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Jay10 wrote:2010 wrote:At 9, I am taking Porter and I am running!
Until the game where he dunks and ends up being Amar'e after his dunk in the layup line a few years ago.
2010 wrote:Jay10 wrote:2010 wrote:At 9, I am taking Porter and I am running!
Until the game where he dunks and ends up being Amar'e after his dunk in the layup line a few years ago.
And if that never happens we'll have to endure years of endless tears about how we passed on him.
It works both ways.
2010 wrote:Jay10 wrote:2010 wrote:At 9, I am taking Porter and I am running!
Until the game where he dunks and ends up being Amar'e after his dunk in the layup line a few years ago.
And if that never happens we'll have to endure years of endless tears about how we passed on him.
It works both ways.
shtolky wrote:Dave DaButcher wrote:FWIW, per their model, Mikal scores well.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23771351/espn-draft-analytics-model-makes-nba-draft-projections
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19681478/most-likely-all-stars-starters-role-players-top-2017-nba-draft
Take a look at their projection for Mitchell. OBVIOUSLY he was the clear pick at 8 last year because everyone knew he would be a stud...or not.
Jay10 wrote:How does Carter Jr. and Bamba help the Knicks, if it forces Kristaps to defend on the perimeter where he struggles, due to his horrible lateral quickness?
Dave DaButcher wrote:shtolky wrote:Dave DaButcher wrote:FWIW, per their model, Mikal scores well.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23771351/espn-draft-analytics-model-makes-nba-draft-projections
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19681478/most-likely-all-stars-starters-role-players-top-2017-nba-draft
Take a look at their projection for Mitchell. OBVIOUSLY he was the clear pick at 8 last year because everyone knew he would be a stud...or not.
Well, they projected Frank to have the highest probability of becoming an All Star. So their methodology is clearly unassailable!
Dave DaButcher wrote:shtolky wrote:Dave DaButcher wrote:FWIW, per their model, Mikal scores well.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23771351/espn-draft-analytics-model-makes-nba-draft-projections
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19681478/most-likely-all-stars-starters-role-players-top-2017-nba-draft
Take a look at their projection for Mitchell. OBVIOUSLY he was the clear pick at 8 last year because everyone knew he would be a stud...or not.
Well, they projected Frank to have the highest probability of becoming an All Star. So their methodology is clearly unassailable!
earthmansurfer wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:
The hair gives him an edge. Our very own Fletch, 6‘8“ with the hair...
WajaBawl wrote:Jay10 wrote:How does Carter Jr. and Bamba help the Knicks, if it forces Kristaps to defend on the perimeter where he struggles, due to his horrible lateral quickness?
He didn't struggle because of poor lateral quickness. KP struggled with the perimeter because he constantly had to shift between protecting the paint, blocking shots and guarding opposing 4's. Kanter isn't a rim protector, nor is he known for his defense. Essentially KP dealt with the responsibilities of guarding his own man AND protecting the paint, while also carrying the offensive load on a talent-barred team. That takes a toll on anybody, yet he still managed to be one of the best rim protectors in the league.
Now imagine if he had an actual defensive presence behind him so he didn't have to block every single shot. He played well when he had a true center like Lopez next to him. I can't speak for Carters defense, but a guy like Bamba would make life so much easier for him.
GONYK wrote:newyorker4ever wrote:xNewYorkMadex wrote:Serious question, has there ever been a player in the league who had a good jumpshot w/ the style of hair Lonnie Walker has?
I just feel players develop poor mechanics w/ that type of hair. No funny shyt. Maybe im crazy for even saying that, but I just cant remember. Shump and Elfrid Payton come to mind w/ similar hair styles and they were trash hitting a 3.
Not even saying you need to have short hair to be a good 3pt shooter. But if you have type of haircut and try to shoot a 3, its gonna interfere w/ the proper shooting form.
I don't like the hair but it's not my biggest worry about Lonnie, my biggest worry is his jump shot. We need shooters on this team and shooters that will play D.
What's wrong with his shot?
His shot selection is trash, but his shot mechanics are great.
newyorker4ever wrote:GONYK wrote:newyorker4ever wrote:
I don't like the hair but it's not my biggest worry about Lonnie, my biggest worry is his jump shot. We need shooters on this team and shooters that will play D.
What's wrong with his shot?
His shot selection is trash, but his shot mechanics are great.
Mechanics might be good but his percentages weren't all that good.
GONYK wrote:newyorker4ever wrote:GONYK wrote:What's wrong with his shot?
His shot selection is trash, but his shot mechanics are great.
Mechanics might be good but his percentages weren't all that good.
Because of his shot selection
Jay10 wrote:WajaBawl wrote:Jay10 wrote:How does Carter Jr. and Bamba help the Knicks, if it forces Kristaps to defend on the perimeter where he struggles, due to his horrible lateral quickness?
He didn't struggle because of poor lateral quickness. KP struggled with the perimeter because he constantly had to shift between protecting the paint, blocking shots and guarding opposing 4's. Kanter isn't a rim protector, nor is he known for his defense. Essentially KP dealt with the responsibilities of guarding his own man AND protecting the paint, while also carrying the offensive load on a talent-barred team. That takes a toll on anybody, yet he still managed to be one of the best rim protectors in the league.
Now imagine if he had an actual defensive presence behind him so he didn't have to block every single shot. He played well when he had a true center like Lopez next to him. I can't speak for Carters defense, but a guy like Bamba would make life so much easier for him.
