Around the NBA: Hezi vs Melo

SelbyCobra · Post #1461 » by **SelbyCobra** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:08 am

Remember when Cuban or the Mavs released a statement during his rehab after the trade that referenced him as being the best in the league, or historically great at something or other? It was so obviously gaslighting, and everyone besides Knicks fans ate it up. :lol:

Does anyone remember that? I just tried to find it on a quick search and couldn't...

Oscirus · Post #1462 » by **Oscirus** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:08 am

WargamesX wrote:I need the mavs to give up all hope this season and see KP for the albatross contract he is.....

I dont they can get rid of him next season

WargamesX · Post #1463 » by **WargamesX** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:10 am

Oscirus wrote:
WargamesX wrote:I need the mavs to give up all hope this season and see KP for the albatross contract he is.....

I dont they can get rid of him next season

They can’t. If this is him now he is a bad contract.

robillionaire · Post #1464 » by **robillionaire** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:14 am

SelbyCobra wrote:Remember when Cuban or the Mavs released a statement during his rehab after the trade that referenced him as being the best in the league, or historically great at something or other? It was so obviously gaslighting, and everyone besides Knicks fans ate it up.

Does anyone remember that? I just tried to find it on a quick search and couldn't...

I remember last year Carlisle was explaining why they don’t run post ups for KP by saying he was a “historically great all-time 3- point shooter with unbelievable efficiency” when that couldn’t be anything further from reality, and he just can’t post up because he’s soft. Then mavs fans tried to convince us that posting up is dead in the NBA, just because he can’t do it. Funny stuff.

Guano · Post #1465 » by **Guano** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:15 am

that block was clean

SelbyCobra · Post #1466 » by **SelbyCobra** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:15 am

SelbyCobra wrote:Remember when Cuban or the Mavs released a statement during his rehab after the trade that referenced him as being the best in the league, or historically great at something or other? It was so obviously gaslighting, and everyone besides Knicks fans ate it up.

Does anyone remember that? I just tried to find it on a quick search and couldn't...

I think this was it. He was shooting 43% from the field at the time of the quote. :lol:

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SelbyCobra · Post #1467 » by **SelbyCobra** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:19 am

robillionaire wrote:
SelbyCobra wrote:Remember when Cuban or the Mavs released a statement during his rehab after the trade that referenced him as being the best in the league, or historically great at something or other? It was so obviously gaslighting, and everyone besides Knicks fans ate it up.

Does anyone remember that? I just tried to find it on a quick search and couldn't...

I remember last year Carlisle was explaining why they don’t run post ups for KP by saying he was a “historically great all-time 3- point shooter with unbelievable efficiency” when that couldn’t be anything further from reality, and he just can’t post up because he’s soft. Then mavs fans tried to convince us that posting up is dead in the NBA, just because he can’t do it. Funny stuff.

Yessss! That one was great, too.

robillionaire · Post #1468 » by **robillionaire** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:20 am

What it was. The Inside the NBA crew were criticizing KP for being unable to post up. Then Carlisle came back with this hilarity

“The post-up just isn’t a good play anymore. It just isn’t a good play. It’s not a good play for a 7-3 guy. It’s a low-value situation. Our numbers are very substantial that when he spaces beyond the 3-point line, you know, we’re a historically good offensive team. And when any of our guys go in there, our effectiveness is diminished exponentially. It’s counterintuitive, I understand that, but it’s a fact. I think there’s certain situations where it makes sense. If we can get him on a roll in the paint towards the rim, that’s a good situation. And that’s what we’ll try to do with all our guys.

“We don’t post anybody up. We post Luka up every once in a while when he has a real small guy on him. But even those situations, the value of those situations has plummeted. We’ve got to realize that this game has changed. It’s changed. It’s just a fact. And he’s a guy when he spaces beyond the arc, above the break, is a historically great all-time 3-point shooter with unbelievable efficiency. And the thing I like about his game now is his reads have gotten better. His spacing is such that when people run at him, he’s now driving the ball directly for dunks. He’s throwing some really cool lob passes to (Dwight) Powell. I mean, you’ve got a 7-3 guy throwing to a 6-10 guy on a lob? That’s pretty (expletive) cool if you ask me.

