OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2

[wolfv]

Too bad Bryan isn't healthy because he'd be a real surprise as the partner for Ambrose/Reigns. Not sure who else is out there that would get people excited

[asuran]

Too bad Bryan isn't healthy because he'd be a real surprise as the partner for Ambrose/Reigns. Not sure who else is out there that would get people excited

I can't think of anyone else either. I doubt it will be The Rock, Reigns is his nephew or cousin, that would probably be the most exciting possibility. It's not wrestlemania so I don't think he will appear and I doubt wwe would let this match overshadow 'Seth Rollins night' (this whole Night of Champions is basically set up as 'Night of Seth Rollins') All other cards are just fillers.

[DowNY]

Mystery partner will probably be Kane or Mark Henry to combat Strowman. DB would get the crowd hype but he probably won't be back till Survivor Series or Royal Rumble.

[ctorres]

That would be anticlimactic.

Nobody cares about Corbin.

He is also way too similar to Roman Reigns. Corbin would make more sense as Reigns' adversary.

[ctorres]

I still think even if Punk stayed, there would have been just as much backlash to somehow get Bryan in the main event. He was just way too over.

I wish we could have gotten a CM Punk vs Daniel Bryan match. I'm hoping we still might by Wrestlemania 33 or 34. The story they can tell leading up to it could be incredible. As similar as their careers were, they each have very contrasting personalities, which make them perfect compliments. Would love to see them call each other out on their crap, and see each make their case for who is the best wrestler.

They feuded in 2012 had a bunch of good matches and 2 on PPV for the WWE title. Never a Mania match though, if thats what you were implying.

Yeah, I was implying getting a Mania match between them.

However, as good as the matches were between them, Bryan was a heel during that stretch of matches. It would be a different story being told with Bryan and Punk in their current incarnations. Punk could get massive heat as a heel going against Bryan.

[kingquan316]

I wish we could have gotten a CM Punk vs Daniel Bryan match. I'm hoping we still might by Wrestlemania 33 or 34. The story they can tell leading up to it could be incredible. As similar as their careers were, they each have very contrasting personalities, which make them perfect compliments. Would love to see them call each other out on their crap, and see each make their case for who is the best wrestler.

They feuded in 2012 had a bunch of good matches and 2 on PPV for the WWE title. Never a Mania match though, if thats what you were implying.

Yeah, I was implying getting a Mania match between them.

However, as good as the matches were between them, Bryan was a heel during that stretch of matches. It would be a different story being told with Bryan and Punk in their current incarnations. Punk could get massive heat as a heel going against Bryan.

I think one of them stated that they wanted their feud to be this generation's Bret Hart vs. Shawn Michaels feud. Damn shame that both of them might not even be in the business anymore. I always thought that those two were the only ones that I can see carry the WWE to something great and exciting (especially with Punk), but the company never really had the full confident to make either of them the face of the company. I'm so ready for the Cena era to be over, whenever the hell that happens. But right now I don't know who is ready to carry the company into the future. The two I had confident in was Bryan and Punk, but with them gone not a lot of options left for me. But hey I like Balor, Ambrose, and Owens, maybe they can do it. But then again, WWE has a reputation of being so obsessed with the look of a wrestler than the actual skills of a wrestler.

[ctorres]

Damn shame that both of them might not even be in the business anymore. I always thought that those two were the only ones that I can see carry the WWE to something great and exciting (especially with Punk), but the company never really had the full confident to make either of them the face of the company. I'm so ready for the Cena era to be over, whenever the hell that happens. But right now I don't know who is ready to carry the company into the future. The two I had confident in was Bryan and Punk, but with them gone not a lot of options left for me. But hey I like Balor, Ambrose, and Owens, maybe they can do it. But then again, WWE has a reputation of being so obsessed with the look of a wrestler than the actual skills of a wrestler.

on Daniel Bryan
I think Bryan is going to wrestle again one way or another, even if it happens with another company.

Heck, I am sure that Shawn Michaels was in worse shape in '98 when he retired the first time, and took 4 years off until he came back. Shawn was close to 33 at the time, and came back to wrestle around age 37 in 2002. Shawn then didn't retire until close to age 45 in 2010.

Only way I don't see Bryan wrestling again is if he is satisfied with being a trainer/coach, which may provide him with the most fulfillment above any other wrestling job besides actually wrestling.

In terms of any jobs outside of the wrestling industry, I don't see Bryan getting into the entertainment industry. Any non-profit work that Bryan could get involved in likely wouldn't keep him busy enough to do as a full time gig.

