as good as getting Giannis!

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Post#1428 » by god shammgod » Yesterday 10:29 pm

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
Capn'O wrote:Sooooo.... Mike Malone?


makes sense in the van gundy after nelson kind of way. similar to thibs. from the same coaching tree. pretty sure they were assistants here together. a return to a version of what worked.

"Don Nelson was fired by the New York Knicks in March 1996, after less than one season as head coach. His dismissal was due to a clash between his fast-paced, offensive-minded "Nelly Ball" style and the team's established, gritty, defensive-first culture, as well as his attempt to trade star player Patrick Ewing for Shaquille O'Neal. The team was not playing well, and players and management felt a change was needed"



Imagine if that trade happened!


i don't think there was ever actually a chance of it happening
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Post#1429 » by Capn'O » Yesterday 11:02 pm

god shammgod wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
makes sense in the van gundy after nelson kind of way. similar to thibs. from the same coaching tree. pretty sure they were assistants here together. a return to a version of what worked.

"Don Nelson was fired by the New York Knicks in March 1996, after less than one season as head coach. His dismissal was due to a clash between his fast-paced, offensive-minded "Nelly Ball" style and the team's established, gritty, defensive-first culture, as well as his attempt to trade star player Patrick Ewing for Shaquille O'Neal. The team was not playing well, and players and management felt a change was needed"



Imagine if that trade happened!


i don't think there was ever actually a chance of it happening


Apparently the idea was to trade Ewing and then pursue Shaq in free agency in the summer of 1996.

So, like you said, absolute lululand.



And yeah, you hit the nail on the head for why I was thinking Malone.
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Post#1430 » by god shammgod » Yesterday 11:25 pm

Capn'O wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
Imagine if that trade happened!


i don't think there was ever actually a chance of it happening


Apparently the idea was to trade Ewing and then pursue Shaq in free agency in the summer of 1996.

So, like you said, absolute lululand.



And yeah, you hit the nail on the head for why I was thinking Malone.


i wonder if dolan will let them hire another expensive coach. brown got 4 years. thibs got years left on his deal too. van gundy was an assistant and could be hired for cheap. they might have to hire someone off someone's bench who will take a 2 year deal. and they have to get it right because unless they win it all, they aint gonna get to hire a fourth coach.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#1431 » by 8516knicks » Today 1:29 am

Fat wrote:Perfect opportunity to get ja morant it’s just as good as getting Giannis!

Brunson | McBride
Morant | Clarkson
Mikal | Hart
OG | yabu
Mitchell | Landale


Just un-Yabu that and I'd go for it.
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Post#1432 » by 8516knicks » Today 1:32 am

Guerschon Yabusele from New York Knicks

Yabusele recently signed a contract and, as a result, he cannot be traded until Dec 15, 2025.

BUT...after that...

Yabu for DD?! :wink:
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Post#1433 » by GettinitDone » Today 3:45 am

F all these guys ! We don't need anyone... but Donte !!

The whole team seemingly just has to put a lot of effort in just getting a shot up... let alone making. There's a lot of value sometimes in someone getting shots off quickly without the WHOLE team having to work together like hell to make it happen. And Donte can create his own shots too (39 pts in G7 vs Pacers).

When you KNOW someone on your team can get off and knock down shots easily, it affects the entire team's confidence too like suddenly they feel they can't miss.

We can't count on ROLE PLAYER snipers like Shamet or even Garrison (if we somehow call him back), we need STARTER quality snipers like Donte.

Donte is also feisty and physical, he brings the fire the whole team is lacking !!

He also defends better than Shamet and... Hart !

We somehow get Donte, fully healthy, we're sure tickets to the Finals and win the championship imo !!
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Post#1434 » by Fat » Today 3:50 am

Cameron Payne was more important than we thought he was the energy the team needed whether he played or not! It’s not to late to fix things bring Payne back
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#1435 » by Richard4444 » Today 4:02 am

8516knicks wrote:Guerschon Yabusele from New York Knicks

Yabusele recently signed a contract and, as a result, he cannot be traded until Dec 15, 2025.

BUT...after that...

Yabu for DD?! :wink:


Yabu makes 5M, Donte 12M. We can't get more money in a trade.

Edit: Besides, Donte is starting for the Wolves. They will not trade Donte without great compensation.
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Post#1436 » by aq_ua » Today 6:26 am

god shammgod wrote:
Capn'O wrote:Sooooo.... Mike Malone?


makes sense in the van gundy after nelson kind of way. similar to thibs. from the same coaching tree. pretty sure they were assistants here together. a return to a version of what worked.

"Don Nelson was fired by the New York Knicks in March 1996, after less than one season as head coach. His dismissal was due to a clash between his fast-paced, offensive-minded "Nelly Ball" style and the team's established, gritty, defensive-first culture, as well as his attempt to trade star player Patrick Ewing for Shaquille O'Neal. The team was not playing well, and players and management felt a change was needed"


Don Nelson really unlocked Anthony Mason and generated enough trade value to get LJ. Maybe Mike Brown’s purpose is to help turn Mikal into something more valuable?
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#1437 » by NiceLikeChrist » Today 7:16 am

We haven’t had length and athleticism on this team as long as I’ve been alive

What super athletes have we had in the last decade? James flight white? :lol:

Can we stop getting guards under 6’4 and start getting some long athletic wings with good motors. And how about we sign someone specifically known for shooting. Like hitting 3s is their THING.
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