“Let’s get off of all this stuff that KP needs to go in the post. He doesn’t. He doesn’t. I’m OK with him going in there once in a while, but we don’t post anybody. It’s nothing personal against him. Look, he’s used to doing it because they ran the triangle for two or three years when he was (with the Knicks). Who’s running the triangle now? Has anyone seen anyone running the triangle offense? The triple post? If you do, raise your hand, because I wanna see who you are. Because I haven’t seen it. Because that offense is extinct. Look, it went extinct when Phil Jackson retired. He’s the only one who ever had any success with it. He’s a genius and a master of it, but look, we’ve got to get off of this thing. We’ve got to treat KP with some respect. And respect him for what he is. He’s a historically great player. And quit criticizing him because he’s 7-3. That’s what everybody’s doing. I don’t care who it is. I don’t care if it’s people on TV or anything else.”

SelbyCobra · Post #1469 » by **SelbyCobra** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:25 am

robillionaire wrote:What it was. The Inside the NBA crew were criticizing KP for being unable to post up. Then Carlisle came back with this hilarity

“The post-up just isn’t a good play anymore. It just isn’t a good play. It’s not a good play for a 7-3 guy. It’s a low-value situation. Our numbers are very substantial that when he spaces beyond the 3-point line, you know, we’re a historically good offensive team. And when any of our guys go in there, our effectiveness is diminished exponentially. It’s counterintuitive, I understand that, but it’s a fact. I think there’s certain situations where it makes sense. If we can get him on a roll in the paint towards the rim, that’s a good situation. And that’s what we’ll try to do with all our guys.

“We don’t post anybody up. We post Luka up every once in a while when he has a real small guy on him. But even those situations, the value of those situations has plummeted. We’ve got to realize that this game has changed. It’s changed. It’s just a fact. And he’s a guy when he spaces beyond the arc, above the break, is a historically great all-time 3-point shooter with unbelievable efficiency. And the thing I like about his game now is his reads have gotten better. His spacing is such that when people run at him, he’s now driving the ball directly for dunks. He’s throwing some really cool lob passes to (Dwight) Powell. I mean, you’ve got a 7-3 guy throwing to a 6-10 guy on a lob? That’s pretty (expletive) cool if you ask me.

“Let’s get off of all this stuff that KP needs to go in the post. He doesn’t. He doesn’t. I’m OK with him going in there once in a while, but we don’t post anybody. It’s nothing personal against him. Look, he’s used to doing it because they ran the triangle for two or three years when he was (with the Knicks). Who’s running the triangle now? Has anyone seen anyone running the triangle offense? The triple post? If you do, raise your hand, because I wanna see who you are. Because I haven’t seen it. Because that offense is extinct. Look, it went extinct when Phil Jackson retired. He’s the only one who ever had any success with it. He’s a genius and a master of it, but look, we’ve got to get off of this thing. We’ve got to treat KP with some respect. And respect him for what he is. He’s a historically great player. And quit criticizing him because he’s 7-3. That’s what everybody’s doing. I don’t care who it is. I don’t care if it’s people on TV or anything else.”

He actually had a point with the best way to use him and where modern offenses have gone, but when he bolstered it with these quotes everyone on this board knew he was just completely and totally full of isht. :lol:

"[He's] a historically great all-time 3-point shooter with unbelievable efficiency"

"We’ve got to treat KP with some respect. And respect him for what he is. He’s a historically great player."

SelbyCobra · Post #1470 » by **SelbyCobra** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:30 am

Holy ISHT

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Oscirus · Post #1471 » by **Oscirus** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:34 am

People wanted us to draft Terry over iq, Terry's currently a garbage time player jess sayin

robillionaire · Post #1472 » by **robillionaire** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:37 am

Oscirus wrote:People wanted us to draft Terry over iq, Terry's currently a garbage time player jess sayin

There’s folks that wanted to pick that dude 8th

3toheadmelo · Post #1473 » by **3toheadmelo** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:41 am

3toheadmelo wrote:Oh the Mavs play tonight? Say less. Mavs are awesome.

