Me7o Thread: Hoodie edition

[GONYK]

I agree. And the people who are so certain he's going to opt out are basing it off what they want to see happen and not Melo's history or mentality.

Like I said before...buying him out if he is here and opts in...is miles better than taking Ryan Anderson. Also...he would risk being stuck here with his career on the downside when he wants to chase a ring. Just like ALL of his boys are doing. He's got plenty of money. He wants to win. Does anyone in the world think this team will be in the ECF or beyond in the next 2 years? He's not getting a max here either.

We also will be capped out with Melo here so...good luck adding to that if he thinks we could win. Just like the last 6 years. Remember THAT history? I bet he does.

If Melo wants to play chicken with his career...he'll stay and opt in and keep trying to squeeze this franchise for every dime. His legacy will be money over winning. His next contract could be a joke because of it. He could risk injury playing on a capped out, treadmill team. He will be blasted in the media. Will he want that? He'll expand his list before he goes through that.

We will see what happens. That's just the way I see it right now. Speculation is fun!

I would take Ryan Anderson and a 1st over Melo opting in and then just buying him out

Anderson could become a big expiring contract with some value that could eventually be moved for an asset after the next 2 years of his contract

Expiring contracts are only good for taking on longer deals. What kind of value is that?

And a Houston 1st is basically a 2nd. There isn't enough value there.

[NYKnicksTAPE]

Like I said before...buying him out if he is here and opts in...is miles better than taking Ryan Anderson. Also...he would risk being stuck here with his career on the downside when he wants to chase a ring. Just like ALL of his boys are doing. He's got plenty of money. He wants to win. Does anyone in the world think this team will be in the ECF or beyond in the next 2 years? He's not getting a max here either.

We also will be capped out with Melo here so...good luck adding to that if he thinks we could win. Just like the last 6 years. Remember THAT history? I bet he does.

If Melo wants to play chicken with his career...he'll stay and opt in and keep trying to squeeze this franchise for every dime. His legacy will be money over winning. His next contract could be a joke because of it. He could risk injury playing on a capped out, treadmill team. He will be blasted in the media. Will he want that? He'll expand his list before he goes through that.

We will see what happens. That's just the way I see it right now. Speculation is fun!

I would take Ryan Anderson and a 1st over Melo opting in and then just buying him out

Anderson could become a big expiring contract with some value that could eventually be moved for an asset after the next 2 years of his contract

You pay to move a salary dump. Not a smart risk to take at all. It's literally the worst thing we could do. It is a bad contract no matter how many years are left. We don't need him at all. He would be exponentially worse for a rebuild than an expiring Melo next year. Horrible idea.

How many teams are attaching assets to move an expiring contract? How would he be exponentially worse for a rebuild than Melo next year? Explain.

We don't need Melo here either, and we clearly don't want him. Anderson also wouldn't come with all the distractions and extra dysfunction that having Melo on the roster for the next 2 years would. He wouldn't take touches away from KP and Timmy like Melo would. The organization could finally just move on and focus on developing the young core and building a culture. I would definitely take Ryan Anderson and a 1st over Melo opting in and being here for 2 more years. I would take 2 years of Anderson and then trying to deal him as an expiring plus a 1st over 2 years of Melo and the distractions, dysfunction, and circus environment that him still being here could cause.

[GONYK]

I would take Ryan Anderson and a 1st over Melo opting in and then just buying him out

Anderson could become a big expiring contract with some value that could eventually be moved for an asset after the next 2 years of his contract

You pay to move a salary dump. Not a smart risk to take at all. It's literally the worst thing we could do. It is a bad contract no matter how many years are left. We don't need him at all. He would be exponentially worse for a rebuild than an expiring Melo next year. Horrible idea.

How many teams are attaching assets to move an expiring contract? How would he be exponentially worse for a rebuild than Melo next year? Explain.

We don't need Melo here either, and we clearly don't want him. Anderson also wouldn't come with all the distractions and extra dysfunction that having Melo on the roster for the next 2 years would. He wouldn't take touches away from KP and Timmy like Melo would. The organization could finally just move on and focus on developing the young core and building a culture. I would definitely take Ryan Anderson and a 1st over Melo opting in and being here for 2 more years. I would take 2 years of Anderson and then trying to deal him as an expiring plus a 1st over 2 years of Melo and the distractions, dysfunction, and circus environment that him still being here could cause.

This is all rationalization for moving an asset at a loss.

If Houston wants him, Houston needs to pay. It should be that simple.

Melo's value far exceeds Anderson and a 1st.

