Around the NBA - 2024-25 Season Continued - First post updated!

[MrDollarBills]

Sounds familiar except our PG isn't much of a defender. :0

Isiah
Dumas/Vinnie Johnson
Rodman
Aguirre
Laimbeer

That's the real Pistons team

John Salley, James Edwards, Rick Mahorn

Imagine hooping and you get hard fouled by one of those dudes. I've seen Rick Mahorn in person. I would need a .357 at a minimum to walk away from a fight like that alive.

I dunno how Jordan kept his sanity. But then again, he's a psychopath so he probably got off on that stuff

[MrDollarBills]

Those 80s/90s era Pistons team always had good depth, adding in John Salley or James Edwards and others.

And Isiah Thomas is one of the least appreciated superstars of all time, as a player.

I'm giving the edge to the older team, but not by a lot.

Yeah Zeke is the best player for sure between the two groups. People forget how much of a beast he was especially barely being 6 feet.

Billups to me was criminally underrated too.

I'm trying to remember who the Pistons 04 had on their bench without looking it up, and i can't. So yeah, I guess the Bad Boys win by depth.

They're kind of similar teams in some ways. What I like about the 2004 Pistons in this matchup is they have the piece to stop the head of the snake AND a guy who can bully Laimbeer back. But do they have enough offense? Sheed's performance makes or breaks the series IMO.

Also, I looked up the Pistons stats from that year and was stunned they were only taking 12 3s per game. Near the bottom. I guess Rip didn't shoot as many as I figured. A lot of long twos. That team had the personnel to do a lot more damage with the long ball.

I barely remember Rip shooting threes. He was deadly on those curl plays around the foul line/top of the key. Rip was a less stronger, athletic, more dirtier version of DeMar DeRozan (Dwayne Wade went into detail about how he used to dig his purposely long finger nails into people's arms).

Ben Wallace and Bill Laimbeer would have gotten into a fight and Bill would have gotten his ass beat I vaguely remember when Larry Bird had to teach Bill a lesson, so Ben would probably have killed him despite being smaller.

Chauncey was a great player but I think Isiah would still have been able to do some damage, but good luck driving into that paint versus Sheed and Ben.

Offensively yeah. If Sheed was in the mood to kill you it would be a long night. Some games you could tell Sheed just wanted to get it over with.

04 had better shooters but the Bad Boys had some legit bucket getters.

[Spree2Houston]

My own personal suggestion to fix the current product would be award only 2 fts on fouled three-pointers and 3 fts on fouled 2-pointers inside the perimeter. This will encourage teams to attack the paint more and become less reliant on 3s.

[MrDollarBills]

Next to Steph and Reggie, Rip might be the most elite off the ball mover in the league's history. Rip was even more hyped than Kobe was early on in high school from what I remember. Bean whupped that ass though

[Capn'O]

I barely remember Rip shooting threes. He was deadly on those curl plays around the foul line/top of the key. Rip was a less stronger, athletic, more dirtier version of DeMar DeRozan (Dwayne Wade went into detail about how he used to dig his purposely long finger nails into people's arms).

You're right. I just think of him as an extension of Reggie Miller due to all his off-ball movement but he wasn't the three point shooter Reggie was. Of all the "he would be better today" BS arguments, Rip actually would be because coaches would put all those long twos a few steps back.

[MrDollarBills]

I barely remember Rip shooting threes. He was deadly on those curl plays around the foul line/top of the key. Rip was a less stronger, athletic, more dirtier version of DeMar DeRozan (Dwayne Wade went into detail about how he used to dig his purposely long finger nails into people's arms).

You're right. I just think of him as an extension of Reggie Miller due to all his off-ball movement but he wasn't the three point shooter Reggie was. Of all the "he would be better today" BS arguments, Rip actually would be because coaches would put all those long twos a few steps back.

Yeah I can't see Rip being the same player if he came up in today's hoop culture. They would have had him shooting threes. there's a beauty to his game that will never be recaptured.

To circle back to the present day topic, I don't think it's bad per say to focus on the deep ball, but how many easy buckets are guys leaving on the floor because they pass up an open J by the foul line?

[WaltFrazier]

My own personal suggestion to fix the current product would be award only 2 fts on fouled three-pointers and 3 fts on fouled 2-pointers inside the perimeter. This will encourage teams to attack the paint more and become less reliant on 3s.

Made me think about the NBA's old three to make two rule in the penalty, in the 60s and 70s

[HEZI]

I barely remember Rip shooting threes. He was deadly on those curl plays around the foul line/top of the key. Rip was a less stronger, athletic, more dirtier version of DeMar DeRozan (Dwayne Wade went into detail about how he used to dig his purposely long finger nails into people's arms).