I also don't see Bryan as the type to isolate himself the way Brock Lesnar does in his farm. Bryan strikes me as the type of guy who likes being around people, but isn't going to seek attention. Hence why I think being a trainer/coach would be perfect for him if he cannot wrestle anymore.

on CM Punk
Punk to me tries to come across as the type of guy who wants to isolate himself, but really at the end of the day, he loves the spotlight. He may loathe Triple H, but he'll do business with him again if it allows him to get on screen with a microphone on WWE television. Just like Shawn Michaels, I expect him to wrestle another match before the age of 45.

on Dean Ambrose
I feel pretty confident about Ambrose's future. He's only 29 and wrestles a style that can age very well. He's also valuable due to his acting ability. I truly think out of anyone on the current roster, Ambrose has the most potential for success in Hollywood.

on Kevin Owens
Owens is too good of a wrestler and talker to fail at this point. If being overweight is the only thing holding him back, then I really don't see any concerns with him. He doesn't seem like the type that will get in trouble with drugs or alcohol, and the guy is a very devoted family man.

on Finn Balor
As much as I've enjoyed Finn Balor, count me among the few that is not completely sold on him as a major centerpiece. As good as he is in the ring, and as awesome of an entrance as he has, I'm more confident in the futures of Ambrose, Rollins, Owens, Wyatt, Zayn, and Neville.

Balor is already 34, whereas the other four guys I mentioned are between 28 and 31. I worry that Balor is getting too much of a late start as opposed to the other guys.

[Stannis]

Whenever Big Show or Kane are in a main event, that's just a big turn off for me. Actually any match with them just ruins it for me. They are overused. They are boring. They are just big henchmen that lose every match and they need to go asap.

Sting is finally in a match. Awesome, right?! Against the Big Show.....

BOOOORING

[JXL]

Have I ever mention that I love the Wyatt Family? Bray is such a captivating character that when he speaks, you have to listen, even if its absolutely creepy.

[Stannis]

I find it hard to believe the title will go to a guy who has to wrestle with his shirt on.

So obvious Rollins is going to win next week.

[DowNY]

Have I ever mention that I love the Wyatt Family? Bray is such a captivating character that when he speaks, you have to listen, even if its absolutely creepy.

Welcome to the dark side.

Broadway actors couldn't even be this type of character.

[SaveUsKP6]

If you have the Network and didn't watch that Table for 3 New Day show after Raw, you messed up. Go watch it immediately. Love the format, love the production value and the content is just awesome.

[F N 11]

I must say I have been watching. It is so damn predictable. Wyatt family Drama is cool to me right now. who will be he third partner? I have no clue. Tag team championship stuff is so predictable as well. Dudley boys will probably win it. I dont buy this Sting crap. Sting is 56. I hope he does not win. I mIss Matt and Jeff hardy days with the Dudley boys. They need to turn up the heat. Hopefully Reigns partner is someone we all would love.

[Polk377]

I hope she doesn't hold it til NOC.
Maybe they are setting her up for a big fail, like somehow losing it on Raw the coming week thru some plot twist. Unlikely but I am so hopeful for it.

It's terrible to see Nikki Bella's name at the top of the list as Divas Champion.

You guys are taking this way too seriously. Since when is the Divas division and the record for longest reign as Divas champ so important to people? I mean.. there
wasn't even a Divas division/belt until about 7 years ago. There was a women's title that was barely competed over. Never until now has there even been such a large crop of talented female wrestlers in WWE. So tell me- she's sitting atop a list over what legendary performers? I know there are some on that list, trust me. But were there enough in the history of WWE to make this record so saught after?
Eventually, all the new talent coming from NXT will take over (no pun intended), and women's wrestling will get better and better and the mainstream audience will actually care. Hopefully. But until then, AJ's record doesn't mean anything to me because with the exception of a few gems, the Divas division has always been crap and the belt is anything but prestigious IMO. Especially being called the "Divas Champsionship".

This is true, it's not like she will be the longest women's champion, it's that she will be the longest champion holding that ugly diva's title. Trish held the former women's title for 400+ days. So Nikki Bella won't even be the longest women's champion of the modern era.

The main thing for me is that there are a lot of great divas currently on the roster, and yet she drags everyone down with her being the champ. Instead of being excited for the prospect of a new and improve women's division, we have to continue to wait until this below average wrestler get's that dumb record that no one cares about, before we can move on and actually see the growth of the women't duote]ivision. But hey it's almost time, and I predict Charlotte to beat Nikki at NOC, and hopefully we will never see a Bella hold that title ever again.[/q

Exactly. The diva's championship means absolutely nothing. What I am really hoping for and would really start the revolution is for Charlotte to win the title at night of champions and retire the title the next night on raw and bring back the Womens Title. Let Nikki be the longest reigning champion of the most disgraceful title in WWE history and restart the division with a new title.

[JXL]

You guys are taking this way too seriously. Since when is the Divas division and the record for longest reign as Divas champ so important to people? I mean.. there
wasn't even a Divas division/belt until about 7 years ago. There was a women's title that was barely competed over. Never until now has there even been such a large crop of talented female wrestlers in WWE. So tell me- she's sitting atop a list over what legendary performers? I know there are some on that list, trust me. But were there enough in the history of WWE to make this record so saught after?
Eventually, all the new talent coming from NXT will take over (no pun intended), and women's wrestling will get better and better and the mainstream audience will actually care. Hopefully. But until then, AJ's record doesn't mean anything to me because with the exception of a few gems, the Divas division has always been crap and the belt is anything but prestigious IMO. Especially being called the "Divas Champsionship".

This is true, it's not like she will be the longest women's champion, it's that she will be the longest champion holding that ugly diva's title. Trish held the former women's title for 400+ days. So Nikki Bella won't even be the longest women's champion of the modern era.

The main thing for me is that there are a lot of great divas currently on the roster, and yet she drags everyone down with her being the champ. Instead of being excited for the prospect of a new and improve women's division, we have to continue to wait until this below average wrestler get's that dumb record that no one cares about, before we can move on and actually see the growth of the women't duote]ivision. But hey it's almost time, and I predict Charlotte to beat Nikki at NOC, and hopefully we will never see a Bella hold that title ever again.[/q

Exactly. The diva's championship means absolutely nothing. What I am really hoping for and would really start the revolution is for Charlotte to win the title at night of champions and retire the title the next night on raw and bring back the Womens Title. Let Nikki be the longest reigning champion of the most disgraceful title in WWE history and restart the division with a new title.

I think they are trying very hard to push the Diva's division, and like them or not, those girls can wrestle. However, they're not moving the entertainment needle in terms of skill and physicality. They're eye candy, Vince loves to have them as eye candy, not wrestling (I think that's Stephanie McMahon's idea), and it's implanted in the minds of the fans that whatever they do, they cannot move the needle if they're not being appealing.

That being said, they really botched the whole Kharma angle (remember that?). I thought that was the big push the division needed since the Lita/Trish/Jackie/Ivory golden age of women's wrestling.

[Fury]

New Day will be the only thing keeping me watching

[BeagleBoss]

For any of you little girls here who want to become a wrestler and a future champion, just get fake plastic tits, **** the biggest star in the company and act like an annoying slut on a reality show!

[frogfood]

For any of you little girls here who want to become a wrestler and a future champion, just get fake plastic tits, **** the biggest star in the company and act like an annoying slut on a reality show!

damn lol

[JXL]

For any of you little girls here who want to become a wrestler and a future champion, just get fake plastic tits, **** the biggest star in the company and act like an annoying slut on a reality show!

How dare you document Triple H's rise to the top?

[kingquan316]

This is true, it's not like she will be the longest women's champion, it's that she will be the longest champion holding that ugly diva's title. Trish held the former women's title for 400+ days. So Nikki Bella won't even be the longest women's champion of the modern era.

The main thing for me is that there are a lot of great divas currently on the roster, and yet she drags everyone down with her being the champ. Instead of being excited for the prospect of a new and improve women's division, we have to continue to wait until this below average wrestler get's that dumb record that no one cares about, before we can move on and actually see the growth of the women't duote]ivision. But hey it's almost time, and I predict Charlotte to beat Nikki at NOC, and hopefully we will never see a Bella hold that title ever again.[/q

Exactly. The diva's championship means absolutely nothing. What I am really hoping for and would really start the revolution is for Charlotte to win the title at night of champions and retire the title the next night on raw and bring back the Womens Title. Let Nikki be the longest reigning champion of the most disgraceful title in WWE history and restart the division with a new title.

I think they are trying very hard to push the Diva's division, and like them or not, those girls can wrestle. However, they're not moving the entertainment needle in terms of skill and physicality. They're eye candy, Vince loves to have them as eye candy, not wrestling (I think that's Stephanie McMahon's idea), and it's implanted in the minds of the fans that whatever they do, they cannot move the needle if they're not being appealing.

That being said, they really botched the whole Kharma angle (remember that?). I thought that was the big push the division needed since the Lita/Trish/Jackie/Ivory golden age of women's wrestling.

The problem with the Diva's division for the past years is that they never pushed the diva's as more than eye candy. The girls they have are beautiful, but also athletic currently. UFC main star is Ronda Rousey, a girl. Think about that, she outdraws the dudes in that company. Why is she appealing? Because she appeals to the female demographic because Rousey is hyped up to be the baddest and most dangerous female in the world, and she backs it up with her dominating wins. Girls like that, and it appeals to them to see a female be so dominant in a sport that was mainly occupied with men. Men appeal to her because not only does she can fight, but she's beautiful at the same time. So wwe needs to do something similar to the diva's division. U can build around a bad ass diva, who not only is a badass, but also beautiful. For the past decade they have really struggled on doing the beautiful and badass together for the female wrestlers. AJ was cool, but she wasn't a badass, and they **** up her character with her psycho portrayal of her. They now have diva's that know how to wrestle, so let them perform in the ring and portray them more than just eye candy, which they are can be because the majority of them are hot. You have the same recipe that UFC has with Rousey, it's the booking and the writing that will determine if this diva's revolution works or not. Let's just say I have my doubts about it.