What is the rush to move him? It's not like he's hated the locker room.

We need to move Melo because we're afraid Isola will write mean things?

Melo will play the way we want him to, or he won't play big minutes. Guys want to make a bad deal instead of exerting proper organizational management.

[NYKAL]

You pay to move a salary dump. Not a smart risk to take at all. It's literally the worst thing we could do. It is a bad contract no matter how many years are left. We don't need him at all. He would be exponentially worse for a rebuild than an expiring Melo next year. Horrible idea.

How many teams are attaching assets to move an expiring contract? How would he be exponentially worse for a rebuild than Melo next year? Explain.

We don't need Melo here either, and we clearly don't want him. Anderson also wouldn't come with all the distractions and extra dysfunction that having Melo on the roster for the next 2 years would. He wouldn't take touches away from KP and Timmy like Melo would. The organization could finally just move on and focus on developing the young core and building a culture. I would definitely take Ryan Anderson and a 1st over Melo opting in and being here for 2 more years. I would take 2 years of Anderson and then trying to deal him as an expiring plus a 1st over 2 years of Melo and the distractions, dysfunction, and circus environment that him still being here could cause.

This is all rationalization for moving an asset at a loss.

If Houston wants him, Houston needs to pay. It should be that simple.

Melo's value far exceeds Anderson and a 1st.

What is the rush to move him? It's not like he's hated the locker room.

We need to move Melo because we're afraid Isola will write mean things?

Melo will play the way we want him to, or he won't play big minutes. Guys want to make a bad deal instead of exerting proper organizational management.

can't agree more

[NYKnicksTAPE]

You pay to move a salary dump. Not a smart risk to take at all. It's literally the worst thing we could do. It is a bad contract no matter how many years are left. We don't need him at all. He would be exponentially worse for a rebuild than an expiring Melo next year. Horrible idea.

How many teams are attaching assets to move an expiring contract? How would he be exponentially worse for a rebuild than Melo next year? Explain.

We don't need Melo here either, and we clearly don't want him. Anderson also wouldn't come with all the distractions and extra dysfunction that having Melo on the roster for the next 2 years would. He wouldn't take touches away from KP and Timmy like Melo would. The organization could finally just move on and focus on developing the young core and building a culture. I would definitely take Ryan Anderson and a 1st over Melo opting in and being here for 2 more years. I would take 2 years of Anderson and then trying to deal him as an expiring plus a 1st over 2 years of Melo and the distractions, dysfunction, and circus environment that him still being here could cause.

This is all rationalization for moving an asset at a loss.

If Houston wants him, Houston needs to pay. It should be that simple.

Melo's value far exceeds Anderson and a 1st.

What is the rush to move him? It's not like he's hated the locker room.

We need to move Melo because we're afraid Isola will write mean things?

Melo will play the way we want him to, or he won't play big minutes. Guys want to make a bad deal instead of exerting proper organizational management.

my stance is that I would rather have Anderson and a 1st than Melo opting in and just buying him out like that other poster said in his scenario

Melo has little value, the Clippers weren't offering much of anything for him, and neither were the Cavs. The Rockets aren't either. What are u really expecting to get for him realistically?

I for one would like this Melo situation to get resolved soon so that we can just move on and start a new chapter. I love Melo, but I'm tired of this Melo drama every season, I really am. I want the focus to be on the young guys, not whether Melo's staying or going and all that other nonsense.

Melo opting in here and then just buying him out like the other poster said is also a bad move IMO. At least with Ryno and a 1st you're getting something of value with the 1st even if it's not much, and u don't have to deal with any distractions that Melo still being here would cause.

[Jalen Bluntson]

I would take Ryan Anderson and a 1st over Melo opting in and then just buying him out

Anderson could become a big expiring contract with some value that could eventually be moved for an asset after the next 2 years of his contract

You pay to move a salary dump. Not a smart risk to take at all. It's literally the worst thing we could do. It is a bad contract no matter how many years are left. We don't need him at all. He would be exponentially worse for a rebuild than an expiring Melo next year. Horrible idea.

How many teams are attaching assets to move an expiring contract? How would he be exponentially worse for a rebuild than Melo next year? Explain.

We don't need Melo here either, and we clearly don't want him. Anderson also wouldn't come with all the distractions and extra dysfunction that having Melo on the roster for the next 2 years would. He wouldn't take touches away from KP and Timmy like Melo would. The organization could finally just move on and focus on developing the young core and building a culture. I would definitely take Ryan Anderson and a 1st over Melo opting in and being here for 2 more years. I would take 2 years of Anderson and then trying to deal him as an expiring plus a 1st over 2 years of Melo and the distractions, dysfunction, and circus environment that him still being here could cause.

