Build a Franchise Season 4 Offseason

[2010]

If a GM change were ever up for consideration, the time would be now. Strick has already expressed his interest and it's the valley of a long off-season. The opportune time would be now with the draft and free agency months away.

My concern is if Strick isn't granted a team now and Robin keeps up with this ghost GM'ing into the season, or quits due to his prioritized commitments, he may be harder to replace then.

[Mecca]

If a GM change were ever up for consideration, the time would be now. Strick has already expressed his interest and it's the valley of a long off-season. The opportune time would be now with the draft and free agency months away.

My concern is if Strick isn't granted a team now and Robin keeps up with this ghost GM'ing into the season, or quits due to his prioritized commitments, he may be harder to replace then.

Robin doesn’t know any of us, never visits real GM, never posts in the discussion thread, ignored all PM’s...

Let’s be real here, he has no value as a GM to BAF.

I wanna replace him with Strick. That’s my vote.

[Mecca]

I may run another one at 4pm if y’all are gonna watch. Gotta be with teams that are mostly established already though. Who do y’all wanna see?

A. Bulls vs Nets? (Good old Swiss-Mecca rilvary)
B. Mavs vs Clippers? (cap been talking smack lol)
C. Other?

Open to suggestions

Did you use 2k? If so PS4? And did you save the rosters lol?

[2010]

If a GM change were ever up for consideration, the time would be now. Strick has already expressed his interest and it's the valley of a long off-season. The opportune time would be now with the draft and free agency months away.

My concern is if Strick isn't granted a team now and Robin keeps up with this ghost GM'ing into the season, or quits due to his prioritized commitments, he may be harder to replace then.

Robin doesn’t know any of us, never visits real GM, never posts in the discussion thread, ignored all PM’s...

Let’s be real here, he has no value as a GM to BAF.

I wanna replace him with Strick. That’s my vote.

Apparently he knows SOUL, which is why there is a faction of dudes defending him and speaking for another grown man.

As far as I'm concerned he's the corpse of Robin Leach. Lifestyle of the rich and faceless. Preoccupied with running his business from the grave he keeps digging himself and his team while giving life to a select few.

[Context]

If a GM change were ever up for consideration, the time would be now. Strick has already expressed his interest and it's the valley of a long off-season. The opportune time would be now with the draft and free agency months away.

My concern is if Strick isn't granted a team now and Robin keeps up with this ghost GM'ing into the season, or quits due to his prioritized commitments, he may be harder to replace then.

I dont want to call out any other GM's -especially because I dont want them to think
I am suggesting that they quit because they arent around much BUT...there may be other vacancies as well...

Without saying their names there are two gms that may not come back...

[NewEra]

I may run another one at 4pm if y’all are gonna watch. Gotta be with teams that are mostly established already though. Who do y’all wanna see?

A. Bulls vs Nets? (Good old Swiss-Mecca rilvary)
B. Mavs vs Clippers? (cap been talking smack lol)
C. Other?

Open to suggestions

Did you use 2k? If so PS4? And did you save the rosters lol?

2K, Xbox one. Yea rosters are being saved as we go along.
He’s creating your team and Chicago now. I may run Chi vs BK next, and then the masses are calling for a show down between yourself and Hoff.

[2010]

If a GM change were ever up for consideration, the time would be now. Strick has already expressed his interest and it's the valley of a long off-season. The opportune time would be now with the draft and free agency months away.

My concern is if Strick isn't granted a team now and Robin keeps up with this ghost GM'ing into the season, or quits due to his prioritized commitments, he may be harder to replace then.

I dont want to call out any other GM's -especially because I dont want them to think
I am suggesting that they quit because they arent around much BUT...there may be other vacancies as well...

Without saying their names there are two gms that may not come back...

I think I know who you talking about but I think the main difference is they are strong BAT/BaF veterans. So they've earned some skin in the game. They also confirmed they are in for the upcoming season too. But of course things can always change. But I give them some slack cuz they are strong vets.

[2010]

Robin reserving his valued players to a select few while the rest of us be reaching out like...

Spoiler:

[mpharris36]

Spoiler:

Couple things on what’s been happening here the past couple days. And I’m at work so trying to type this up when I get a chance so it’ll probably be disjointed but hopefully my thoughts come out clearly.

