BaF Season 4- Opening Night 12/1- (Announcement page 57)

Post #1481 » by **mpharris36** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:26 pm

Joel Embiid- Brooklyn Nets- 4 stars
Rudy Gobert- New York Knicks- 4 stars
Nikola Jokic- Dallas Mavericks- 4 stars

vs

Hassan Whiteside- Orlando Magic- 4.5 stars

how does someone working at wolverine studious be like they all play the same position and whiteside is clearly the worst of the 4 (he is still unsigned) but he is better then 2 all-stars and 1 defensive player of the year?

bringbackhoffa · Post #1482 » by **bringbackhoffa** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:27 pm

Smash3 wrote:Philly robots pulled up on Wolverine studio exec:

I'm a fan of Collins so I'm not mad, before I made the trade with you I tried trading siakam straight up for Collins

Post #1483 » by **Manhattan Project** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:28 pm

Russell being a 3.5 don't even seem good after seeing some of these ratings. Need Love to come through with a solid rating to make the starting lineup complete.

bringbackhoffa · Post #1484 » by **bringbackhoffa** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:28 pm

mpharris36 wrote:Joel Embiid- Brooklyn Nets- 4 stars
Rudy Gobert- New York Knicks- 4 stars
Nikola Jokic- Dallas Mavericks- 4 stars

vs

Hassan Whiteside- Orlando Magic- 4.5 stars

how does someone working at wolverine studious be like they all play the same position and whiteside is clearly the worst of the 4 (he is still unsigned) but he is better then 2 all-stars and 1 defensive player of the year?

Probably has to do with the Blocks algorithm

Post #1485 » by **King of Canada** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:29 pm

bringbackhoffa wrote:
Smash3 wrote:Philly robots pulled up on Wolverine studio exec:

I'm a fan of Collins so I'm not mad, before I made the trade with you I tried trading siakam straight up for Collins

I considered offering Zion for him, but the pieces just didn't make sense, and I'd probably end up losing out on years of control in the end

Post #1486 » by **mpharris36** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:31 pm

bringbackhoffa wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:Joel Embiid- Brooklyn Nets- 4 stars
Rudy Gobert- New York Knicks- 4 stars
Nikola Jokic- Dallas Mavericks- 4 stars

vs

Hassan Whiteside- Orlando Magic- 4.5 stars

how does someone working at wolverine studious be like they all play the same position and whiteside is clearly the worst of the 4 (he is still unsigned) but he is better then 2 all-stars and 1 defensive player of the year?

Probably has to do with the Blocks algorithm

Mitch should be a 5.0 then if its a FG%, Blockers algorithm.

I'm also for outliers and he is a great study because he is a stat wise very productive in his limited minutes...but there needs to be some manual correction to adjust the algorithm when there is a clear issue with it.

I'm not debating positions either because I understand that can be tricky. But Whiteside isn't in either of the 3 players stratosphere...that has to change.

El Poochio · Post #1487 » by **El Poochio** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:33 pm

NewEra wrote:
El Poochio wrote:Xmas came early lol

If I was EZ this would be my thoughts exactly. That John Collins rating

John Collins in Wolverine Studios:

bishnykfan · Post #1488 » by **bishnykfan** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:34 pm

2020-21 BaF ratings

Luka Doncic- Indiana Pacers- 5 stars
Karl-Anthony Towns- Indiana Pacers- 5 stars
Russell Westbrook- Memphis Grizzlies- 5 stars

Bam Adabayo- Cleveland Cavaliers- 4.5 stars
De'Andre Ayton- Cleveland Cavaliers- 4.5 stars
Steph Curry- Atlanta Hawks- 4.5 stars
Domantas Sabonis- Golden State Warriors- 4.5 stars

Andre Drummond- Denver Nuggets- 4 stars
Pascal Siakam- Portland Trailblazers- 4 stars

Lonzo Ball- Philadelphia 76ers- 3.5 stars
Jaylen Brown- Sacramento Kings- 3.5 stars
Clint Capela- Charlotte Hornets- 3.5 stars
Brandon Clarke- Philadelphia 76ers- 3.5 stars
Tobias Harris- Miami Heat- 3.5 stars
Gordon Hayward- Utah Jazz- 3.5 stars
Tyler Herro- Detroit Pistons- 3.5 stars
Jonathan Isaac- Sacramento Kings- 3.5 stars
Kevin Love- Utah Jazz- 3.5 stars
Victor Oladipo- Brooklyn Nets- 3.5 stars
Chris Paul- Phoenix Suns- 3.5 stars
Jonas Valanciunas- Chicago Bulls- 3.5 stars

