The Official Rap/Hip Hop Thread

atribecalledrch · Post #1441 » by **atribecalledrch** » Thu Jan 6, 2011 1:04 pm

Is it me or does Wiz Khalifa sound alot like Too Short?

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #1442 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Thu Jan 6, 2011 11:52 pm

Two songs came out yesterday by artists that I know next to nothing about - Pac Div and JD Era

Does anyone know any good songs by them?

god shammgod · Post #1443 » by **god shammgod** » Thu Jan 6, 2011 11:56 pm

ManualRam wrote:
barnett114 wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YTSgb5H7-I&feature=sub[/youtube]

victory lap =
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfkgPgzNvOc[/youtube]

this album is my most anticipated for 2011. i wonder if ghost doom will ever come out ?

Post #1444 » by **Manhattan Project** » Thu Jan 6, 2011 11:59 pm

Knicks1214 wrote:Two songs came out yesterday by artists that I know next to nothing about - Pac Div and JD Era

Does anyone know any good songs by them?

Pac Div, some consider this one of the better mixtapes of the year
http://www.2dopeboyz.com/2010/04/27/pac ... t-mixtape/

JD Era, another mixtape that some really like
http://www.2dopeboyz.com/2010/02/24/jd- ... n-mixtape/

Post #1445 » by **kane2021** » Fri Jan 7, 2011 12:13 am

Hip Hop has really changed. It seems the audience has changed and there are things that were not acceptable in the beginning that seem to be acceptable now. It has grown out of the projects and is now in middle and upper class American homes and being accepted. And this new audience seems to look down on its original form. Its lost its meaning. Its purpose.

barnett114 · Post #1446 » by **barnett114** » Fri Jan 7, 2011 12:58 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKrxuX5yXx0[/youtube]

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #1447 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Fri Jan 7, 2011 1:07 am

Thanks a lot MP. Downloaded Pac Div and started listening...not bad so far. Downloading JD's now.

Post #1448 » by **j4remi** » Fri Jan 7, 2011 2:04 am

kane2021 wrote:Hip Hop has really changed. It seems the audience has changed and there are things that were not acceptable in the beginning that seem to be acceptable now. It has grown out of the projects and is now in middle and upper class American homes and being accepted. And this new audience seems to look down on its original form. Its lost its meaning. Its purpose.

Perhaps some further exposition would help spark further discussion...though I have a good idea I understand what you're saying, but I'm not sure about the "audience seems to look down on its original form" part.

Post #1449 » by **Manhattan Project** » Fri Jan 7, 2011 2:05 am

What Kane is saying...

Post #1450 » by **j4remi** » Fri Jan 7, 2011 2:13 am

Manhattan Project wrote:What Kane is saying...

Yeah I got a similar feeling, basically

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC1psGZXZlw[/youtube]

And that's why I like Mixtapes more than 90% of the albums released these days.

Post #1451 » by **Manhattan Project** » Fri Jan 7, 2011 2:18 am

Yeah exactly. You can see this when Common, Talib, Skillz etc and so many other rappers proclaimed that Rap is Dead before Nas actually got the spotlight on it. Now a days some of the people just come off as bitter to people, how many young people actually take KRS serious anymore? Hell more people know him now as the dude who took the L vs Nelly...

atribecalledrch · Post #1452 » by **atribecalledrch** » Fri Jan 7, 2011 3:09 am

kane2021 wrote:Hip Hop has really changed. It seems the audience has changed and there are things that were not acceptable in the beginning that seem to be acceptable now. It has grown out of the projects and is now in middle and upper class American homes and being accepted. And this new audience seems to look down on its original form. Its lost its meaning. Its purpose.

And thats why I stick to my Dancehall because middle class white people cant understand it and if they did they'd faint lol While this new garbage is coming I spend my days downloading the artist and songs I didn't pay as much attention to before. I couldn't beliee I went so long without listening to stuff like OB4CL.