First off, I only got to watch the Cav-Indy game for a couple minutes but it definitely looked good. As a guy who grew up in the 80s-90s it’s amazing how realistic the games have gotten. My son tries to get me to play with him but tbh there are to many freaking buttons and controls! I need the old Nintendo or SNES controllers I grew up with. My fingers don’t work that way so playing 2K with my 14 year old is more of a chore then fun. But watching the simulated game was very cool! Thanks to NewEra and his son for putting it together. Whether it was a diversion or not, lol, it was fun to watch the little bit that I saw!

Next, onto Robin and the Wizards. Yes, taking on an inexperienced GM and someone who was so new to the site in general brought me some hesitation. The fact that SOUL vouched for him definitely gave him the credibility in my mind though that he should be allowed to run the team.

I’ve responded to a few PMs already this morning but since this isn’t going to go away I feel like I should comment publicly.

In an ideal world we would have 30 completely active and involved GMs. If you remember back to year one, I actually had GM activity level as one of five criteria’s for free agency. I knew that inactive GMs could be a downfall for this and wanted to give some reward for the people that put their time into it. But at the time, people were very against that going towards free agency and that metric was taken out of the game. Since that time, we have had a variety of activity levels from the various GMs that have been involved. Doing this off the top of my head but I believe we still have 19 of our original 30 GMs from year one. Most of those 19 are very active with a few exceptions. I feel that almost all of the 11 replacement GMs that have been brought in have been extremely active and have raised the level of competition in the league.

Saying all of that, we currently have no requirement for activity. Some people simply can’t put in the time that others can. As it is now we have about 10-15 extremely active GMs. And then another group that stay involved but are a step below those top GMs. And then a small handful of GMs that are not active at all. As great as it would be if all 30 GMs were as active as that top group, I don’t see it as realistic the way things are set up now. Robin checked in when he needed to. He’s made a couple of trades this offseason so he has actually been more active than a few others. I’m just not sure how you can make people become more invested in this if it’s supposed to be for fun considering people live different lifestyles.

As far as the trades he’s made: I generally don’t like to comment on trades since each GM has their own vision. I’ve thought many GMs have made questionable moves over the years. In 3+ years we’ve had one trade rejected though that I can think of. That was a much different circumstance and had nothing to do with the merits of the actual deal. That trade was done by a GM who traded their best player and then immediately informed me that they were out of the league. This maybe a bad trade when you put it all together with the other moves that Robin has made. But it’s his team as long as he is playing. If you consider it a badly run team, then that is your opinion. I won’t agree or disagree but considering most of us are NY fans, we know that the actual league has poorly run franchises.

The bigger problem IMO is GM activity level. Like I said, it would be great to get all 30 GMs completely invested in this game. I just am not sure how to do it as is.

For someone that has been overly critical about the Wash GM position I do understand and align with you here Bish. I think I will have to just approach this just as a poorly run franchise IMO. I think you have come out and stated you will have a more strict vetting process for new GM's going forward and I think ultimately that is all we can ask for in the future. We are all learning as we are going but we all put so much time and effort into this that ultimately like any new owner getting accepted to a major sports franchise (It's going on with the Mets right now) maybe the league in the future can vote on accepting a new owners/gm bid to take over a franchise?

I think while we want to give everyone the freedom to run there own teams we also have to be cognizant that bad moves can negatively effect the league as a whole (it happened in BAT's in the past) especially if it comes to a point where we do have GM's drop out and we want to be able to fill those teams and its obviously harder to fill a team that was poorly run. Since this isn't a BAT where we can just reset the league.

Inactivity is the ultimate sin even if your are a BAF vet. I don't mean to specifically call out KF20 (twolves) but he hasn't even logged on the website for nearly 2 months. I don't think that is acceptable in our league that basically survives on GM's participation. Unless he has stated to the commish he was going to be away from that period of time.

While I do feel that a mostly inactive GM (only reads certain PM and talks to a very small amount of GM's) that makes big franchise
altering moves is more detrimental to the league then a IDOL GM's because Minnesota isn't hurting anyone but himself by being idol. I do think there needs to be some level of activity (even to Slicin' point he came on an explained his situation for the summer) and we all understood and knew he wouldn't be as active. But not logging on for 2 months is pretty bad.

That just my 2 cents.