You're right. I just think of him as an extension of Reggie Miller due to all his off-ball movement but he wasn't the three point shooter Reggie was. Of all the "he would be better today" BS arguments, Rip actually would be because coaches would put all those long twos a few steps back.

Yeah I can't see Rip being the same player if he came up in today's hoop culture. They would have had him shooting threes. there's a beauty to his game that will never be recaptured.

To circle back to the present day topic, I don't think it's bad per say to focus on the deep ball, but how many easy buckets are guys leaving on the floor because they pass up an open J by the foul line?

Nothing is worse than seeing a 3 on 1 fastbreak and they just pull up for a step back 3

I was all for the game evolving and guys expanding beyond the 3 point line but it’s gotten out of hand now where they just spam 3s.

[JayTWill]

iHart vs Goga tonight
My dream center rotation last off-season

[Galvationknicks]

48-19 1st quarter jazz over pistons
Wtf?

[HarthorneWingo]

Suggs goes down with left ankle sprain.

[MrDollarBills]

You're right. I just think of him as an extension of Reggie Miller due to all his off-ball movement but he wasn't the three point shooter Reggie was. Of all the "he would be better today" BS arguments, Rip actually would be because coaches would put all those long twos a few steps back.

Yeah I can't see Rip being the same player if he came up in today's hoop culture. They would have had him shooting threes. there's a beauty to his game that will never be recaptured.

To circle back to the present day topic, I don't think it's bad per say to focus on the deep ball, but how many easy buckets are guys leaving on the floor because they pass up an open J by the foul line?

Nothing is worse than seeing a 3 on 1 fastbreak and they just pull up for a step back 3

I was all for the game evolving and guys expanding beyond the 3 point line but it’s gotten out of hand now where they just spam 3s.

The mind set on a fast break should be that the ball handler should be looking to drive in for a lay up, and if the defender commits, you pass to your lane runner for an easy score.

Now if Steph Curry or Dame Lillard is pulling up, well, who am I to say that's a bad shot? They're elite shooters.

Someone who isn't though? Drive to the rim and make the defense make a decision. I hate bailing out defenses. Make them react.

[MrDollarBills]

48-19 1st quarter jazz over pistons
Wtf?

Another amazing night in Adam Silver's NBA

[MrDollarBills]

I don't think that 3 point shots should be hindered or legislated out of the game. I just wish teams, players, coaches, and trainers would regain some creativity. Basketball can be much more fun than just 3 point spamming.

"We wanna get up as many threes as possible."

And I might wanna go to sleep or change the channel

[JayTWill]

Did the Magic coach pull Suggs from the game to protect him from further injury? That's an option????

[HarthorneWingo]

Did the Magic coach pull Suggs from the game to protect him from further injury? That's an option????

Is this game really that important? They were losing with Suggs.

[HarthorneWingo]

I don't think that 3 point shots should be hindered or legislated out of the game. I just wish teams, players, coaches, and trainers would regain some creativity. Basketball can be much more fun than just 3 point spamming.

"We wanna get up as many threes as possible."

And I might wanna go to sleep or change the channel

I’m a proponent of moving it back and tapering it off and the sidelines thereby eliminating the corner 3.

[JayTWill]

Did the Magic coach pull Suggs from the game to protect him from further injury? That's an option????

Is this game really that important? They were losing with Suggs.

I just can't imagine Thibs doing that in any situation.

[MrDollarBills]

I don't think that 3 point shots should be hindered or legislated out of the game. I just wish teams, players, coaches, and trainers would regain some creativity. Basketball can be much more fun than just 3 point spamming.

"We wanna get up as many threes as possible."

And I might wanna go to sleep or change the channel

I’m a proponent of moving it back and tapering it off and the sidelines thereby eliminating the corner 3.

Moving the line back might help but I disagree about the corner 3. I think the degree of difficulty on the shot makes it worth keeping in the game.

[HarthorneWingo]

I don't think that 3 point shots should be hindered or legislated out of the game. I just wish teams, players, coaches, and trainers would regain some creativity. Basketball can be much more fun than just 3 point spamming.

"We wanna get up as many threes as possible."

And I might wanna go to sleep or change the channel

I’m a proponent of moving it back and tapering it off and the sidelines thereby eliminating the corner 3.

Moving the line back might help but I disagree about the corner 3. I think the degree of difficulty on the shot makes it worth keeping in the game.

Im willing to make that compromise.