Offseason Trades and Transaction Ideas Thread

thebuzzardman · Post #1441 » by **thebuzzardman** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:25 pm

seren wrote:Most number three options have been max players in championship team. Randle is a number three. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. We are just trying to find starter level players to complement our youth right now

If Randle was on another team right now, 75% of the fanbase would be wary of adding his 20 million to the Knicks and violating the sanctity of their cap space.

Luckily, we already have him, so we don't have to act such a way.

Then again, Randle is about to get paid more....

GODDAMN! We need to trade Randle ASAP!

Buttah304 · Post #1442 » by **Buttah304** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:32 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
snadler wrote:

Read on Twitter
?s=21

Love it. Let him darken our cap room no longer.

Free Agency is bringing out the best in you! Peak Buzz around the corner.

thebuzzardman · Post #1443 » by **thebuzzardman** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:39 pm

Is there a way the Knicks can trade everyone currently on the team for the rights to stashed European players and then we promote 7 or 8 guys from Westchester to play out the season? Knicks would be tanking, saving all kinds of $ and have all kinds of sexy future assets for some theoretical trade in the next 5 years, would be awesome.
Someone call Brock Aller. He'd know how to get it done.

Buttah304 · Post #1444 » by **Buttah304** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:50 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Is there a way the Knicks can trade everyone currently on the team for the rights to stashed European players and then we promote 7 or 8 guys from Westchester to play out the season? Knicks would be tanking, saving all kinds of $ and have all kinds of sexy future assets for some theoretical trade in the next 5 years, would be awesome.
Someone call Brock Aller. He'd know how to get it done.

Good thinking. Definitely a diamond in the rough sitting in Westchester. Think Shane Falco from The Replacements only it’s basketball not football

knickstape4ever · Post #1445 » by **knickstape4ever** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:51 pm

DaGawd wrote:
snadler wrote:
DaGawd wrote:We can’t keep punting every off season lol

I’d rather they punt then spend on Schroder, oubre and Fournier and there off season

Agreed. We need to start using the cap space to take on bad contracts for assets.. fk free agency

yep

and since this looks like another offseason where we miss out on the top talent, they should have kept #19 and used it on an upside pick in the draft (like one of the Johnsons)

thebuzzardman · Post #1446 » by **thebuzzardman** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:52 pm

knickstape4ever wrote:
DaGawd wrote:
snadler wrote:
I’d rather they punt then spend on Schroder, oubre and Fournier and there off season

Agreed. We need to start using the cap space to take on bad contracts for assets.. fk free agency

yep

and since this looks like another offseason where we miss out on the top talent, they should have kept #19 and used it on an upside pick in the draft (like one of the Johnsons)

No way. Drafting a guy at 19 means you have to carry that contract on the books and risk the player being overpaid.
Outside of pick 32, trading 19 was best move Knicks made all draft night. Other 3 moves sucked.

F N 11 · Post #1447 » by **F N 11** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:54 pm

snadler wrote:

Read on Twitter
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Somebody about to get overpaid, we targeting Holmes, or we really like Simms or someone else. Hopefully it’s overpay for Lowry, sick of not having leadership at the PG position.

knickstape4ever · Post #1448 » by **knickstape4ever** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:04 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
knickstape4ever wrote:
DaGawd wrote:Agreed. We need to start using the cap space to take on bad contracts for assets.. fk free agency

yep

and since this looks like another offseason where we miss out on the top talent, they should have kept #19 and used it on an upside pick in the draft (like one of the Johnsons)

No way. Drafting a guy at 19 means you have to carry that contract on the books and risk the player being overpaid.
Outside of pick 32, trading 19 was best move Knicks made all draft night. Other 3 moves sucked.

the salary of the 19th pick is very little (~2.7M), I'm sure they could fit that

knickstape4ever · Post #1449 » by **knickstape4ever** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:06 pm

Read on Twitter

According to an NBA executive who has spoken to Rose, the Knicks’ most baffling draft-night trade — moving the 19th pick for a heavily protected future first-rounder from Charlotte — was done partly to save $2.4 million in cap space for free agency. They never were going to use both of their first-rounders, for cap reasons.

they better have big plans for FA, b/c if they traded away a nice pick in a good draft for an extra 2.7M to spend on middling veteran FA's that have no future here, it would look like a bonehead decision (it already kinda does IMO)

The trust in Thibodeau and the developmental staff is so high, they believe modest free-agent moves will lead to another playoff finish

maybe if they miss the playoffs, they might realize their hubris.....they acted like a contender during the draft, when they should have been aggressive adding talent

not gonna be easy to make it back to the playoffs either

knickstape21 · Post #1450 » by **knickstape21** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:15 pm

Can we sign and trade Robinson? Have a feeling we might..

thebuzzardman · Post #1451 » by **thebuzzardman** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:16 pm

knickstape4ever wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
knickstape4ever wrote:
yep

and since this looks like another offseason where we miss out on the top talent, they should have kept #19 and used it on an upside pick in the draft (like one of the Johnsons)

No way. Drafting a guy at 19 means you have to carry that contract on the books and risk the player being overpaid.
Outside of pick 32, trading 19 was best move Knicks made all draft night. Other 3 moves sucked.

the salary of the 19th pick is very little (~2.7M), I'm sure they could fit that

2.7 million? That's an outrage.