Kristaps has no business chasing behind small forwards and power forwards on the perimeter.
What are you going to do when Kristaps has to play the center position full-time if you draft a center?
Instead of wasting the pick on a center, just sign one in free agency.
DaGawd wrote:Jay10 wrote:WajaBawl wrote:
He didn't struggle because of poor lateral quickness. KP struggled with the perimeter because he constantly had to shift between protecting the paint, blocking shots and guarding opposing 4's. Kanter isn't a rim protector, nor is he known for his defense. Essentially KP dealt with the responsibilities of guarding his own man AND protecting the paint, while also carrying the offensive load on a talent-barred team. That takes a toll on anybody, yet he still managed to be one of the best rim protectors in the league.
Now imagine if he had an actual defensive presence behind him so he didn't have to block every single shot. He played well when he had a true center like Lopez next to him. I can't speak for Carters defense, but a guy like Bamba would make life so much easier for him.
Kristaps has no business chasing behind small forwards and power forwards on the perimeter.
What are you going to do when Kristaps has to play the center position full-time if you draft a center?
Instead of wasting the pick on a center, just sign one in free agency.
Stop it.
You're telling me if you had the chance to draft possibly a Rudy Gobert type C to play with KP you would pass on that because of "fit" on a team that needs pretty much any help it can get anywhere? Thats negligible
DaGawd wrote:Jay10 wrote:WajaBawl wrote:
He didn't struggle because of poor lateral quickness. KP struggled with the perimeter because he constantly had to shift between protecting the paint, blocking shots and guarding opposing 4's. Kanter isn't a rim protector, nor is he known for his defense. Essentially KP dealt with the responsibilities of guarding his own man AND protecting the paint, while also carrying the offensive load on a talent-barred team. That takes a toll on anybody, yet he still managed to be one of the best rim protectors in the league.
Now imagine if he had an actual defensive presence behind him so he didn't have to block every single shot. He played well when he had a true center like Lopez next to him. I can't speak for Carters defense, but a guy like Bamba would make life so much easier for him.
Kristaps has no business chasing behind small forwards and power forwards on the perimeter.
What are you going to do when Kristaps has to play the center position full-time if you draft a center?
Instead of wasting the pick on a center, just sign one in free agency.
Stop it.
You're telling me if you had the chance to draft possibly a Rudy Gobert type C to play with KP you would pass on that because of "fit" on a team that needs pretty much any help it can get anywhere? Thats negligible
WajaBawl wrote:Jay10 wrote:How does Carter Jr. and Bamba help the Knicks, if it forces Kristaps to defend on the perimeter where he struggles, due to his horrible lateral quickness?
He didn't struggle because of poor lateral quickness. KP struggled with the perimeter because he constantly had to shift between protecting the paint, blocking shots and guarding opposing 4's. Kanter isn't a rim protector, nor is he known for his defense. Essentially KP dealt with the responsibilities of guarding his own man AND protecting the paint, while also carrying the offensive load on a talent-barred team. That takes a toll on anybody, yet he still managed to be one of the best rim protectors in the league.
Now imagine if he had an actual defensive presence behind him so he didn't have to block every single shot. He played well when he had a true center like Lopez next to him. I can't speak for Carters defense, but a guy like Bamba would make life so much easier for him.
newyorker4ever wrote:GONYK wrote:newyorker4ever wrote:
Mechanics might be good but his percentages weren't all that good.
Because of his shot selection
So he made every good shot and missed his bad shots?
Jay10 wrote:DaGawd wrote:Jay10 wrote:
Kristaps has no business chasing behind small forwards and power forwards on the perimeter.
What are you going to do when Kristaps has to play the center position full-time if you draft a center?
Instead of wasting the pick on a center, just sign one in free agency.
Stop it.
You're telling me if you had the chance to draft possibly a Rudy Gobert type C to play with KP you would pass on that because of "fit" on a team that needs pretty much any help it can get anywhere? Thats negligible
What i'm saying is i would rather prefer Kristaps play the role on Rudy Gobert on the defensive end, and have the energy to be efficient on the offensive end, instead of chasing behind quicker players on the perimeter.
Kristaps looks like he walking on black ice when he's defending above the free throw line.
NoLayupRule wrote:WajaBawl wrote:Jay10 wrote:How does Carter Jr. and Bamba help the Knicks, if it forces Kristaps to defend on the perimeter where he struggles, due to his horrible lateral quickness?
He didn't struggle because of poor lateral quickness. KP struggled with the perimeter because he constantly had to shift between protecting the paint, blocking shots and guarding opposing 4's. Kanter isn't a rim protector, nor is he known for his defense. Essentially KP dealt with the responsibilities of guarding his own man AND protecting the paint, while also carrying the offensive load on a talent-barred team. That takes a toll on anybody, yet he still managed to be one of the best rim protectors in the league.
Now imagine if he had an actual defensive presence behind him so he didn't have to block every single shot. He played well when he had a true center like Lopez next to him. I can't speak for Carters defense, but a guy like Bamba would make life so much easier for him.
It’s like Fox News around here sometimes
This fallacy about Kp being a terrible lateral mover is such bs. He’s very strong defending wings on switches or picks largely because he doesn’t overcompensate and try to match foot speed. Instead he uses his length to disrupt shots or to recover and block.
But some fans really truly don’t know anything about this game and only see the mismatches that are effective. They can’t see the ones that get covered. Or the other 80% of the game that’s not jumpers and dunks.