ManualRam · Post #1453 » by **ManualRam** » Fri Jan 7, 2011 3:26 am

who cares who the new audience is or if they appreciate what you like?
there is no meaning to hip-hop. the purpose is to entertain.
not every rapper in the earlier stages of hip-hop was out to educate or to shed light on what's going on in the urban communities.
if you wanna go way back to the infant stages, hip-hop was about partying. so in that aspect, today's hip-hop is VERY similar to its "original form."

there are still artists out there creating what us "boom-bap dinosaurs" fell in love with. you just have to look harder to find it.

barnett114 · Post #1454 » by **barnett114** » Fri Jan 7, 2011 3:27 am

ManualRam wrote:who cares who the new audience is or if they appreciate what you like?
there is no meaning to hip-hop. the purpose is to entertain.
not every rapper in the earlier stages of hip-hop was out to educate or to shed light on what's going on in the urban communities.
if you wanna go way back to the infant stages, hip-hop was about partying. so in that aspect, today's hip-hop is VERY similar to its "original form."

there are still artists out there creating what us "boom-bap dinosaurs" fell in love with. you just have to look harder to find it.

Today's **** is terrible.

ManualRam · Post #1455 » by **ManualRam** » Fri Jan 7, 2011 3:35 am

barnett114 wrote:
ManualRam wrote:who cares who the new audience is or if they appreciate what you like?
there is no meaning to hip-hop. the purpose is to entertain.
not every rapper in the earlier stages of hip-hop was out to educate or to shed light on what's going on in the urban communities.
if you wanna go way back to the infant stages, hip-hop was about partying. so in that aspect, today's hip-hop is VERY similar to its "original form."

there are still artists out there creating what us "boom-bap dinosaurs" fell in love with. you just have to look harder to find it.

Today's **** is terrible.

not all of it. heads are just too lazy to find good music. its out there though. its just not as visible as it once was.

barnett114 · Post #1456 » by **barnett114** » Fri Jan 7, 2011 3:38 am

Mainstream Rap is about everything but the music.Your appearance, the intoxicants you put in your body and etc.

Post #1457 » by **j4remi** » Fri Jan 7, 2011 3:45 am

barnett114 wrote:Mainstream Rap is about everything but the music.Your appearance, the intoxicants you put in your body and etc.

I think that's a good clear thesis for the key fundamental difference between today's mainstream and the "original forms" of hip hop. Even though the birth stage hip hop was about partying, it was always about the music...nowadays it really is about everything but.

To get back to the lyricism, you have to be an underground head.
To look for hip hop as a teaching source, you have to search even in the underground.
To find hip hop that isn't so obsessed with hooks and image, you can't bother with the radio.

But if we're being honest, corporate America has been controlling hip hop longer than most care to admit and we don't have any control over it. We really just come off as haters to most when we complain about the state of hip hop, just like the artists who do the same when labels don't support them (for example, Method Man).

ManualRam · Post #1458 » by **ManualRam** » Fri Jan 7, 2011 3:46 am

barnett114 wrote:Mainstream Rap is about everything but the music.Your appearance, the intoxicants you put in your body and etc.

then dont listen to it.
you know what mainstream rap was when i was a kid?
mc hammer, vanilla ice and tone loc. otherwise, mainstream rap didnt even really exist.

what is so different from the content you described and say slick rick or BDK's in their hay day?
dre and snoop circa chronic?

Post #1459 » by **Manhattan Project** » Fri Jan 7, 2011 3:48 am

However like ManualRam said, you can find any music you want these days, all you got to do is look. I know from personal experience that I probably learned of at least 20 dope rappers from him, from the media lounge board.

barnett114 · Post #1460 » by **barnett114** » Fri Jan 7, 2011 3:50 am

ManualRam wrote:
barnett114 wrote:Mainstream Rap is about everything but the music.Your appearance, the intoxicants you put in your body and etc.

then dont listen to it.

I don't

ManualRam wrote:you know what mainstream rap was when i was a kid?
mc hammer, vanilla ice and tone loc. otherwise, mainstream rap didnt even really exist.

Everybody said those dudes was wack.

ManualRam wrote:what is so different from the content you described and say slick rick or BDK's in their hay day?
dre and snoop circa chronic?

The music was top notch.