[Camelo Thread] - Update: He's Pushing for NYK! Part 5

[kane2021]

Favors and 2 or 3 first round picks is not better than what we can offer. They are using NJ to try and keep him.

[jstudabaka]

This could be a legitimate story, with a NJ trade/extension for Carmelo in the works -- but, on the other hand, it'd make all the sense in the world for the Nuggets to play up a story like this to Wojina, to try to get the Knicks to panic and give up more talent.

[Punk]

But the Knicks have to accept the fact that the Nets are a very real competitor here and they could emerge as the winner by February if Carmelo decides to accept the short-term stop in Newark.

If Melo agrees to a short term stop in Newark, doesn't that make the Knicks the winner?

Pretty much.

I highly doubt he will be hanging out with Lopez and Harris after games either. He would probably be partying with Amare and Amber.

[TrueWarrior]

Denver just doesnt want to trade with us no matter what. Its obvious. They'd prob rather keep Melo and get one more playoff run than trade with the Knicks. Waitin till FA is my preference anyway, so I hope Denver stays as stubborn as they've been.

Look if Melo doesnt have the patience to wait if necessary then oh well. Hardly knew ya buddy. I just think its funny people try and use the "uncertainty" of the new CBA as a means for Melo to not wait it out. I mean we're talking about Carmelo Anthony here. Do people think hes going to get shafted all of the sudden? The players union wont stand for it. Hes going to get paid regardless and anyone who thinks differently is fooling themselves.

IF HE WANTS TO BE A KNICK HE WILL BE A KNICK, BY FREE AGENCY THE LATEST. IF HE WANTS TO MAKE SURE HE GETS PAID FIRST AND FOREMOST THERES A CHANCE HE WONT BE A KNICK.

There, in big capital letters. Melo has the power. If hes all about the money/extension then we lose some leverage. If he truly 100% wants to be in NYC above all and knows the money will take care of itself (it will) then he is as good as ours.

So is Melo a selfish impatient turd or does he want to rock the ORANGE and BLUE for real?

Stay tuned....

[Jmonty580]

Lets assume its not about money or location. Lets assume Melo wants the best shot possible at winning a Championship, much like the 3 clowns in Miami were going for. Where do we see him going? I still think New York is the best option with Amare, Unless the Nets can some how get Melo AND someone else of elite Status with the assets they have there.

[Pharmcat]

Denver just doesnt want to trade with us no matter what. Its obvious. They'd prob rather keep Melo and get one more playoff run than trade with the Knicks. Waitin till FA is my preference anyway, so I hope Denver stays as stubborn as they've been.

Look if Melo doesnt have the patience to wait if necessary then oh well. Hardly knew ya buddy. I just think its funny people try and use the "uncertainty" of the new CBA as a means for Melo to not wait it out. I mean we're talking about Carmelo Anthony here. Do people think hes going to get shafted all of the sudden? The players union wont stand for it. Hes going to get paid regardless and anyone who thinks differently is fooling themselves.

IF HE WANTS TO BE A KNICK HE WILL BE A KNICK, BY FREE AGENCY THE LATEST. IF HE WANTS TO MAKE SURE HE GETS PAID FIRST AND FOREMOST THERES A CHANCE HE WONT BE A KNICK.

There, in big capital letters. Melo has the power. If hes all about the money/extension then we lose some leverage. If he truly 100% wants to be in NYC above all and knows the money will take care of itself (it will) then he is as good as ours.

So is Melo a selfish impatient turd or does he want to rock the ORANGE and BLUE for real?

Stay tuned....

lol no need to turn the table on him

its not his fault donnie overplayed his hand and has little assets left to acquire him

melo just giving the nyk a chance (unlike lbj) is good enough for his part, donnie isnt *or cant* doing his part

[Twisted]

Lets assume its not about money or location. Lets assume Melo wants the best shot possible at winning a Championship, much like the 3 clowns in Miami were going for. Where do we see him going? I still think New York is the best option with Amare, Unless the Nets can some how get Melo AND someone else of elite Status with the assets they have there.

If Melo wants the best chance at winning throughout the next five years, then the Knicks seem to be his best option, in terms of teams that are interested and will extend him.

So he probably told NJ to get a better team than the Knicks, or else he won't go. Let's see what Billy The King will do!

[TrueWarrior]

Denver just doesnt want to trade with us no matter what. Its obvious. They'd prob rather keep Melo and get one more playoff run than trade with the Knicks. Waitin till FA is my preference anyway, so I hope Denver stays as stubborn as they've been.