[Context]

If a GM change were ever up for consideration, the time would be now. Strick has already expressed his interest and it's the valley of a long off-season. The opportune time would be now with the draft and free agency months away.

My concern is if Strick isn't granted a team now and Robin keeps up with this ghost GM'ing into the season, or quits due to his prioritized commitments, he may be harder to replace then.

I dont want to call out any other GM's -especially because I dont want them to think
I am suggesting that they quit because they arent around much BUT...there may be other vacancies as well...

Without saying their names there are two gms that may not come back...

I think I know who you talking about but I think the main difference is they are strong BAT/BaF veterans. So they've earned some skin in the game. They also confirmed they are in for the upcoming season too. But of course things can always change. But I give them some slack cuz they are strong vets.

the issue for me is that we cant really discuss this- to be fair thats the only way we can get to the bottom of all of this but
it will only go to a negative place bro...

[r_obinkim]

Well there. A rookie GM with only casual interest, a limited amount of time due to running a business, and a preference to only responding to select individuals (and no participation in the discussion thread) shouldn't be in the game.

It compromises the integrity of our competition. If there is that much of a lack of interaction and understanding of the nature of the SIM and team building, then how can we ensure deals aren't one-sided? How can we ensure good faith? How can we get a grasp of the GMs vision and make offers that fit his direction. How can we even get a response?

This is not a veteran who has BAT/BaF equity and has earned the benefit of the doubt.

I think we all could say if during the vetting process, this was understood in how the Wizards would have been ran, we'd have had reservations.

To be frank, most of the deals I get weren't worth a response - in my review of their cap, their moves, and their pick stash, I wasn't going to bother.

If a GM change were ever up for consideration, the time would be now. Strick has already expressed his interest and it's the valley of a long off-season. The opportune time would be now with the draft and free agency months away.

My concern is if Strick isn't granted a team now and Robin keeps up with this ghost GM'ing into the season, or quits due to his prioritized commitments, he may be harder to replace then.

I don't want to leave BAF, I found this form of basketball fascinating to exist.
But from what I read, this would the most mature opinion (thanks 2010, we don't even talk so I appreciate it) - I won't even bother with reading accusations because as 2010 puts it, I have prioritized commitments. I inherited the team in the state that it was, and this whole season gave me some insight why some teams in the NBA only trade with others (for better or worse). This is give and take kind of deal, but all I've seen are offers to take. I can accept that as a rookie GM, but I'm noting it carefully as many of you go on to make deals of your own anyways. I like you guys, the gif you made cheered me up during these dark and unprecedented times.. But mostly, I apologize to SOUL for making him look bad.
In my business you rate your suppliers in 3 grades -
A - Willing to work with you, Loves to work with you
B - Open to working with you, doesn't take big gambles but will still be around
C - High Expectations, Extremely Low margins, Hard to work with

In actuality, many of those C accounts are actually multi-billion dollar conglomerates - which runs opposite of whose business you'd typically want to make a living. Yes, dealing with A might get me screwed over, but this is an evolving game / rat race. Yes, the A's and B's may not be the powerhouses... but I prefer to stick to my A's, Listen to my B's, ignore my C's. Take of it what you will.

Thank you, Bish for your public statement.
I appreciate it greatly.

[2010]

Well there. A rookie GM with only casual interest, a limited amount of time due to running a business, and a preference to only responding to select individuals (and no participation in the discussion thread) shouldn't be in the game.

It compromises the integrity of our competition. If there is that much of a lack of interaction and understanding of the nature of the SIM and team building, then how can we ensure deals aren't one-sided? How can we ensure good faith? How can we get a grasp of the GMs vision and make offers that fit his direction. How can we even get a response?

This is not a veteran who has BAT/BaF equity and has earned the benefit of the doubt.

I think we all could say if during the vetting process, this was understood in how the Wizards would have been ran, we'd have had reservations.

To be frank, most of the deals I get weren't worth a response - in my review of their cap, their moves, and their pick stash, I wasn't going to bother.

If a GM change were ever up for consideration, the time would be now. Strick has already expressed his interest and it's the valley of a long off-season. The opportune time would be now with the draft and free agency months away.

My concern is if Strick isn't granted a team now and Robin keeps up with this ghost GM'ing into the season, or quits due to his prioritized commitments, he may be harder to replace then.