Jarrett Allen- Portland Trailblazers- 3 stars
RJ Barrett- Phoenix Suns- 3 stars
Will Barton- Chicago Bulls- 3 stars
Miles Bridges- Philadelphia 76ers- 3 stars
Dillon Brooks- Golden State Warriors- 3 stars
Troy Brown Jr.- Cleveland Cavaliers- 3 stars
Wendell Carter Jr.- Atlanta Hawks- 3 stars
Anthony Edwards- Charlotte Hornets- 3 stars
Evan Fournier- Atlanta Hawks- 3 stars
Markelle Fultz- Sacramento Kings- 3 stars
Danilo Gallinari- Houston Rockets- 3 stars
Kevin Huerter- Houston Rockets- 3 stars
Jaren Jackson Jr.- Charlotte Hornets- 3 stars
Luke Kennard- Toronto Raptors- 3 stars
Lauri Markkanen- Milwaukee Bucks- 3 stars
Marcus Morris Sr.- Milwaukee Bucks- 3 stars
Kendrick Nunn- Phoenix Suns- 3 stars
Eric Paschall- Washington Wizards- 3 stars
Michael Porter Jr.- San Antonio Spurs- 3 stars
Mitchell Robinson- Detroit Pistons- 3 stars
Derrick Rose- Charlotte Hornets- 3 stars
Terry Rozier- Chicago Bulls- 3 stars
Marcus Smart- Milwaukee Bucks- 3 stars
Obi Toppin- Detroit Pistons- 3 stars
PJ Washington- Houston Rockets- 3 stars
Andrew Wiggins- Orlando Magic- 3 stars
Lou Williams- Golden State Warriors- 3 stars

bishnykfan wrote:2020-21 BaF ratings

Giannis Antetokounmpo- Dallas Mavericks- 5 stars
John Collins- Philadelphia 76ers- 5 stars
Anthony Davis- New Orleans Pelicans- 5 stars
Kevin Durant- Portland Trailblazers- 5 stars
James Harden- Miami Heat- 5 stars
LeBron James- Toronto Raptors- 5 stars
Kawhi Leonard- Chicago Bulls- 5 stars
Ben Simmons- Oklahoma City Thunder- 5 stars
Jayson Tatum- Cleveland Cavaliers- 5 stars
Trae Young- New Orleans Pelicans- 5 stars

Bradley Beal- Utah Jazz- 4.5 stars
Devin Booker- New York Knicks- 4.5 stars
Kyrie Irving- Los Angeles Clippers- 4.5 stars
Damian Lillard- Brooklyn Nets- 4.5 stars
Hassan Whiteside- Orlando Magic- 4.5 stars

Jimmy Butler- Milwaukee Bucks- 4 stars
DeMar DeRozan- Portland Trailblazers- 4 stars
Joel Embiid- Brooklyn Nets- 4 stars
De'Aaron Fox- Houston Rockets- 4 stars
Rudy Gobert- New York Knicks- 4 stars
Brandon Ingram- Charlotte Hornets- 4 stars
Nikola Jokic- Dallas Mavericks- 4 stars
Kyle Lowry- Portland Trailblazers- 4 stars
Donovan Mitchell- Indiana Pacers- 4 stars
Jamal Murray- Cleveland Cavaliers- 4 stars
Kristaps Porzingis- Denver Nuggets- 4 stars
Nikola Vucevic- Washington Wizards- 4 stars

LaMarcus Aldridge- Charlotte Hornets- 3.5 stars
LaMelo Ball- Detroit Pistons- 3.5 stars
Paul George- New Orleans Pelicans- 3.5 stars
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander- Los Angeles Clippers- 3.5 stars
Devonte Graham- Denver Nuggets- 3.5 stars
Montrezl Harrell- Chicago Bulls- 3.5 stars
Jrue Holiday- Dallas Mavericks- 3.5 stars
Zach LaVine- Cleveland Cavaliers- 3.5 stars
CJ McCollum- Philadelphia 76ers- 3.5 stars
Khris Middleton- Los Angeles Clippers- 3.5 stars
Ja Morant- Charlotte Hornets- 3.5 stars
Julius Randle- Cleveland Cavaliers- 3.5 stars
D'Angelo Russell- Utah Jazz- 3.5 stars
Fred VanVleet- Washington Wizards- 3.5 stars
John Wall- Golden State Warriors- 3.5 stars
Zion Williamson- Indiana Pacers- 3.5 stars
James Wiseman- San Antonio Spurs- 3.5 stars

