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Hot Topic - Quite Frankly; All Things Frank

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What should the Knicks approach be with Frank

Try to develop until prime years (~26) - essentially hold until it's 100% clear what he is
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30%
Hold and try to develop until the end of rookie contract
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Hold until season's end/middle of next season to make a decision
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9%
Look to trade him now for assets and/or a salary dump
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15%
Other
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3%
 
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Re: Hot Topic - Quite Frankly; All Things Frank 

Post#1481 » by 21 Hussle » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:20 pm

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Re: Hot Topic - Quite Frankly; All Things Frank 

Post#1482 » by BeagleBoss » Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:01 pm

Sadly, I'm still not a big fan or high on Ntilikina. Just don't see much there so far. He has a place in this league as a decent bench player if he stays healthy and continues to work on his jumper. He'll always have a place in this league with his defense but I don't think those Jrue and baby Giannis expectations will ever happen.

I kind of hoped we kept Matthews. He'd be a perfect mentor for Ntilikina with his ability to get shots off lacking bursting speed and athleticism and being able to use his size down low in the post.
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Re: Hot Topic - Quite Frankly; All Things Frank 

Post#1483 » by Galou » Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:11 pm

Ayo.

Whoever posted videos of this guy, thanks. I like his videos and this one came out today which i agree with. He apologize just like i did because he wants to see Frank be great. He called Kristaps a snake which i totally agree with

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Re: Hot Topic - Quite Frankly; All Things Frank 

Post#1484 » by BKAY » Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:28 pm

Think DSJ will be beneficial for Frank. The things he does when it comes to driving are things I think Frank can replicate and learn from. Much different from Mudiay imo, Mudiay is just out of control at all times and flailing and contorting his way to some body-twisting acrobatic layup attempt. Not much you can learn from that. I like what Smith does when it comes to pick actions and his driving style is more: find a lane and drive hard and straight up to the hoop. Something that Frank can hopefully pick up.
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Re: Hot Topic - Quite Frankly; All Things Frank 

Post#1485 » by prophet_of_rage » Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:47 pm

Galou wrote:Ayo.

Whoever posted videos of this guy, thanks. I like his videos and this one came out today which i agree with. He apologize just like i did because he wants to see Frank be great. He called Kristaps a snake which i totally agree with

Wait qhen I posted him going at Frank y'all were like 'You can tell his breath hot!', but now he's cool? Man, y'all go back forth back and forth like Aaliyah!

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Re: Hot Topic - Quite Frankly; All Things Frank 

Post#1486 » by Galou » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:10 pm

prophet_of_rage wrote:
Galou wrote:Ayo.

Whoever posted videos of this guy, thanks. I like his videos and this one came out today which i agree with. He apologize just like i did because he wants to see Frank be great. He called Kristaps a snake which i totally agree with

Wait qhen I posted him going at Frank y'all were like 'You can tell his breath hot!', but now he's cool? Man, y'all go back forth back and forth like Aaliyah!

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I remember that quote but that wasnt me that said that. That was funny tho
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Re: Hot Topic - Quite Frankly; All Things Frank 

Post#1487 » by BLACKFEET 2010 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:57 pm

So.....the Magic offered a second round pick for Frank.

LeSigh.
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Re: Hot Topic - Quite Frankly; All Things Frank 

Post#1488 » by GONYK » Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:33 pm

BLACKFEET 2010 wrote:So.....the Magic offered a second round pick for Frank.

LeSigh.

We were right to reject them then
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Re: Hot Topic - Quite Frankly; All Things Frank 

Post#1489 » by BLACKFEET 2010 » Fri Feb 15, 2019 3:27 am

GONYK wrote:
BLACKFEET 2010 wrote:So.....the Magic offered a second round pick for Frank.

LeSigh.

We were right to reject them then

Of course but damn, that’s what they think Frank’s worth? Fultz got a first and valuable expiring guy in Simmons.
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Re: Hot Topic - Quite Frankly; All Things Frank 

Post#1490 » by Garbagelo » Fri Feb 15, 2019 3:41 am

BLACKFEET 2010 wrote:So.....the Magic offered a second round pick for Frank.

LeSigh.


clearly out of revenge for Scott Perry playing their their heads last year over Elfrid Payton
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Re: Hot Topic - Quite Frankly; All Things Frank 

Post#1491 » by Fat Kat » Fri Feb 15, 2019 4:23 am

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Re: Hot Topic - Quite Frankly; All Things Frank 

Post#1492 » by GONYK » Fri Feb 15, 2019 4:34 am

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Great to hear.

The kid has a fantastic work ethic.
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Re: [Article] Frank speaks on our new backcourt 

Post#1493 » by rajajackal » Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:35 pm

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rajajackal wrote:i watched the dallas game at MSG the night before kp was traded to them. my girlfriend very kindly decided she wanted to buy me a jersey at the gift shop. she asks me if i wanted porzingis since i'm always talking about him, but i was like nah i **** with frank ntilikina harder

:]

Smart choice.


i have never seen a frank ntilikina jersey anywhere other than on frank ntilikina.


lmao

i've wanted one since he was drafted. can't explain why i ride so hard for the kid but i just really get the feeling that if we ever saw the promised land or anywhere close to it, he'd be the sort of player i really loved on the roster
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Re: [Article] Frank speaks on our new backcourt 

Post#1494 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun Feb 17, 2019 3:08 pm

If Joe Harris can do it, then I say “so can Frank.”

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Re: [Article] Frank speaks on our new backcourt 

Post#1495 » by Cookies4Life » Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:06 pm

People need to relax with this kid. He's younger than Money Mitch.

He was looking like a demon defensively before he had that groin injury. I get people's frustrations with his inefficiency at the offensive end but when a guy puts up 2 FGA's one game and 6 or 7 the next and it continues in that low volume cycle, you can't expect much productivity on the offensive end, at least not consistently.

Look at the weirdos he's been playing with all season (goodbye THJ!) and how inefficient they've all been playing. Once this team brings in better talent and continues to learn how to play team ball, I think Frank's offensive production will improve. I'd like to see him get 30 mpg and take at minimum 10 shots per game. I can't see him producing much worse than some of our other high volume scorers if given the FGA opportunities.

I still see him more than a 3 and d guy; he just has a slower learning curve right now than other 2nd year players. His defensive ability already is elite, he just needs to keep chipping away at improving different facets to his game offensively. He's already improved a decent amount from last year- he's improved his ballhandling (tightened it up much more this season,) and has shown he can get into the paint against his defender without a screen being mandatorily set for him. Increments here, he's still a very young player.
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Re: [Article] Frank speaks on our new backcourt 

Post#1496 » by ozwizard8 » Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:23 pm

blueNorange wrote:dsj/frank a new age bibby/christie. :nod:

Zion --> Chris Webber

Hezonja-->Hedo
Knox--> Peja
Mudiay --> Bobby Jackson

We only miss Divac.
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Re: [Article] Frank speaks on our new backcourt 

Post#1497 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:42 pm

I'm all for getting a look at a Frank/DSJr backcourt, but I've already seen what it looks like.

It looks like the minutes that Kadeem Allen and DSJr have gotten together. Not a ton, but they've been out there together a few times.

And I'm a fan of Frank, and also, I think it's just reasonable to give him another year, if only because if he can add some offense to his defense, that's a nice rotational player. Also the sort that fits in well with star scorers (same w/ Kadeem)

But let's be honest, for these last 25 games, while the Knicks SHOULD feature DSJr and Frank together and probably will (who really knows with Fiz, tbh), again, we know what it looks like.

It looks like Kadeem\DSJr, only not as good, as Kadeem, with 6 more years of age, is better at being aggressive, getting into the lane, is a good passer himself and his shot is good/decent in the short/mid and longer range.

So, it'll be the same thing, only with less shot making and less breaking down the D from Frank.

Also, if there's anything that might be good about pairing the two, other than brief glimpses of how it might work when the both click (but particularly Frank) is if there was enough movement to run DSJr around some, while Frank was the more primary distributor on those possessions. But Fiz's offense lacks movement, other than some curls for Dotson and once in a blue Knox, so I what I expect to see is DSJr with the ball in his hands 90% of the time (instead of 50 or 60%) breaking down the D, Frank's guy shading off him into the paint, Frank getting the ball, which the defense wants - like when LFT gets it a lot, and Frank missing the open jumper.

Might as well. The reps will help Frank, DSJr should continue to get off the ball training as well, this situation should assist whichever one of them isn't traded in the offseason after Kyrie signs.
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Re: [Article] Frank speaks on our new backcourt 

Post#1498 » by Knicksfan20 » Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:49 pm

KnicksChamps wrote:How can you not root for the kid?


When he is on the Pelicans.
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Re: [Article] Frank speaks on our new backcourt 

Post#1499 » by Jeff Van Gully » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:15 pm

ozwizard8 wrote:
blueNorange wrote:dsj/frank a new age bibby/christie. :nod:

Zion --> Chris Webber

Hezonja-->Hedo
Knox--> Peja
Mudiay --> Bobby Jackson

We only miss Divac.


i'll take mitch's ceiling over vlade's in the current NBA.

i loooooved vlade as a player his whole career. no slight there.
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Re: [Article] Frank speaks on our new backcourt 

Post#1500 » by Jeff Van Gully » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:20 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:If Joe Harris can do it, then I say “so can Frank.”

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i think the lesson is not to give up on players too early.

to be fair, joe harris' shooting skills were expected from UVA. he has become a complete player over time.

frank's shooting was always inconsistent, but improving. it's possible with time he can become the complete, swiss army knife big guard we'd hoped. it's also possible he doesn't. hard to have patience, i suppose.

i wish i could say frank got a consistent opportunity to play in a consistent role, but he hasn't. i hope we don't throw him out unless we absolutely need to in a big deal. that goes for pretty much all of the youth. i'd look to supplement them with key cheap vet mentors who also want to win, like that 2012-13 crew.

the problem with that is we literally assembled the last of a dying breed there. i'm not sure who even fits that mold right now.
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