I don't want to leave BAF, I found this form of basketball fascinating to exist.
But from what I read, this would the most mature opinion (thanks 2010, we don't even talk so I appreciate it) - I won't even bother with reading accusations because as 2010 puts it, I have prioritized commitments. I inherited the team in the state that it was, and this whole season gave me some insight why some teams in the NBA only trade with others (for better or worse). This is give and take kind of deal, but all I've seen are offers to take. I can accept that as a rookie GM, but I'm noting it carefully as many of you go on to make deals of your own anyways. I like you guys, the gif you made cheered me up during these dark and unprecedented times.. But mostly, I apologize to SOUL for making him look bad.
In my business you rate your suppliers in 3 grades -
A - Willing to work with you, Loves to work with you
B - Open to working with you, doesn't take big gambles but will still be around
C - High Expectations, Extremely Low margins, Hard to work with

In actuality, many of those C accounts are actually multi-billion dollar conglomerates - which runs opposite of whose business you'd typically want to make a living. Yes, dealing with A might get me screwed over, but this is an evolving game / rat race. Yes, the A's and B's may not be the powerhouses... but I prefer to stick to my A's, Listen to my B's, ignore my C's. Take of it what you will.

Thank you, Bish for your public statement.
I appreciate it greatly.

I find it odd you've labeled some as C-grade despite not having any interaction with them. As a businessman you should know initial offers may fall on the low end as a negotiation ploy. To not even counteroffer is cutting one's nose to spite one's face. This is a league of 30 GMs. Relationship building is a huge piece of the puzzle. It comes across as if you have preconceived notions on who to deal with.

Anyhow, hope it doesn't take this to get an appearance from you. No one is saying you have to pop on daily. No one is saying you have to have long PM sessions. But a simple "No thanks" or "eat a dycc" would put you in better standing with more than a select few.

[El Poochio]

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[El Poochio]

Well there. A rookie GM with only casual interest, a limited amount of time due to running a business, and a preference to only responding to select individuals (and no participation in the discussion thread) shouldn't be in the game.

It compromises the integrity of our competition. If there is that much of a lack of interaction and understanding of the nature of the SIM and team building, then how can we ensure deals aren't one-sided? How can we ensure good faith? How can we get a grasp of the GMs vision and make offers that fit his direction. How can we even get a response?

This is not a veteran who has BAT/BaF equity and has earned the benefit of the doubt.

I think we all could say if during the vetting process, this was understood in how the Wizards would have been ran, we'd have had reservations.

To be frank, most of the deals I get weren't worth a response - in my review of their cap, their moves, and their pick stash, I wasn't going to bother.

If a GM change were ever up for consideration, the time would be now. Strick has already expressed his interest and it's the valley of a long off-season. The opportune time would be now with the draft and free agency months away.

My concern is if Strick isn't granted a team now and Robin keeps up with this ghost GM'ing into the season, or quits due to his prioritized commitments, he may be harder to replace then.

I don't want to leave BAF, I found this form of basketball fascinating to exist.
But from what I read, this would the most mature opinion (thanks 2010, we don't even talk so I appreciate it) - I won't even bother with reading accusations because as 2010 puts it, I have prioritized commitments. I inherited the team in the state that it was, and this whole season gave me some insight why some teams in the NBA only trade with others (for better or worse). This is give and take kind of deal, but all I've seen are offers to take. I can accept that as a rookie GM, but I'm noting it carefully as many of you go on to make deals of your own anyways. I like you guys, the gif you made cheered me up during these dark and unprecedented times.. But mostly, I apologize to SOUL for making him look bad.
In my business you rate your suppliers in 3 grades -
A - Willing to work with you, Loves to work with you
B - Open to working with you, doesn't take big gambles but will still be around
C - High Expectations, Extremely Low margins, Hard to work with

In actuality, many of those C accounts are actually multi-billion dollar conglomerates - which runs opposite of whose business you'd typically want to make a living. Yes, dealing with A might get me screwed over, but this is an evolving game / rat race. Yes, the A's and B's may not be the powerhouses... but I prefer to stick to my A's, Listen to my B's, ignore my C's. Take of it what you will.

Thank you, Bish for your public statement.
I appreciate it greatly.

