Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce

[HarthorneWingo]

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If you were a German, you would have said any opponent to Hitler was not a choice.

You shotgun everything in your path. No discrimination. Every battle to you is worth the same ammo, the same acid contempt, the same amount of anger and angst. Guys like you try to fight every stupid battle and lose the war. There is not a chance in hell you were any good at practicing law. You're on full blast at every opportunity. Your blowtorch philosophy is boring and pathetic.

Must you always compare everything to the its lowest common denominator. Yes, there is always somewhere where it's worse but this is America and man our we fcking up. How many more times do I have to say "Vote for Biden. He's better than Trump. Let's run up the score!"? Yet here we are once again.

[Clyde_Style]

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If you were a German, you would have said any opponent to Hitler was not a choice.

You shotgun everything in your path. No discrimination. Every battle to you is worth the same ammo, the same acid contempt, the same amount of anger and angst. Guys like you try to fight every stupid battle and lose the war. There is not a chance in hell you were any good at practicing law. You're on full blast at every opportunity. Your blowtorch philosophy is boring and pathetic.

Must you always compare everything to the its lowest common denominator. Yes, there is always somewhere where it's worse but this is America and man our we fcking up. How many more times do I have to say "Vote for Biden. He's better than Trump. Let's run up the score!"? Yet here we are once again.

You're the one who always goes low so sure whatever you say.

We're dealing with a level of savagery and corruption within our own government that is without any comparison, but you constantly seek to reduce everything to a uniform rubble of contempt for anyone you deem impure.

There has never been a full-scale traitor occupying the White House, but What About Biden you screech all day long

There is a vast difference between flaws in a system or its candidates and those who seek to completely gut the system for authoritarian rule.

You want to talk policy, then fcking talk about issues. But your non-stop chitfest attacking anybody who is not Bernie or AOC is not discussion. It is incessant whining and pouting and it is beyond anything resembling reasonable distinctions about those you disagree with. If you can't vote without simultaneously spending every last ounce of your energy hating whom you're voting for then you're a clown.

[Knick4Real]

This was a good night for the Democrats. EVERYBODY was on their "A" game. Kamala made history and Barack brought that heat. No wonder Donald Trump spent the night angrily watching the convention while tweeting out junior high school-style insults.

[BKlutch]

read what we said and j4remi's above quote from her about it

AOC knew what she was doing when she said that on TV. She is too media savvy not to have understood.

The audience for her TV endorsement: 16+ million.
The number of people who read her "clarification tweet": not so much.

This is a huge issue, as the original tweet is now blowing up on twitter.

How is it her fault that people don't understand how the process works? She did what she was asked to do by nominating sanders who had passed the delegate threshold which is a requirement of the convention and the video was pre-recorded and vetted by the DNC before they aired the thing. Maybe the dems should have explained the situation a little better before allowing it to be falsely portrayed by the media but it's almost like they were chomping at the bit to try to smear AOC. before she came on bob king came on to do the exact same thing, this is how the process of the convention works

AOC is just too media - and social media - savvy to have just said, "OK, cool, let's give the other side more fodder for tearing us down." She is not a mindless automaton who just does the bidding of the DNC - she never has been. It was on her to say, "Wait, these optics look really bad. Let's write this is a way we can nominate Bernie and not make it appear to be something sinister the other side can use." I"m just not buying this at all.

[Stannis]

Seems to be a rift between Muslim voters and the DNC after the Biden campaign condemned Sarsour. Might be an issue if the races are close like they were last time in the rust belt, where there is a sizeable Muslim population.

[BKlutch]

Seems to be a rift between Muslim voters and the DNC after the Biden campaign condemned Sarsour. Might be an issue if the races are close like they were last time in the rust belt, where there is a sizeable Muslim population.

Where did you see that there's a rift between the Biden campaign and Muslim voters? I believe Sarsour is an antisemitic, anti-LGBTQ+ radical who does not represent the vast majority of Muslims. BTW, the last democratic, Obama, actually assassinated a very prominent Muslim - bin Laden.

[dakomish23]

And another one gets arrested. How is this election even up for debate? Americans are dumb

[GONYK]

Seems to be a rift between Muslim voters and the DNC after the Biden campaign condemned Sarsour. Might be an issue if the races are close like they were last time in the rust belt, where there is a sizeable Muslim population.

Where did you see that there's a rift between the Biden campaign and Muslim voters? I believe Sarsour is an antisemitic, anti-LGBTQ+ radical who does not represent the vast majority of Muslims. BTW, the last democratic, Obama, actually assassinated a very prominent Muslim - bin Laden.

Unfortunately, I think this applies to another prominent muslim Dem as well.

[GONYK]

I finally got a chance to watch the Obama speech from last night.

That was a straight banger.

I don't think a former President has ever gone after a sitting President like that ever.

[GONYK]

This election is sort of incidental to a larger truth: The Democratic party is the party of the Obamas. They are still the standard bearers that everyone aligns around, and who the core of the Democratic voting population identifies with.

[Stannis]

Seems to be a rift between Muslim voters and the DNC after the Biden campaign condemned Sarsour. Might be an issue if the races are close like they were last time in the rust belt, where there is a sizeable Muslim population.

Where did you see that there's a rift between the Biden campaign and Muslim voters? I believe Sarsour is an antisemitic, anti-LGBTQ+ radical who does not represent the vast majority of Muslims. BTW, the last democratic, Obama, actually assassinated a very prominent Muslim - bin Laden.

There's plenty more examples but here's a few:

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Not sure where you are trying to get at with the last sentence.