The team cut Norvelle Pelle to save some $ and I, for one, am proud of them.

I'm just mad they drafted Grimes and McBride. Especially McBride. They already shelling out for IQ and Harper. WTF.

thebuzzardman · Post #1452 » by **thebuzzardman** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:17 pm

knickstape21 wrote:Can we sign and trade Robinson? Have a feeling we might..

Some inside info?

I'd rather they just release him after this year.

Infinitimind · Post #1453 » by **Infinitimind** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:26 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
knickstape4ever wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
No way. Drafting a guy at 19 means you have to carry that contract on the books and risk the player being overpaid.
Outside of pick 32, trading 19 was best move Knicks made all draft night. Other 3 moves sucked.

the salary of the 19th pick is very little (~2.7M), I'm sure they could fit that

2.7 million? That's an outrage.

Ridiculous. There are no good free agents this year.

The team cut Norvelle Pelle to save some $ and I, for one, am proud of them.

I'm just mad they drafted Grimes and McBride. Especially McBride. They already shelling out for IQ and Harper. WTF.

Chanel Bomber · Post #1454 » by **Chanel Bomber** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:26 pm

I just want you to know that we're really resigning Payton.

Just so the news don't hit too hard.

Post #1455 » by **DOT** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:34 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:I just want you to know that we're really resigning Payton.

Just so the news don't hit too hard.

If we re-sign Payton for the amount we saved by trading the 19th pick, I'm done.

HarthorneWingo · Post #1456 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:35 pm

knickstape4ever wrote:
DaGawd wrote:
snadler wrote:
I’d rather they punt then spend on Schroder, oubre and Fournier and there off season

Agreed. We need to start using the cap space to take on bad contracts for assets.. fk free agency

yep

and since this looks like another offseason where we miss out on the top talent, they should have kept #19 and used it on an upside pick in the draft (like one of the Johnsons)

blanko · Post #1457 » by **blanko** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:39 pm

DaGawd wrote:
aggo wrote:Fournier fits this team at 20mm aav

He’s another #2 or #3 player on a championship level team and doesn’t impede our ability to offer a 35% max or trade for one

Has ball handling skills
Scores efficiently
Can play make
Can lead

All the things we lack he does. He’s a perfect fit for the team rn before we trade for a #1

I legit cannot believe ppl think oubre derozan ball are better players or value as free agents.

Ppl will scoff at paying Fournier 20m but chase down lonzo for 15? What? So he can sit around and watch randle iso? Lonzo doesn’t do anything we actually need. Playmaking, breaking defenses, pnr, shot creation, iso, from the pg position

I’d take Derozan over Fournier for that same money 11/10..

Why? DeRozan can't space the floor

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DaGawd · Post #1458 » by **DaGawd** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:46 pm

blanko wrote:
DaGawd wrote:
aggo wrote:Fournier fits this team at 20mm aav

He’s another #2 or #3 player on a championship level team and doesn’t impede our ability to offer a 35% max or trade for one

Has ball handling skills
Scores efficiently
Can play make
Can lead

All the things we lack he does. He’s a perfect fit for the team rn before we trade for a #1

I legit cannot believe ppl think oubre derozan ball are better players or value as free agents.

Ppl will scoff at paying Fournier 20m but chase down lonzo for 15? What? So he can sit around and watch randle iso? Lonzo doesn’t do anything we actually need. Playmaking, breaking defenses, pnr, shot creation, iso, from the pg position

I’d take Derozan over Fournier for that same money 11/10..
Why? DeRozan can't space the floor

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Derozan should’ve been an all star.. Fournier never will be an all star

KnicksGadfly · Post #1459 » by **KnicksGadfly** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:47 pm

aggo wrote:
DaGawd wrote:
aggo wrote:Fournier fits this team at 20mm aav

He’s another #2 or #3 player on a championship level team and doesn’t impede our ability to offer a 35% max or trade for one

Has ball handling skills
Scores efficiently
Can play make
Can lead

All the things we lack he does. He’s a perfect fit for the team rn before we trade for a #1

I legit cannot believe ppl think oubre derozan ball are better players or value as free agents.

Ppl will scoff at paying Fournier 20m but chase down lonzo for 15? What? So he can sit around and watch randle iso? Lonzo doesn’t do anything we actually need. Playmaking, breaking defenses, pnr, shot creation, iso, from the pg position

I’d take Derozan over Fournier for that same money 11/10..

DeRozan isn't a winning player at SGSF anymore

hes either a backup PG
or a PF

6th man. He is a winning player…if you want regular season wins though. Transforms into DeFrozen during the playoffs though.

bleedblue3303 · Post #1460 » by **bleedblue3303** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:55 pm

I keep asking myself, with the Kings drafting Mitchell and Haliburton last year. Is there a play to give them a large offer for Fox. i would gladly take Heild as well.

Fox
Heild
RJ
Randle
Mitch

That's not a bad starting 5