Look if Melo doesnt have the patience to wait if necessary then oh well. Hardly knew ya buddy. I just think its funny people try and use the "uncertainty" of the new CBA as a means for Melo to not wait it out. I mean we're talking about Carmelo Anthony here. Do people think hes going to get shafted all of the sudden? The players union wont stand for it. Hes going to get paid regardless and anyone who thinks differently is fooling themselves.

IF HE WANTS TO BE A KNICK HE WILL BE A KNICK, BY FREE AGENCY THE LATEST. IF HE WANTS TO MAKE SURE HE GETS PAID FIRST AND FOREMOST THERES A CHANCE HE WONT BE A KNICK.

There, in big capital letters. Melo has the power. If hes all about the money/extension then we lose some leverage. If he truly 100% wants to be in NYC above all and knows the money will take care of itself (it will) then he is as good as ours.

So is Melo a selfish impatient turd or does he want to rock the ORANGE and BLUE for real?

Stay tuned....

lol no need to turn the table on him

its not his fault donnie overplayed his hand and has little assets left to acquire him

melo just giving the nyk a chance (unlike lbj) is good enough for his part, donnie isnt doing his part

LOL WUT?

Explain to me what you just said.

Explain to me what what I just said is wrong. Melo has always had the power. If he didnt he would be traded by now and we would have no chance. Denver doesnt want to trade with us. Thank Chris Paul for his stupid toast.

What do you want Donnie to do? Give up the PHARM?

I dont understand what so hard to comprehend. If Melo wants to be a Knick he will be. Is that not true Pharmie? Do you really think Melo is going to all of the sudden be forced to sign the MLE under the new CBA? Professional athletes are making more nowadays than they ever did. Melo is one of the NBA's biggest money makers. Theres absolutely no chance he doesnt get paid this offseason if he waits, and we wont have to gut the roster in the process.

So, like I said, is Melo a selfish impatient turd or does he truly want NEW YORK?

STAY TUNED!!!

[Pharmcat]

Denver just doesnt want to trade with us no matter what. Its obvious. They'd prob rather keep Melo and get one more playoff run than trade with the Knicks. Waitin till FA is my preference anyway, so I hope Denver stays as stubborn as they've been.

Look if Melo doesnt have the patience to wait if necessary then oh well. Hardly knew ya buddy. I just think its funny people try and use the "uncertainty" of the new CBA as a means for Melo to not wait it out. I mean we're talking about Carmelo Anthony here. Do people think hes going to get shafted all of the sudden? The players union wont stand for it. Hes going to get paid regardless and anyone who thinks differently is fooling themselves.

IF HE WANTS TO BE A KNICK HE WILL BE A KNICK, BY FREE AGENCY THE LATEST. IF HE WANTS TO MAKE SURE HE GETS PAID FIRST AND FOREMOST THERES A CHANCE HE WONT BE A KNICK.

There, in big capital letters. Melo has the power. If hes all about the money/extension then we lose some leverage. If he truly 100% wants to be in NYC above all and knows the money will take care of itself (it will) then he is as good as ours.

So is Melo a selfish impatient turd or does he want to rock the ORANGE and BLUE for real?

Stay tuned....

lol no need to turn the table on him

its not his fault donnie overplayed his hand and has little assets left to acquire him

melo just giving the nyk a chance (unlike lbj) is good enough for his part, donnie isnt doing his part

LOL WUT?

Explain to me what you just said.

Explain to me what what I just said is wrong. Melo has always had the power. If he didnt he would be traded by now and we would have no chance. Denver doesnt want to trade with us. Thank Chris Paul for his stupid toast.

What do you want Donnie to do? Give up the PHARM?

I dont understand what so hard to comprehend. If Melo wants to be a Knick he will be. Is that not true Pharmie? Do you really think Melo is going to all of the sudden be forced to sign the MLE under the new CBA? Professional athletes are making more nowadays than they ever did. Melo is one of the NBA's biggest money makers. Theres absolutely no chance he doesnt get paid this offseason if he waits, and we wont have to gut the roster in the process.

So, like I said, is Melo a selfish impatient turd or does he truly want NEW YORK?

STAY TUNED!!!

yes he is not waiting around for the cba, he wants that guaranteed 65 mill, who can blame him for given the cba uncertainity
+ we have provided quotes from his previous extension that shows he is all bout the $$ (again nothing wrong with that)

call him adjectives like 'turd' is misplaced anger

the questions should be thrown at donnie, who overplayed his hand and has little assets left to satisfy anyone

[seren]

It is just the simple fact that NJ assets are better than ours at this point and Denver still has a good shot for a nice playoff run. If Melo wants to come to NY ASAP, he needs to tank.

[Jitpal]

LOL Pharmcat. It isn't Donnie at fault here. If Denver is too stubborn to deal him to NY, then it doesn't matter what the Knicks have. Knicks have pieces for a move, at the very least in a 3 way. I'm getting impatient too but that's directed at Ujiri and Denver. -Jitpal

[Pharmcat]

LOL Pharmcat. It isn't Donnie at fault here. If Denver is too stubborn to deal him to NY, then it doesn't matter what the Knicks have. Knicks have pieces for a move, at the very least in a 3 way. I'm getting impatient too but that's directed at Ujiri and Denver. -Jitpal

you gotta make them a real offer

that means for starters throwin in fields (which by all reports has not been done, and given how everything is leaked in this situation, Im sure it'd be reported if it was)

bottom line is donnie overplayed his hand, and has little assets left, and melo is giving NY a real chance to get him and they cant (a chance lbj never gave ny)

[Jmonty580]

LOL Pharmcat. It isn't Donnie at fault here. If Denver is too stubborn to deal him to NY, then it doesn't matter what the Knicks have. Knicks have pieces for a move, at the very least in a 3 way. I'm getting impatient too but that's directed at Ujiri and Denver. -Jitpal

Exactly, even if Denver doesnt value our peices other teams do. You telling me that Gallo, Wilson Chandler, and Fields dont have any value?

[sol537]

Patience, guys. We've waited a decade to be competitive again. Surely, we can wait a little while longer for the team to be finalized.

[Punk]

It is just the simple fact that NJ assets are better than ours at this point and Denver still has a good shot for a nice playoff run. If Melo wants to come to NY ASAP, he needs to tank.

What assets? 5 draft picks that could be bums or busts.

Derrick Favors who is riding the overrated train. Probably will never be a star.

Troy Murphy an expiring contract. Has no value whatsoever.


Our offer:

Wilson Chandler who is a boarderline all star in a years time.

Gallo another talent with alot of room to grow.

Douglas who is a perfect fit to the Karl system.

Randolph another talent with room to grow. Denver just needs to acquire a brain for him.

How is that better than NJ's offer?

[Jmonty580]

LOL Pharmcat. It isn't Donnie at fault here. If Denver is too stubborn to deal him to NY, then it doesn't matter what the Knicks have. Knicks have pieces for a move, at the very least in a 3 way. I'm getting impatient too but that's directed at Ujiri and Denver. -Jitpal

you gotta make them a real offer

that means for starters throwin in fields (which by all reports has not been done, and given how everything is leaked in this situation, Im sure it'd be reported if it was)

bottom line is donnie overplayed his hand, and has little assets left, and melo is giving NY a real chance to get him and they cant (a chance lbj never gave ny)

If denver really wanted to make a deal with NY, we would go to them and say, here:

Gallo, AR, Curry, and money, for Melo.

They would come back and say no, Gallo, Fields, AR, Curry and Money.

They havent even done that. They dont value our assets because they resent that Melo has been planning for the longest to come to the Knicks. They'll do anything to prevent that from happening, but will they bite off their nose to spite their face? We shall see. if they do, it still might not even be enough to keep melo from joining the Knicks in FA anyways.

[Jitpal]

LOL Pharmcat. It isn't Donnie at fault here. If Denver is too stubborn to deal him to NY, then it doesn't matter what the Knicks have. Knicks have pieces for a move, at the very least in a 3 way. I'm getting impatient too but that's directed at Ujiri and Denver. -Jitpal

you gotta make them a real offer

that means for starters throwin in fields (which by all reports has not been done, and given how everything is leaked in this situation, Im sure it'd be reported if it was)

bottom line is donnie overplayed his hand, and has little assets left, and melo is giving NY a real chance to get him and they cant (a chance lbj never gave ny)

We don't know that though. From everything I've ever read about GMs talking about big trades there are always multiple packages discussed. Some packages include more talent and other packages include more dollar savings. Different configurations and options. Denver doesn't want to hear them. By all accounts, Denver doesn't really even want to talk. Donnie hasn't even played a hand yet because Ujiri won't let him in the game. Right now, it's a poker game with 2-3 guys and Donnie wants to buy in but they are saying his money isn't good there. That's not on Donnie, that's on Ujiri. -Jitpal

[captain subtext]

@Punk:

They go in total re-building mode and the Nets are going to stink with Melo or without. That Draft picks are going to be good good value and they can select players that they feel will fit into their plan. I'm not overwhelmed by their offer as well, but re-building teams want Draft Picks. That's how it is and always will be. Chandler and Gallo need to be re-signed soon, Douglas stinks and Randolph has proven nothing in his three years in the league.

[delvec19]

Wojina's gonna be on Mac and BT's show on ESPN1050 real soon.

[AllanHoustonFan]

Pedophile is gonna be on Mac and Tierney in 40 mins