I find it odd you've labeled some as C-grade despite not having any interaction with them. As a businessman you should know initial offers may fall on the low end as a negotiation ploy. To not even counteroffer is cutting one's nose to spite one's face. This is a league of 30 GMs. Relationship building is a huge piece of the puzzle. It comes across as if you have preconceived notions on who to deal with.

Anyhow, hope it doesn't take this to get an appearance from you. No one is saying you have to pop on daily. No one is saying you have to have long PM sessions. But a simple "No thanks" or "eat a dycc" would put you in better standing with more than a select few.

2010's business:

Spoiler:

Robin's business:

Spoiler:

[2010]

To be frank, most of the deals I get weren't worth a response - in my review of their cap, their moves, and their pick stash, I wasn't going to bother.



I don't want to leave BAF, I found this form of basketball fascinating to exist.
But from what I read, this would the most mature opinion (thanks 2010, we don't even talk so I appreciate it) - I won't even bother with reading accusations because as 2010 puts it, I have prioritized commitments. I inherited the team in the state that it was, and this whole season gave me some insight why some teams in the NBA only trade with others (for better or worse). This is give and take kind of deal, but all I've seen are offers to take. I can accept that as a rookie GM, but I'm noting it carefully as many of you go on to make deals of your own anyways. I like you guys, the gif you made cheered me up during these dark and unprecedented times.. But mostly, I apologize to SOUL for making him look bad.
In my business you rate your suppliers in 3 grades -
A - Willing to work with you, Loves to work with you
B - Open to working with you, doesn't take big gambles but will still be around
C - High Expectations, Extremely Low margins, Hard to work with

In actuality, many of those C accounts are actually multi-billion dollar conglomerates - which runs opposite of whose business you'd typically want to make a living. Yes, dealing with A might get me screwed over, but this is an evolving game / rat race. Yes, the A's and B's may not be the powerhouses... but I prefer to stick to my A's, Listen to my B's, ignore my C's. Take of it what you will.

Thank you, Bish for your public statement.
I appreciate it greatly.

I find it odd you've labeled some as C-grade despite not having any interaction with them. As a businessman you should know initial offers may fall on the low end as a negotiation ploy. To not even counteroffer is cutting one's nose to spite one's face. This is a league of 30 GMs. Relationship building is a huge piece of the puzzle. It comes across as if you have preconceived notions on who to deal with.

Anyhow, hope it doesn't take this to get an appearance from you. No one is saying you have to pop on daily. No one is saying you have to have long PM sessions. But a simple "No thanks" or "eat a dycc" would put you in better standing with more than a select few.

2010's business:

Spoiler:

Robin's business:

Spoiler:

[r_obinkim]

@2010

I don't mean to offend anyone.
I'm not saying that I have you guys all listed out by A-C; as you say - relationship building is a huge piece of the puzzle.
It's why I will respond despite whatever is going on in my personal life because the relationship I have with SOUL and what I love about the NBA is a huge to me.
I shared the "A-C" bit to explain my mentality vs. the open speculation and talk of others who don't need to be blamed.

TBH, nothing is stopping anyone for trying to make something work with me but the first step is the most important one.
I'd say most of the "first steps" I've received have been ineffective - should be more of a comment on working relation and value of the sender, than the receiver.
You're right though I could at least respond, and I'll make an effort to.
Especially if it was just a simple question - I could have answered those.

[Capn'O]

Aha! I'm at least a B

Glad you found the gif amusing

[SOUL]

I mean if ya'll want to replace him then I'll replace out too. Ya'll taking this way too **** hard when the guy just wants to run his team and ya'll are bitching about how he doesn't respond to PMs. 2 of the last 3 trade offers I sent out didn't get responded to.

Replace Minnesota too then since he hasn't talked in thread at all and has $600 locked up in Otto Porter/Schroder/Whiteside.

[SOUL]

Also Smash gave away Kyrie for free without guaranteeing getting a better player like that is just as bad as taking on Conley if we want to **** on deals

[2010]

I mean if ya'll want to replace him then I'll replace out too. Ya'll taking this way too **** hard when the guy just wants to run his team and ya'll are bitching about how he doesn't respond to PMs. 2 of the last 3 trade offers I sent out didn't get responded to.

Replace Minnesota too then since he hasn't talked in thread at all and has $600 locked up in Otto Porter/Schroder/Whiteside.

Spoiler: