Draft Thread #16 - UPDATE pg 75ish - Knicks inquiring about trade ups

[Fury]

Frank
Who gives
A ****
Bamba
KP

JACKIN

[mpharris36]

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super f*cking giddy right now

[mpharris36]

Frank
Who gives
A ****
Bamba
KP

JACKIN

crazy defense

[Mecca]

I think he's going to have a really hard time improving on his weaknesses, that frame and athleticism isn't going to get any better. Doubt that hitch or the inability to make a runner will get any better either but maybe I'm wrong. Who's he going to defend at 200lb opposing wings are going to kill this guy on defense.

I’d argue that Mikal is a + athlete right now.

I think his frame is going to prevent him from finish at the rim and he'll get easily knocked off his path on drives...he's not explosive and lacks a lot of strength. Athleticism is about more than jumping high...

Strength can be gained in the gym. He plays strong as hell. Have you watched him live?

[NBA Fan 1234]

I know these are glorified scrimmages, but there's a lot to like here off the bounce and going to the basket. His length is a serious problem when extending to the rim.

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He was a very good cutter and finisher in college. He didn't take many floaters/runners because he took it to the rim when he had a lane and used his length to finish.

Knox went to the floater 16% of the time and attacked the rim 18% of the time in the half court. Mikal went to the floater 2.6% of the time, and attacked the rim 27% of the time. Threes and paint finishing is the goal, right? Not floaters and mid-range jumpers like knox goes to. Knox's inability to finish around the rim probably kept him from attacking...EVEN THOUGH he literally doubled his FTR (13% to 26%) when he attacked vs went to the floater. That's not someone who thinks the game, that's someone who is afraid of attacking.

My favorite play from Knox this year was attacking Konate on the drive. Why? Fearlessness. The reason that stands out is because that was basically the only time he did that the entire season.

[DOT]

If we were to get Bamba, I’d move KP+THJ for Kawhi if he agreed to extend.

I don't think I'd go that far

Bamba is still a ways away from reaching his full potential, no reason to try and rush things with him

If Boston wanted to trade us Tatum or Brown for KP, that's another discussion

[El Poochio]

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Wow

Draft Bamba trade KP for Jaylen Brown Kyrie profit

[jermsknicks]

I need help! I am not seeing all this love for Kevin Knox. Show me a clip or two that would make me feel this offseason would be a success if we drafted Knox.

I just watched his highlight game vs WV. Man he was cherry picking most of the game and got a lot of phantom calls against WV. He did knock down a few threes that looked rushed, but what else can I point to that make me buy into this draft pick. How can he be considered to play center if he was always leaking out on a fast break?


I also watched his "workout" video with Givony where he didnt impress me there either.
He doesnt have the handles to compare to Tatum. Could you see him jamming it home on Lebron, I dont....he would probably try to lay it up.

I want to draft a guy with a motor and can play.
I would actually pick MJP over Knox even though I havent seen him play at all.

[DaGawd]

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super f*cking giddy right now

Omg omg omg omg!!

[NBA Fan 1234]

IF this front office can't move up to take either Mo Bamba or Doncic, the Front Office is impotent.

I take offense to that, man. Maybe my name change wasn't for the best.

[KnickLeDime]

And has shown growth in his game every season. There is no reason to think that he will suddenly stop improving/this is his peak.

I think he's going to have a really hard time improving on his weaknesses, that frame and athleticism isn't going to get any better. Doubt that hitch or the inability to make a runner will get any better either but maybe I'm wrong. Who's he going to defend at 200lb.

He's not an explosive athlete, but he's not a bad one by any means. As for the frame, fine, but he's at 210lbs right now. I see no reason why he can't get up to 215-220 once he gets on an NBA weight training plan.

The hitch hasn't stopped him at all in ANY scenario shooting the ball in college, nor is it even a bad hitch - he shoots the ball at the peak, which is where you want to shoot. If you want to criticize one aspect of the shot, at least go for the one that might matter, although it's unlikely - the fact that he shoots further in front of his body than you'd like. I mean, Knox was in the 44th percentile on catch and shoots but his shot looks better...Mikal was in the 94th...with "the hitch."

