OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2

delvec19 · Post #1481 » by **delvec19** » Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:00 pm

Saying Sting has a serious neck injury and could be career threatening. Why did they have a 56 year old taking all those bumps? Annouce table bump was nasty, he hit his head on the monitor. He dove from the top rope to the floor, then the turnbuckle powerbomb he took was the cherry on top. I felt legit scared seeing him wobble like that in the ring. He couldn't even bend to put on the Scorpion deathlock properly.

Also why did they have to schedule the matches back to back like that? They knew Seth would be tired and they needed him to properly carry and protect Sting in their match. Now Seth is probably going to get a reputation for injuring guys now after this and breaking Cena's nose.

jonny31623 · Post #1482 » by **jonny31623** » Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:20 pm

DASMACKDOWN wrote:Concerning the NOC, here is my take...

Y2J showing up to do his "Job" made the most sense. If it wasn't going to be an A-list wrestler that could actually keep the fued going, then they needed someone from that group to take the fall. It was going to be Dean or Roman and Y2J is only a part time wrestler so it just made sense. This way they can keep the heat on the Wyatt/(Shield) group for alot longer. I think ultimately its going to be a Shield reunion.

Next, Im glad the Nikki Bella thing is over. Stephanie this is Day 1 of the 'real' Diva revolution. Lets see what you got.

Im glad Kevin Owen has a title. Now please dont screw him up being making him some mid card type champion. Dude is legit.

Cena is Cena and I just laugh at it now. It made sense for Rollins not to wear two belts but giving it back to Cena...again..is just no braincells used at all. I have no idea where it goes from there. Well actually my hope is that Lana gets back with Rusev and reclaims the US title.

And what exactly are they doing with Sting? So far, all the hype on his returns, only to lose to HHH and now lose to Rollins on consecutive Main Events he has been in. They are somehow making Sting to be irrelevant. Big mistake.

i think stings name alone carrys weight. but losing and losing is taking a toll on his mystique. i also think that sting talking and doing promos was a horrrribleeee idea. the sting with the white face paint doesnt talk.

all that being said, seeing him hurt like that yesterday was painful to watch. i hope thats not his last match but it very might well be.

jonny31623 · Post #1483 » by **jonny31623** » Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:23 pm

delvec19 wrote:Saying Sting has a serious neck injury and could be career threatening. Why did they have a 56 year old taking all those bumps? Annouce table bump was nasty, he hit his head on the monitor. He dove from the top rope to the floor, then the turnbuckle powerbomb he took was the cherry on top. I felt legit scared seeing him wobble like that in the ring. He couldn't even bend to put on the Scorpion deathlock properly.

Also why did they have to schedule the matches back to back like that? They knew Seth would be tired and they needed him to properly carry and protect Sting in their match. Now Seth is probably going to get a reputation for injuring guys now after this and breaking Cena's nose.

seth is so over with the fans, that breaking cena's nose couldve only helped his rep. and yea you are right, i dont understand why they didnt let rollins be fresh. he had to carry sting. you can see it when sting jumped off the top rope and seth basically caught him in mid air and then fell down. i dont know if you know which sequence im talking about but it was when sting jumped off outside the ring. i hope seth doesnt get the injuring type of rep. the guy is awesome. the inevitable face turn will put him on par with the greats like austin and the rock if it is done correctly. and i never thought i would say that in a million years for anyone in this era

Jeffrey · Post #1484 » by **Jeffrey** » Mon Sep 21, 2015 6:53 pm

The ending was stupid... Kane?! The two guys that are getting X-Pac heat are Big Show and Kane. Why do you have Kane coming out and ending with the damn show?! Just because he is different from Corporate Kane and Big Red Machine... IT IS STILL KANE.

Divas storyline needs to be simpler. They need to go back to booking 101 and the storyline is not about their fake tits and divas reality tv show. It should be about getting the belt. They want to be at Wrestlemania fighting for the belt... that's it. No hair pulling match, wrestling in the mud match, tits and ass match, bikini match and the most recent triple way, if one pinfall the whole team is out match.

Champion - Charlotte... have Nikki Bella use the rematch clause.
Matches for no.1 contenders match during Raw between Paige, Becky Lynch, Sasha banks and Natayla. These matches will go on until next PPV. They dn't need 12 minute matches all the time. Short simple matches. The PPV will have 10-13 minute matches.

Kevin Owens winning IC - thank god.

New Day retaining belt - great

John Cena winning US title - please reopen the challenge

Rusev/Ziggler - Keep the feud going but also have them in the picture for the IC title

Where is Cesaro?! Is he hurt? <sigh>

kingquan316 · Post #1485 » by **kingquan316** » Mon Sep 21, 2015 9:53 pm

delvec19 wrote:Saying Sting has a serious neck injury and could be career threatening. Why did they have a 56 year old taking all those bumps? Annouce table bump was nasty, he hit his head on the monitor. He dove from the top rope to the floor, then the turnbuckle powerbomb he took was the cherry on top. I felt legit scared seeing him wobble like that in the ring. He couldn't even bend to put on the Scorpion deathlock properly.

Also why did they have to schedule the matches back to back like that? They knew Seth would be tired and they needed him to properly carry and protect Sting in their match. Now Seth is probably going to get a reputation for injuring guys now after this and breaking Cena's nose.

The way he threw Sting at those turnbuckles was not good planning by wwe for protecting someone that old. He did it twice in the match also. The first one he did, I was thinking that Sting shouldn't take those high risk bumps, for a guy that old, and a guy that hasn't wrestled full time in years.

Time to retire Sting, it's over, great career, one my favorites all time, and involved in probably my top 3 favorite wrestling story lines of Crow sting vs. NWO.

Butch718 · Post #1486 » by **Butch718** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 1:21 am

Great promo from Paige.

DowNY · Post #1487 » by **DowNY** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:26 am

Butch718 wrote:Great promo from Paige.

Yep. The crowd wasn't hot enough though. They're wack.

Like the new touch of this cooperate Kane gimmick. Alter ego, weirdo problems.

kingquan316 · Post #1488 » by **kingquan316** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 4:32 am

Seth loses twice to Cena in back to back nites.

Go Away Cena!!!

Moose · Post #1489 » by **Moose** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 4:46 am

WWE has to protect their wrestlers, but Sting wanted to take those bumps. That's just the way it is. Wrestling is scripted, but a lot of these guys, both famous and not, live and die with it.

I thought Sting looked ok until that injury. A little slower than last time out. And the timing was a bit off. But def more watchable than undertaker.

Rollins did okay playing off the injury. It can't be easy to know someone is seriously hurt and have to scream ''come on sting!'' and mock him.

At that point, I was kinda hoping sting would roll him up for a close 3 when Rollins had his back turned and then the match would continue on...but at least sting got it done and that Rollins pin was pretty nice considering you are now trying to not hurt the guy. Still looked pretty good.

Personally, if HHH just sucked up his pride and lost to Sting, this loss wouldn't matter. But now Sting has two losses in his two matches. If he is able to go, he cant lose at wrestlemania.

BeagleBoss · Post #1490 » by **BeagleBoss** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 11:55 am

Loved Paige slut dissing the Bella's!! :lol:

Post #1491 » by **DASMACKDOWN** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 4:34 pm

BeagleBoss wrote:Loved Paige slut dissing the Bella's!!

It would have been 10x better with a lively crowd. The crowd was pretty dead. Considering it was the first Raw after a PPV event, it made it even worse.

F N 11 · Post #1492 » by **F N 11** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:12 pm

Cena picking up Seth for the attitude adjustment after getting frog splashed pissed me off. Just as Im getting back into wrestling. I always fast forward anything with Divas. Wrestling needs more entertaining guys. Wyatt family are cool. Maybe Y2J will come back if Randy Orton gets taken out again. My big thing is who is going to beat that black sheep dude. lol.

Alot of people hated Kurt Angle but I loved that guy. The Rock, Stone Cold...Miss the good old days.

JXL · Post #1493 » by **JXL** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:19 pm

I can barely get through yesterday's show. I have seriously fallen off the wrestling bandwagon. Only 2 things I have liked from WWE these days:

-Wyatts are an awesome gimmick. Going with that "Deliverance" montage twisted with "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" kind of madness.
-Dudley Boyz making the tag division relevant again.

Bill Pidto · Post #1494 » by **Bill Pidto** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 8:37 pm

JayKnicKz11 wrote:Cena picking up Seth for the attitude adjustment after getting frog splashed pissed me off. Just as Im getting back into wrestling. I always fast forward anything with Divas. Wrestling needs more entertaining guys. Wyatt family are cool. Maybe Y2J will come back if Randy Orton gets taken out again. My big thing is who is going to beat that black sheep dude. lol.

Alot of people hated Kurt Angle but I loved that guy. The Rock, Stone Cold...Miss the good old days.

Kurt Angle is one of the all-time greats. And no, Jericho coming back will not make wrestling more entertaining.

I really love a lot of the talent WWE has now, but I hate so many other things about the product. The characters lack maturity and an edge like they used to have. And I feel they can bring that back without using such foul language and degrading women and minorities lol. Shouldn't be that hard to make wrestling less PG and less PC, without crossing the line and alienating the younger crowd. Basically ruthless agression era without the sexism.

They need to change the presentation too, IMO. It feels cheesey and over-produced, whereas the attitude era set and presentation felt gritty and more like pro wrestling should. I undestand they want to modernize the product and utilize techonology and social media and all that.. but again.. I feel like it's something they could find a better middle ground on. The set looks too bright and too clean. It feels more like a broadway show than a sporting event. All the LED screens everywhere, the giant WWE logos EVERWHERE, the bright colors, the clean white ropes and ring posts. It just doesnt feel right. It feels corporate. It feels like a Disney thing. And I really miss the old days in that respect, because it does have an effect on the show. Colors and lighting can really effect the mood and vibes of the audience. That's why sports teams choose their color schemes so carefully, and why the arena's atmosphere is designed to hype you up for the event. I just feel like the WWE could reinvent themselves and give the show a totally new feel just by giving it a totally new look. They've done it many times in the past, and I'm waiting for the next phase of branding and marketing they go with.. because this is definitely getting stale.

F N 11 · Post #1495 » by **F N 11** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 8:43 pm

Seems like a circus to me. Orchestrated to perfection.

CoreyVillains · Post #1496 » by **CoreyVillains** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 4:37 am

That Paige promo was one of the best promos of the year, so glad they split up that faction. Now we just need to let Sasha free from hers.

Heat3 · Post #1497 » by **Heat3** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 4:51 am

indeed a great promo by paige. charlotte's mushy crap was pretty well delivered as well. i bought it and at the same time was thinking wtf is this crap. this ain't wrestling :lol:

Post #1498 » by **DASMACKDOWN** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 3:45 pm

I watched Total Divas last night (Dont Judge me), and I must say I have a new appreciation for them. I was kind of shocked in a way, about how good they actually look. You cant really notice it much between the hair pulls and the suplexes, but on the show, you really get to see them differently.

Stannis · Post #1499 » by **Stannis** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 4:23 pm

You think New Day might make pushes for other titles?

I hope D-Von turns on Bubba and joins New Day.

F N 11 · Post #1500 » by **F N 11** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 4:23 pm

DASMACKDOWN wrote:I watched Total Divas last night (Dont Judge me), and I must say I have a new appreciation for them. I was kind of shocked in a way, about how good they actually look. You cant really notice it much between the hair pulls and the suplexes, but on the show, you really get to see them differently.