Hot Topic - Quite Frankly; All Things Frank

[Phish Tank]

I need to see frank improve and let his game do the talking because i need to see some drastic improvement the next 25 games.

do you work for the Knicks?

[cuyankees]

So long as we remain in the bottom 4, we each get a 14% chance, right?

True. I don't think we are at risk of falling out of the top four. But 1 seed is a guarantee of a top 5 pick.

Thenewlotteryoddsarewhack

Even with worst record you have a 48 percent chance of picking 5

This narrative is constantly repeated and borderline fear mongering.

What if I told you w the old odds worst team had 37% chance to pick 4th instead of 48% to pick 5th?

So instead of 1:2, 1:3

Much more things to worry about

[taj2133]

I need to see frank improve and let his game do the talking because i need to see some drastic improvement the next 25 games.

do you work for the Knicks?

As fan i need to see drastic improve because he hasn't done anything on the offensive side ball, i need to see his game do talking instead of frank talking about.

[dakomish23]

So what if you have a 47.9% chance at the 5th pick?

Would you prefer to have a 27.8% chance at the 5th pick and a 20% chance at the 6th pick??

This is a no brainer.

[Jeff Van Gully]

I'd rather have both tbh

Only problem I have with the concept of a DSJ/Frank backcourt is that DSJ isn't big enough to switch onto 2s consistently, which does limit our defensive potential, but it is what it is. Stylistically, they can compliment each other well enough, especially given what I've seen of DSJ's willingness to move the ball. Plus, they seem like good friends off the court, so maybe we get some of that chemistry to translate on court.

Just have to get them to work on getting some consistency with their jump shots, but they're like 20, I'm not that impatient. I'll keep saying it until we end up getting rid of one or both of them, but they have the potential to be a better version of the Kemba/Batum backcourt

i want them to OD rub off on each other. pause.

[Jeff Van Gully]

If Knicks do get that number 1 overall pick, I ain’t too sure I’d trade it for AD....I’d damn sure trade anything other than that number 1 for AD.

But I really don’t think I’d trade Zion for AD!! That kid is special!!

And for the record I’m kinda excited about seeing a backcourt of Frank and DSJ cause I ain’t too keen on Kyrie either. I’d take KD & Kawhi first actually.

NO isn't even listening if the #1 overall isn't in there.

shoot. i'd give them 5 firsts if we could keep #1 overall.

[Phish Tank]

I need to see frank improve and let his game do the talking because i need to see some drastic improvement the next 25 games.

do you work for the Knicks?

As fan i need to see drastic improve because he hasn't done anything on the offensive side ball, i need to see his game do talking instead of frank talking about.

are you a computer?

[Strick]

So what if you have a 47.9% chance at the 5th pick?

Would you prefer to have a 27.8% chance at the 5th pick and a 20% chance at the 6th pick??

This is a no brainer.

Both the same percentages (well, .1% off) of falling out of the top 4. Actually 1st-3rd worst have the same odds to pick 1-4 and have basically a 47.9% chance (47.8% for 2nd and 3rd worst) for falling out of the top 4. The odds honestly look better for teams picking 2nd or even third because that 47.8 is spread out (between 5th and 6th for 2nd worst and between 5th 6th and 7th for the worst record.

Just looking at it percentage wise 1st jumps off immediately as being very sketchy with almost a 50% chance at 5. The thing is that they all have equal chances of falling out of the top 5, there's are just spread out more, BUT only being able to drop to 5 maximum is big too. I could honestly understand an argument for either side

[shtolky]

So what if you have a 47.9% chance at the 5th pick?

Would you prefer to have a 27.8% chance at the 5th pick and a 20% chance at the 6th pick??

This is a no brainer.

Both the same percentages (well, .1% off) of falling out of the top 4. Actually 1st-3rd worst have the same odds to pick 1-4 and have basically a 47.9% chance (47.8% for 2nd and 3rd worst) for falling out of the top 4. The odds honestly look better for teams picking 2nd or even third because that 47.8 is spread out (between 5th and 6th for 2nd worst and between 5th 6th and 7th for the worst record.