Melo curse undefeated

BugginOut · Post #1474 » by **BugginOut** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:41 am

robillionaire wrote:
Oscirus wrote:People wanted us to draft Terry over iq, Terry's currently a garbage time player jess sayin

There’s folks that wanted to pick that dude 8th

The Ringer hyped him and Killian Hayes up for no reason. Killian cause he was shooting step backs (poorly by the way) and Tyrell cause he was shooting the 3 well at Stanford of all places. People were thinking Terry was going to be discount Steph Curry.

Turns out IQ fits that description better lmao.

aq_ua · Post #1475 » by **aq_ua** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:51 am

BugginOut wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
Oscirus wrote:People wanted us to draft Terry over iq, Terry's currently a garbage time player jess sayin

There’s folks that wanted to pick that dude 8th

The Ringer hyped him and Killian Hayes up for no reason. Killian cause he was shooting step backs (poorly by the way) and Tyrell cause he was shooting the 3 well at Stanford of all places. People were thinking Terry was going to be discount Steph Curry.

Turns out IQ fits that description better lmao.

Man, the original Steph Curry was doing his thing at Davidson of all places. It's just hard to project how draft picks perform in the NBA, plain and simple. That being said, I totally knew Quickley was going to be as good as he is, really I did. :wink:

WargamesX · Post #1476 » by **WargamesX** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:53 am

BugginOut wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
Oscirus wrote:People wanted us to draft Terry over iq, Terry's currently a garbage time player jess sayin

There’s folks that wanted to pick that dude 8th

The Ringer hyped him and Killian Hayes up for no reason. Killian cause he was shooting step backs (poorly by the way) and Tyrell cause he was shooting the 3 well at Stanford of all places. People were thinking Terry was going to be discount Steph Curry.

Turns out IQ fits that description better lmao.

IQ is Chauncey Billups 2.0 drawing fouls, shooting threes, crazy arm length..... the kid is going to be good

robillionaire · Post #1477 » by **robillionaire** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:56 am

BugginOut wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
Oscirus wrote:People wanted us to draft Terry over iq, Terry's currently a garbage time player jess sayin

There’s folks that wanted to pick that dude 8th

The Ringer hyped him and Killian Hayes up for no reason. Killian cause he was shooting step backs (poorly by the way) and Tyrell cause he was shooting the 3 well at Stanford of all places. People were thinking Terry was going to be discount Steph Curry.

Turns out IQ fits that description better lmao.

I mean he could still turn out to be a decent player, Carlisle doesn’t like to play rookies much and he’s hardly had an opportunity to show anything. But I agree the ringer, sometimes I think they try too hard to be contrarian, I continued to be baffled at them putting Hayes at the top spot

SelbyCobra · Post #1478 » by **SelbyCobra** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 6:12 am

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aq_ua · Post #1479 » by **aq_ua** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 6:21 am

SelbyCobra wrote:

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Oscirus · Post #1480 » by **Oscirus** » Sat Jan 30, 2021 6:33 am

aq_ua wrote:
BugginOut wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
There’s folks that wanted to pick that dude 8th

The Ringer hyped him and Killian Hayes up for no reason. Killian cause he was shooting step backs (poorly by the way) and Tyrell cause he was shooting the 3 well at Stanford of all places. People were thinking Terry was going to be discount Steph Curry.

Turns out IQ fits that description better lmao.

Man, the original Steph Curry was doing his thing at Davidson of all places. It's just hard to project how draft picks perform in the NBA, plain and simple. That being said, I totally knew Quickley was going to be as good as he is, really I did.

curry was taking davidson to heights they had no business going to in the ncaa tournament. He was a one man band. Terry while impressive was still part of a system on a pretty good team.