2020-2021 College/Draft thread 1

[3toheadmelo]

The dream is to get one of Cade/Green

I need to see Green play in some games that I can watch before I can start dreaming about him like I do Cade or Mobley

That’s fair. Im all in on Green though lol

[TheGreenArrow]

Cade Cunningham in orange and blue would be delightful to see!!!

[cgf]

The dream is to get one of Cade/Green

I need to see Green play in some games that I can watch before I can start dreaming about him like I do Cade or Mobley

That’s fair. Im all in on Green though lol

Which is fine, but you still need to get some more Mobley in your life

[knickstape4ever]

The dream is to get one of Cade/Green

I'd throw Suggs and even Mobley into the mix. I think those are the clear cut top 4 prospects

the dream would be the Mavs landing in the lottery too and being able to come away w/ 2 of Cade, Green, Suggs, Mobley

if the Mavs pick were to land in the lottery, I wonder how far up Mitch + the 2023 Mavs pick could get them in a trade up

I’m not really feeling Mobley. He seems alright but doesn’t scream star potential. I just rather take the other guards/wings over him.

surprised, you usually love bigs

Mobley looks like the total package to me: can protect the rim, switch on to the perimeter, good passer and can shoot. still needs to get stronger but he's got a nice well-rounded skill-set IMO

[3toheadmelo]

I need to see Green play in some games that I can watch before I can start dreaming about him like I do Cade or Mobley

That’s fair. Im all in on Green though lol

Which is fine, but you still need to get some more Mobley in your life

I’m trying but so far no luck. If we were to replace Mitch, it should’ve been with Wiseman imo. I think Mobley is a couple of years away from making a real impact. His upside to me seems like a high end role player also. Meh. We need a guard who can create and shoot more so than a project big man.

[3toheadmelo]

I'd throw Suggs and even Mobley into the mix. I think those are the clear cut top 4 prospects

the dream would be the Mavs landing in the lottery too and being able to come away w/ 2 of Cade, Green, Suggs, Mobley

if the Mavs pick were to land in the lottery, I wonder how far up Mitch + the 2023 Mavs pick could get them in a trade up

I’m not really feeling Mobley. He seems alright but doesn’t scream star potential. I just rather take the other guards/wings over him.

surprised, you usually love bigs

Mobley looks like the total package to me: can protect the rim, switch on to the perimeter, good passer and can shoot. still needs to get stronger but he's got a nice well-rounded skill-set IMO

I feel like he lacks that scoring touch I want from bigs. Just doesn’t seem like he can create much on his own besides hook shots. On top of that he’s super thin. Meh...

[knickstape4ever]

I’m not really feeling Mobley. He seems alright but doesn’t scream star potential. I just rather take the other guards/wings over him.

surprised, you usually love bigs

Mobley looks like the total package to me: can protect the rim, switch on to the perimeter, good passer and can shoot. still needs to get stronger but he's got a nice well-rounded skill-set IMO

I feel like he lacks that scoring touch I want from bigs. Just doesn’t seem like he can create much on his own besides hook shots. On top of that he’s super thin. Meh...

he's shown so far he can put the ball on the floor. w/ the hook shot, a mid-range/3PT shot, his rim-running ability, and his passing that's plenty of offense for a C for me

yeah he's skinny but he's 19. in an NBA strength and conditioning program, I'm sure he'll be able to put on some good weight

[knickstape4ever]

That’s fair. Im all in on Green though lol

Which is fine, but you still need to get some more Mobley in your life

I’m trying but so far no luck. If we were to replace Mitch, it should’ve been with Wiseman imo. I think Mobley is a couple of years away from making a real impact. His upside to me seems like a high end role player also. Meh. We need a guard who can create and shoot more so than a project big man.

Mobley has shown more offensive versatility than Wiseman did in college + he looks like a more mobile defender

[3toheadmelo]

surprised, you usually love bigs

Mobley looks like the total package to me: can protect the rim, switch on to the perimeter, good passer and can shoot. still needs to get stronger but he's got a nice well-rounded skill-set IMO

I feel like he lacks that scoring touch I want from bigs. Just doesn’t seem like he can create much on his own besides hook shots. On top of that he’s super thin. Meh...

he's shown so far he can put the ball on the floor. w/ the hook shot, a mid-range/3PT shot, his rim-running ability, and his passing that's plenty of offense for a C for me

yeah he's skinny but he's 19. in an NBA strength and conditioning program, I'm sure he'll be able to put on some good weight

I just don’t see him as a guy you can say “give me the ball and I’ll get you a bucket”. He’s hitting wide open jumpers which is nice and he can pass but I personally like big men who can create for themselves more. I wouldn’t mind Mobley if we miss out on the top guards/wings I guess but he isn’t my priority right now.