Just looking at it percentage wise 1st jumps off immediately as being very sketchy with almost a 50% chance at 5. The thing is that they all have equal chances of falling out of the top 5, there's are just spread out more, BUT only being able to drop to 5 maximum is big too. I could honestly understand an argument for either side

The only thing that matters is that the worst record cannot go below the 5th pick. Top 3 teams have the same chance at a top 4 pick (52% chance), but you absolutely want to be the worst team so you guarantee a top 5 pick. Each slot you drop in the standings can also drop you in the draft. The bottom 3 teams have a 52% chance at a top 4 pick. The 48% is spread out the lower you are in the standings. 2nd worst record can pick 6th (48% chance of 5/6), 3rd worst 7th (48% chance 5/6/7), 4th worst 8th (48% chance 5/6/7/8). There is no argument for both sides.

[E-Balla]

How can you not root for the kid? He’s young and he’s working hard to be a great player and teammate. What more do you want?

For him to compete. Being a great teammate and person is cool, but you need a mean streak to be great.

[1999]

How can you not root for the kid? He’s young and he’s working hard to be a great player and teammate. What more do you want?

For him to compete. Being a great teammate and person is cool, but you need a mean streak to be great.

Not even just a mean streak but at the very least act like you want it. Fiz could decide he wants to play Kadeem Allen over Frank tomorrow and he’ll just go with the flow. Fans can’t want it more than he does.


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[drekwins]

I think that the number 2 and 3 picks have a lot of value in this draft. I think that there's a big drop off after three though.

[Strick]

So what if you have a 47.9% chance at the 5th pick?

Would you prefer to have a 27.8% chance at the 5th pick and a 20% chance at the 6th pick??

This is a no brainer.

Both the same percentages (well, .1% off) of falling out of the top 4. Actually 1st-3rd worst have the same odds to pick 1-4 and have basically a 47.9% chance (47.8% for 2nd and 3rd worst) for falling out of the top 4. The odds honestly look better for teams picking 2nd or even third because that 47.8 is spread out (between 5th and 6th for 2nd worst and between 5th 6th and 7th for the worst record.

Just looking at it percentage wise 1st jumps off immediately as being very sketchy with almost a 50% chance at 5. The thing is that they all have equal chances of falling out of the top 5, there's are just spread out more, BUT only being able to drop to 5 maximum is big too. I could honestly understand an argument for either side

The only thing that matters is that the worst record cannot go below the 5th pick. Top 3 teams have the same chance at a top 4 pick (52% chance), but you absolutely want to be the worst team so you guarantee a top 5 pick. Each slot you drop in the standings can also drop you in the draft. The bottom 3 teams have a 52% chance at a top 4 pick. The 48% is spread out the lower you are in the standings. 2nd worst record can pick 6th (48% chance of 5/6), 3rd worst 7th (48% chance 5/6/7), 4th worst 8th (48% chance 5/6/7/8). There is no argument for both sides.

Exactly. While just looking at percentages 2 or 3 looks more appealing off first glance, but they can drop to 6 or 7 respectively. Get the worst record and pray things go your way. Guaranteed a top 5 pick and no one else would be able to say that

[dakomish23]

Both the same percentages (well, .1% off) of falling out of the top 4. Actually 1st-3rd worst have the same odds to pick 1-4 and have basically a 47.9% chance (47.8% for 2nd and 3rd worst) for falling out of the top 4. The odds honestly look better for teams picking 2nd or even third because that 47.8 is spread out (between 5th and 6th for 2nd worst and between 5th 6th and 7th for the worst record.

Just looking at it percentage wise 1st jumps off immediately as being very sketchy with almost a 50% chance at 5. The thing is that they all have equal chances of falling out of the top 5, there's are just spread out more, BUT only being able to drop to 5 maximum is big too. I could honestly understand an argument for either side

The only thing that matters is that the worst record cannot go below the 5th pick. Top 3 teams have the same chance at a top 4 pick (52% chance), but you absolutely want to be the worst team so you guarantee a top 5 pick. Each slot you drop in the standings can also drop you in the draft. The bottom 3 teams have a 52% chance at a top 4 pick. The 48% is spread out the lower you are in the standings. 2nd worst record can pick 6th (48% chance of 5/6), 3rd worst 7th (48% chance 5/6/7), 4th worst 8th (48% chance 5/6/7/8). There is no argument for both sides.

Exactly. While just looking at percentages 2 or 3 looks more appealing off first glance, but they can drop to 6 or 7 respectively. Get the worst record and pray things go your way. Guaranteed a top 5 pick and no one else would be able to say that

Yeah. Isn’t this what I said? Confused.

[Strick]

The only thing that matters is that the worst record cannot go below the 5th pick. Top 3 teams have the same chance at a top 4 pick (52% chance), but you absolutely want to be the worst team so you guarantee a top 5 pick. Each slot you drop in the standings can also drop you in the draft. The bottom 3 teams have a 52% chance at a top 4 pick. The 48% is spread out the lower you are in the standings. 2nd worst record can pick 6th (48% chance of 5/6), 3rd worst 7th (48% chance 5/6/7), 4th worst 8th (48% chance 5/6/7/8). There is no argument for both sides.

Exactly. While just looking at percentages 2 or 3 looks more appealing off first glance, but they can drop to 6 or 7 respectively. Get the worst record and pray things go your way. Guaranteed a top 5 pick and no one else would be able to say that

Yeah. Isn’t this what I said? Confused.

You may have lol. I just caught your post saying the percentage for the worst record to pick 5th vs to odds the 2nd worst picks 5th or 6th. Asking which would you prefer and it is pretty simple.

I guess I should have gone back a page to see if things have been disgusted further before or anything. I figured it was just a prompted question so I wanted to kinda explain it as full as I could since it is kind of a **** show with this new lottery. My bad

[BKlutch]

If we enter the lottery with the worst record, we feel bad because we have only a 14% chance of winning and figure another team will get 1st pick.

If we drop below the worst record to second or third worst, we worry that the team with the worst record will get the highest pick.

We worry both ways, and we're not happy. What a revoltin' turn of events.

[cuyankees]

This whole draft lottery % fear mongering and the other idiotic idea to shoot for 3rd worst vs worst was started and echoed by some "smart" mods who will remain nameless and it's snowballed into a rebuttal for any + çomment about upcoming draft.

It was idiotic when it had been originally proclaimed, it still is and the mere fact that it's continued to be echoed is even worse.

Want the best odds @ the your team getting the best pick in the draft then go for the worst possible record. Not 3rd, 2nd etc. It gives you best odds for the top 5 pick relative to every team in the league.

Yes there's a 48% chance you pick 5th and last year PHX had a 37% chance to pick 4th.

[rajajackal]

i watched the dallas game at MSG the night before kp was traded to them. my girlfriend very kindly decided she wanted to buy me a jersey at the gift shop. she asks me if i wanted porzingis since i'm always talking about him, but i was like nah i **** with frank ntilikina harder

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[matchman]

i watched the dallas game at MSG the night before kp was traded to them. my girlfriend very kindly decided she wanted to buy me a jersey at the gift shop. she asks me if i wanted porzingis since i'm always talking about him, but i was like nah i **** with frank ntilikina harder

:]

Smart choice.

[Jeff Van Gully]

i watched the dallas game at MSG the night before kp was traded to them. my girlfriend very kindly decided she wanted to buy me a jersey at the gift shop. she asks me if i wanted porzingis since i'm always talking about him, but i was like nah i **** with frank ntilikina harder

:]

Smart choice.

i have never seen a frank ntilikina jersey anywhere other than on frank ntilikina.