Stephen Adams- Golden State Warriors- 3 stars
Carmelo Anthony- Indiana Pacers- 3 stars
Eric Bledsoe- Chicago Bulls- 3 stars
Bojan Bogdanovich- Washington Wizards- 3 stars
Malcolm Brogdon- Miami Heat- 3 stars
Thomas Bryant- Orlando Magic- 3 stars
DeMarcus Cousins- Toronto Raptors- 3 stars
Robert Covington- Utah Jazz- 3 stars
Spencer Dinwiddie- Golden State Warriors- 3 stars
Aaron Gordon- Orlando Magic- 3 stars
Draymond Green- Chicago Bulls- 3 stars
Buddy Hield- Phoenix Suns- 3 stars
Richaun Holmes- Los Angeles Clippers- 3 stars
Al Horford- Milwaukee Bucks- 3 stars
Serge Ibaka- Minnesota Timberwolves- 3 stars
Caris LeVert- Brooklyn Nets- 3 stars
Brook Lopez- Sacramento Kings- 3 stars
Dejounte Murray- Minnesota Timberwolves- 3 stars
Kelly Oubre Jr.- Denver Nuggets- 3 stars
Elfrid Payton- Washington Wizards- 3 stars
Norman Powell- Portland Trailblazers- 3 stars
Ricky Rubio- Portland Trailblazers- 3 stars
Dennis Schroder- Denver Nuggets- 3 stars
Collin Sexton- Orlando Magic- 3 stars
Klay Thompson- Memphis Grizzlies- 3 stars
Tristan Thompson- Minnesota Timberwolves- 3 stars
Kemba Walker- Sacramento Kings- 3 stars
TJ Warren- Portland Trailblazers- 3 stars

NewEra · Post #1489 » by **NewEra** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:35 pm

After everything that transpired with BK and Kfan20, I’m sending an additional contact to Bish just in case. This board is like a virtual family. I’d hate to know that something happened and nobody knows what to make of it (as in BK’s situation). Everyone doesn’t have to do it, but I think it’s a good idea to avoid some of the issues we ran into this off-season.

bringbackhoffa · Post #1490 » by **bringbackhoffa** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:35 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
bringbackhoffa wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:Joel Embiid- Brooklyn Nets- 4 stars
Rudy Gobert- New York Knicks- 4 stars
Nikola Jokic- Dallas Mavericks- 4 stars

vs

Hassan Whiteside- Orlando Magic- 4.5 stars

how does someone working at wolverine studious be like they all play the same position and whiteside is clearly the worst of the 4 (he is still unsigned) but he is better then 2 all-stars and 1 defensive player of the year?

Probably has to do with the Blocks algorithm

Mitch should be a 5.0 then if its a FG%, Blockers algorithm.

I'm also for outliers and he is a great study because he is a stat wise very productive in his limited minutes...but there needs to be some manual correction to adjust the algorithm when there is a clear issue with it.

I'm not debating positions either because I understand that can be tricky. But Whiteside isn't in either of the 3 players stratosphere...that has to change.

I'm against manual adjustments. Some ratings will work on your favor some won't. For instance Brooklyn benefited from Faried being on God mode last year and this year has his work cut out for him with Embiid

bishnykfan · Post #1491 » by **bishnykfan** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:38 pm

Think I got them all now...but don't quote me on it. I'm going to try and get all the rotations in today so I can post the ratings on the team pages at least a few days before opening night. Less than a week to go!

bringbackhoffa · Post #1492 » by **bringbackhoffa** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:38 pm

Ohh they also did spicy p dirty..

Strick · Post #1493 » by **Strick** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:40 pm

I was really scared I’d see Jarrett Allen at a 4+ star after some of these ratings so that makes me feel a little better. I’m really interested to see the OG rating

Post #1494 » by **mpharris36** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:40 pm

CLE eating good

5 star

and

two 4.5 stars

and
one 4 star

well damn'

glad I traded that pick :lol:

Post #1495 » by **mpharris36** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:42 pm

Boston and Lakers only teams without a single 3 star?

Post #1496 » by **mpharris36** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:44 pm

Michael Porter Jr.- San Antonio Spurs- 3 stars

Smash3 · Post #1497 » by **Smash3** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:44 pm

bringbackhoffa · Post #1498 » by **bringbackhoffa** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:45 pm

Derrick Rose - 3 star

El Poochio · Post #1499 » by **El Poochio** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:45 pm

Strick wrote:I was really scared I’d see Jarrett Allen at a 4+ star after some of these ratings so that makes me feel a little better. I’m really interested to see the OG rating

OG max 2.5 stars confirmed

Strick · Post #1500 » by **Strick** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:46 pm

Troy Brown Jr at a 3 star has me a bit confused :lol:

Admittedly I haven’t watched a ton of him since Oregon