[cgf]

That’s fair. Im all in on Green though lol

Which is fine, but you still need to get some more Mobley in your life

I’m trying but so far no luck. If we were to replace Mitch, it should’ve been with Wiseman imo. I think Mobley is a couple of years away from making a real impact. His upside to me seems like a high end role player also. Meh. We need a guard who can create and shoot more so than a project big man.

Did Mitch, KP & 3J need years to fill out before they could protect the rim? You can be scrawny and be a difference-maker defensively in the NBA. Offensively he'll walk in as the ballhandler that Memphis hopes 3J is just starting to become 3 years in and KP has yet to become; while being an elite passing big as well.

My biggest knock on him is that he's a big in an era where you want your best player to be a wing.

[3toheadmelo]

Which is fine, but you still need to get some more Mobley in your life

I’m trying but so far no luck. If we were to replace Mitch, it should’ve been with Wiseman imo. I think Mobley is a couple of years away from making a real impact. His upside to me seems like a high end role player also. Meh. We need a guard who can create and shoot more so than a project big man.

Mobley has shown more offensive versatility than Wiseman did in college + he looks like a more mobile defender

I mean Wiseman played just 3 games in college. He’s been showing a lot of his offensive skillset from high school in the league now which a lot of people didn’t think would translate. Only thing Mobley has on him on offense is passing. But I don’t even see Mobley as a Jokic/Bam type passer either.

[knickstape4ever]

I feel like he lacks that scoring touch I want from bigs. Just doesn’t seem like he can create much on his own besides hook shots. On top of that he’s super thin. Meh...

he's shown so far he can put the ball on the floor. w/ the hook shot, a mid-range/3PT shot, his rim-running ability, and his passing that's plenty of offense for a C for me

yeah he's skinny but he's 19. in an NBA strength and conditioning program, I'm sure he'll be able to put on some good weight

I just don’t see him as a guy you can say “give me the ball and I’ll get you a bucket”. He’s hitting wide open jumpers which is nice and he can pass but I personally like big men who can create for themselves more. I wouldn’t mind Mobley if we miss out on the top guards/wings I guess but he isn’t my priority right now.

I think he could have that potential. w/ his shooting touch it'll be interesting to see if he develops a turn around post jumper

agreed that the priority should be a guard/wing. but if that Mavs pick ends up being good (Luka injury ), I'd definitely look into trying to get Mobley

I'm also beginning to think that having a 5 who can stretch the floor will also help open up RJ around the rim. still too much congestion in the paint for him

[DOT]

Which is fine, but you still need to get some more Mobley in your life

I’m trying but so far no luck. If we were to replace Mitch, it should’ve been with Wiseman imo. I think Mobley is a couple of years away from making a real impact. His upside to me seems like a high end role player also. Meh. We need a guard who can create and shoot more so than a project big man.

Mobley has shown more offensive versatility than Wiseman did in college + he looks like a more mobile defender

I've only really seen one game from Mobley (against my Huskies), but he really struggled against bigger guys

Like, I love Josh Carlton, but he's not an NBA level talent, he just has NBA size, and Mobley couldn't really get going against him

Has potential, I think, but he's pretty raw.

[knickstape4ever]

I’m trying but so far no luck. If we were to replace Mitch, it should’ve been with Wiseman imo. I think Mobley is a couple of years away from making a real impact. His upside to me seems like a high end role player also. Meh. We need a guard who can create and shoot more so than a project big man.

Mobley has shown more offensive versatility than Wiseman did in college + he looks like a more mobile defender

I mean Wiseman played just 3 games in college. He’s been showing a lot of his offensive skillset from high school in the league now which a lot of people didn’t think would translate. Only thing Mobley has on him on offense is passing. But I don’t even see Mobley as a Jokic/Bam type passer either.

and after 3 college games, Mobley had shown more versatility than Wiseman did in 3 games. and Mobley has also been doing the same stuff since HS as well

looks like a high level passing big to me

Read on Twitter

If Mobley had been in this past draft he likely would have gone before Wiseman

[3toheadmelo]

Which is fine, but you still need to get some more Mobley in your life

I’m trying but so far no luck. If we were to replace Mitch, it should’ve been with Wiseman imo. I think Mobley is a couple of years away from making a real impact. His upside to me seems like a high end role player also. Meh. We need a guard who can create and shoot more so than a project big man.