Knox cannot create plays for others, and while Mikal is not really a point forward either, at least he looks to pass - 20% of the time Knox looked to pass in the Pnr, and Mikal was at 43.

Inability to make a runner, ok. 65.5% at the rim in the half court, Knox was at 55% (not sure if you want him, just saying). He only went to it 2.6% of the time, unlike Knox who used it 16% of the time...but, then again, Knox had to use it because he had no touch around the rim. 62nd percentile for Knox, 93rd for Mikal.

Not sure how anyone who has watched him play is asking "who is he going to defend," but ok.

I would expect marginal improvement from a kid 3 years older than Knox and his experience level...

Mikal also has a high and lose dribble and doesn't move the ball well. Again, he's a really experienced kid and my concern is this is it...if it is it, that's a middling NBA starter right there.

[BowlRips]

Go to 4. Wait for Doncic. If he’s not there take Bamba


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[El Poochio]

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super f*cking giddy right now

Couple of minutes ago there was leak of Memphis #4 deal, interesting..

[Mecca]

If we were to get Bamba, I’d move KP+THJ for Kawhi if he agreed to extend.

I don't think I'd go that far

Bamba is still a ways away from reaching his full potential, no reason to try and rush things with him

If Boston wanted to trade us Tatum or Brown for KP, that's another discussion

I wouldn’t trade KP for Brown, unless it came with next years Sacramento pick. I’m just weary a 7’3 guy will return 100% from a torn ACL. It’s not anything about his play.

[NBA Fan 1234]

I need help! I am not seeing all this love for Kevin Knox. Show me a clip or two that would make me feel this offseason would be a success if we drafted Knox.

I just watched his highlight game vs WV. Man he was cherry picking most of the game and got a lot of phantom calls against WV. He did knock down a few threes that looked rushed, but what else can I point to that make me buy into this draft pick. How can he be considered to play center if he was always leaking out on a fast break?


I also watched his "workout" video with Givony where he didnt impress me there either.
He doesnt have the handles to compare to Tatum. Could you see him jamming it home on Lebron, I dont....he would probably try to lay it up.

I want to draft a guy with a motor and can play.
I would actually pick MJP over Knox even though I havent seen him play at all.

Uploading my strength/weakness video as we speak - should be up by 630. I have other prospects up as well and they all got great reviews from execs that I've sent them to (and former FO personnel like the one I got off the phone with 6 hours ago). I'll post it here and quote you, if you want to check it out?

[ChaosHamster]

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super f*cking giddy right now

nooooooooooooooo

[KnickLeDime]

I’d argue that Mikal is a + athlete right now.

I think his frame is going to prevent him from finish at the rim and he'll get easily knocked off his path on drives...he's not explosive and lacks a lot of strength. Athleticism is about more than jumping high...

Strength can be gained in the gym. He plays strong as hell. Have you watched him live?

I have, I don't think he's going to gain much more strength, his frame, shoulders are very slight. I think opposing NBA wings will bully him.

[Fat]

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Wow

do it

[shtolky]

Taking on Parsons contract and maybe throwing in 36 along with 9 should be enough for Memphis. When you take on the worst contract in the league when you already have another terrible contract on your team, you refuse to include a guy like Frank or a protected 1st. Memphis would still be in the top 10 and would be off that nasty contract.

[3toheadmelo]

If we were to get Bamba, I’d move KP+THJ for Kawhi if he agreed to extend.

I don't think I'd go that far

Bamba is still a ways away from reaching his full potential, no reason to try and rush things with him

If Boston wanted to trade us Tatum or Brown for KP, that's another discussion

I wouldn’t trade KP for Brown, unless it came with next years Sacramento pick. I’m just weary a 7’3 guy will return 100% from a torn ACL. It’s not anything about his play.

kp for tatum

who says no?