[blanko]

AOC knew what she was doing when she said that on TV. She is too media savvy not to have understood.

The audience for her TV endorsement: 16+ million.
The number of people who read her "clarification tweet": not so much.

This is a huge issue, as the original tweet is now blowing up on twitter.

How is it her fault that people don't understand how the process works? She did what she was asked to do by nominating sanders who had passed the delegate threshold which is a requirement of the convention and the video was pre-recorded and vetted by the DNC before they aired the thing. Maybe the dems should have explained the situation a little better before allowing it to be falsely portrayed by the media but it's almost like they were chomping at the bit to try to smear AOC. before she came on bob king came on to do the exact same thing, this is how the process of the convention works

AOC is just too media - and social media - savvy to have just said, "OK, cool, let's give the other side more fodder for tearing us down." She is not a mindless automaton who just does the bidding of the DNC - she never has been. It was on her to say, "Wait, these optics look really bad. Let's write this is a way we can nominate Bernie and not make it appear to be something sinister the other side can use." I"m just not buying this at all.

AOC got set up by the DNC and nbc. Its that simple, the dnc and nbc are going to use her clip as an excuse id they loose. She was straight up asked for a roll call of who everyone endorsed, it is dnc procedure. Something that the nytimes/nbc/ect all know about. But they chose to railroad her.

This was a setup to set up a scapegoat and aoc and her block are the sacrificial lambs. My guess is they want to nueter her.

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[Phish Tank]

Seems to be a rift between Muslim voters and the DNC after the Biden campaign condemned Sarsour. Might be an issue if the races are close like they were last time in the rust belt, where there is a sizeable Muslim population.

Where did you see that there's a rift between the Biden campaign and Muslim voters? I believe Sarsour is an antisemitic, anti-LGBTQ+ radical who does not represent the vast majority of Muslims. BTW, the last democratic, Obama, actually assassinated a very prominent Muslim - bin Laden.

There's plenty more examples but here's a few:

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Not sure where you are trying to get at with the last sentence.

The rift isn't anything new... it's something the Party will have to deal with today, tomorrow, and during a next administration too.

Really all has to do with donors and longstanding alliances the Party has with Israel. That probably won't change until all the rank-and-file leave, and it's something that may just even last longer.

I'm not the most educated when it comes to BDS, but it's not a popular stance in the Party. People like AOC, Omar, and Tlaib can easily support BDS because they're firewalled a bit in their districts. That's not really the case elsewhere.

As far as Sarsour, her affiliation with Farrakhan would have easily come up just as well as BDS. And we all know that everyone tries to disassociate with him, opinions aside.

[GONYK]

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Is that like the militant wing of the Salvation Army?

[HarthorneWingo]

Seems to be a rift between Muslim voters and the DNC after the Biden campaign condemned Sarsour. Might be an issue if the races are close like they were last time in the rust belt, where there is a sizeable Muslim population.

I think Michigan has the highest population

[Stannis]

Seems to be a rift between Muslim voters and the DNC after the Biden campaign condemned Sarsour. Might be an issue if the races are close like they were last time in the rust belt, where there is a sizeable Muslim population.

I think Michigan has the highest population

Not sure if Michigan has the highest Muslim population, but I think it's the highest amoungst the swing states. Which was my initial point. 10k decided that state last election. It could happen again. Not votes you want to lose, imo. Over 100k Muslims in Dearborn, MI alone.

[HarthorneWingo]

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Is that like the militant wing of the Salvation Army?

No it’s for a fraudulent scheme to “fund the border wall.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/20/nyregion/steve-bannon-indicted.html

[HarthorneWingo]

Seems to be a rift between Muslim voters and the DNC after the Biden campaign condemned Sarsour. Might be an issue if the races are close like they were last time in the rust belt, where there is a sizeable Muslim population.

I think Michigan has the highest population

Not sure if Michigan has the highest Muslim population, but I think it's the highest amoungst the swing states. Which was my initial point. 10k decided that state last election. It could happen again. Not votes you want to lose, imo. Over 100k Muslims in Dearborn, MI alone.

After 2016 and now Trump along his his crooks in the power, be prepared for anything.

[Pointgod]

Yup this thread has gotten to the point where we’re talking about about tweets and tweets that are over reactions to other people’s tweets. The election can’t come soon enough.

That's because you're completely unwilling to engage in a critical discussion based on issues. There is not dispute that (1) we need to get Trump out, and (2) Biden is not as bad as Trump.

And1 for the bolded. It’s all that really matters. I’d actually say that Biden will be good for the country, not just that’s he’s not as bad as Trump.

And I’m happy to discuss policy but this thread isn’t a discussion of policy just Twitter echo chamber rantings. Discussion of policy goes one of two ways. Biden and Kamala’s policies are met with distrust and skepticism or their records from decades ago are brought up to discredit the policy being proposed today. It’s less of a discussion and more sucks and he’s a secret Republican

[Pointgod]

Who said I'm supporting the republican party? I don't, and I damn sure don't support the democrats. I'm not voting for either. If you think the republicans are any less in service of corporate interests then you are delusional. The two party system is a corporate sponsored dog and pony show, and bootlickers like you keep the show on the road. Congratulations.

Fascinating

Yet the guy backs the guy who furthers the republican agenda.

But it's a "dog and pony show" supported by bootlickers.

Hey, if that's the case, lets just do away with the elections.

Nihilists For Trump

Yeah it’s like transportation to go somewhere where you have to take a train, a taxi and walk some of the way. I may not like walking for some of the journey but I’ll get there. However not voting, voting Republican or voting third party is like taking a high speed bullet train in the opposite direction. It’s baffling.