Did Mitch, KP & 3J need years to fill out before they could protect the rim? You can be scrawny and be a difference-maker defensively in the NBA. Offensively he'll walk in as the ballhandler that Memphis hopes 3J is just starting to become 3 years in and KP has yet to become; while being an elite passing big as well.

My biggest knock on him is that he's a big in an era where you want your best player to be a wing.

Tbh JJJ has been bad on defense. All metrics had him as a negative last year. Mitch still struggles against physical skilled big men. KP too. I see Mobley struggling the same way. He’s just too weak. On top of that I still don’t see him being a huge offensive threat either. Sorry cgf, I like you but we’re not gonna see eye to eye on this

[3toheadmelo]

he's shown so far he can put the ball on the floor. w/ the hook shot, a mid-range/3PT shot, his rim-running ability, and his passing that's plenty of offense for a C for me

yeah he's skinny but he's 19. in an NBA strength and conditioning program, I'm sure he'll be able to put on some good weight

I just don’t see him as a guy you can say “give me the ball and I’ll get you a bucket”. He’s hitting wide open jumpers which is nice and he can pass but I personally like big men who can create for themselves more. I wouldn’t mind Mobley if we miss out on the top guards/wings I guess but he isn’t my priority right now.

I think he could have that potential. w/ his shooting touch it'll be interesting to see if he develops a turn around post jumper

agreed that the priority should be a guard/wing. but if that Mavs pick ends up being good (Luka injury ), I'd definitely look into trying to get Mobley

I'm also beginning to think that having a 5 who can stretch the floor will also help open up RJ around the rim. still too much congestion in the paint for him

We’ll see I guess. If he starts showing that he can create for himself I’ll hop on the bandwagon. Besides weak hook shots and floaters, I don’t see it yet.

[3toheadmelo]

Mobley has shown more offensive versatility than Wiseman did in college + he looks like a more mobile defender

I mean Wiseman played just 3 games in college. He’s been showing a lot of his offensive skillset from high school in the league now which a lot of people didn’t think would translate. Only thing Mobley has on him on offense is passing. But I don’t even see Mobley as a Jokic/Bam type passer either.

and after 3 college games, Mobley had shown more versatility than Wiseman did in 3 games. and Mobley has also been doing the same stuff since HS as well

looks like a high level passing big to me

Read on Twitter

If Mobley had been in this past draft he likely would have gone before Wiseman

Like I said the only thing he really has on Wiseman is passing. But I still don’t see him as a Jokic/Bam passer. Still have a lot of the season left to evaluate so I’m not closing the book on him.

[cgf]

Fair enough and you're right, time will tell, but I see a kid with clear avenues to contributing early and a skillset that projects to a star player in his prime; even in this wing-dominated NBA.

Yes, he'll get pushed around by the big boys early, but he'll still be able to give you rim protection from day 1, with the quickness to defend further from the hoop, and the ability to chip in offensively from a complementary role (as a rim runner & floor spacer) if he needs time to figure out how to create at the NBA level. All with the extreme IQ to grow into a modern Bosh if Bosh had also been an excellent playmaker.

I'm not in the camp that thinks he's a modern Big Fundamental, but they do love a lot of the same things about him that I do.

[RHODEY]

I'd throw Suggs and even Mobley into the mix. I think those are the clear cut top 4 prospects

the dream would be the Mavs landing in the lottery too and being able to come away w/ 2 of Cade, Green, Suggs, Mobley

if the Mavs pick were to land in the lottery, I wonder how far up Mitch + the 2023 Mavs pick could get them in a trade up

I’m not really feeling Mobley. He seems alright but doesn’t scream star potential. I just rather take the other guards/wings over him.

surprised, you usually love bigs

Mobley looks like the total package to me: can protect the rim, switch on to the perimeter, good passer and can shoot. still needs to get stronger but he's got a nice well-rounded skill-set IMO

Indeed...I'll take one of those with the Cade...put it on the Visa please ...

[Juco24]

Hey guys, could someone please help me understand how we ended up with Detroit's 2021 2nd round pick? I thought we had Charlotte's 2nd from the Hernangomez trade? Couldn't find anything from Google but most of you are better anyway.