There will always be media detractors. There have been for decades. Since Dolan took over and alienated the entire local media scene. That should have ZERO impact on how we operate as an organization.

Ryno is DEAD MONEY. Me7o has value. You seem to think an expiring bad contract/player is better than an expiring good contract/player...ON A SHORTER DEAL? That's nonsense. Me7o is a far superior talent on a shorter deal. If you think trading one for the other is a good idea...you're lost.

[ChaosHamster]

Melo has value

I wonder why they aren't getting THAT VALUE BACK FOR HIM.

[GONYK]

How many teams are attaching assets to move an expiring contract? How would he be exponentially worse for a rebuild than Melo next year? Explain.

We don't need Melo here either, and we clearly don't want him. Anderson also wouldn't come with all the distractions and extra dysfunction that having Melo on the roster for the next 2 years would. He wouldn't take touches away from KP and Timmy like Melo would. The organization could finally just move on and focus on developing the young core and building a culture. I would definitely take Ryan Anderson and a 1st over Melo opting in and being here for 2 more years. I would take 2 years of Anderson and then trying to deal him as an expiring plus a 1st over 2 years of Melo and the distractions, dysfunction, and circus environment that him still being here could cause.

This is all rationalization for moving an asset at a loss.

If Houston wants him, Houston needs to pay. It should be that simple.

Melo's value far exceeds Anderson and a 1st.

What is the rush to move him? It's not like he's hated the locker room.

We need to move Melo because we're afraid Isola will write mean things?

Melo will play the way we want him to, or he won't play big minutes. Guys want to make a bad deal instead of exerting proper organizational management.

my stance is that I would rather have Anderson and a 1st than Melo opting in and just buying him out like that other poster said in his scenario

Melo has little value, the Clippers weren't offering much of anything for him, and neither were the Cavs. The Rockets aren't either. What are u really expecting to get for him realistically?

I for one would like this Melo situation to get resolved soon so that we can just move on and start a new chapter. I love Melo, but I'm tired of this Melo drama every season, I really am. I want the focus to be on the young guys, not whether Melo's staying or going and all that other nonsense.

Melo opting in here and then just buying him out like the other poster said is also a bad move IMO. At least with Ryno and a 1st you're getting something of value with the 1st even if it's not much, and u don't have to deal with any distractions that Melo still being here would cause.

Would you trade Melo for Noah/Deng/Mozgov and a very late 1st? It's is essentially the same deal.

[NYKnicksTAPE]

You pay to move a salary dump. Not a smart risk to take at all. It's literally the worst thing we could do. It is a bad contract no matter how many years are left. We don't need him at all. He would be exponentially worse for a rebuild than an expiring Melo next year. Horrible idea.

How many teams are attaching assets to move an expiring contract? How would he be exponentially worse for a rebuild than Melo next year? Explain.

We don't need Melo here either, and we clearly don't want him. Anderson also wouldn't come with all the distractions and extra dysfunction that having Melo on the roster for the next 2 years would. He wouldn't take touches away from KP and Timmy like Melo would. The organization could finally just move on and focus on developing the young core and building a culture. I would definitely take Ryan Anderson and a 1st over Melo opting in and being here for 2 more years. I would take 2 years of Anderson and then trying to deal him as an expiring plus a 1st over 2 years of Melo and the distractions, dysfunction, and circus environment that him still being here could cause.

There will always be media detractors. There have been for decades. Since Dolan took over and alienated the entire local media scene. That should have ZERO impact on how we operate as an organization.

Ryno is DEAD MONEY. Me7o has value. You seem to think an expiring bad contract/player is better than an expiring good contract/player...ON A SHORTER DEAL? That's nonsense. Me7o is a far superior talent on a shorter deal. If you think trading one for the other is a good idea...you're lost.

Melo has little if any value thanks to his NTC and the fact that he is 33 and is owed 26 and 27 mil the next 2 seasons. Would u call that a good contract?

I would take Anderson and a 1st over your scenario of 2 more years of Melo and buying him out for the reasons I've mentioned. See if u can get something for Anderson after his 2nd year, and u at least get something of value with the 1st round pick. U can also just move on from him and end this situation. The focus can be entirely on the young guys. Obviously my 1st choice would be to get a good deal for Melo before training camp starts or him opting out next summer. I don't want 2 years of this Melo situation, sorry. This Melo stuff every year is draining to me.

[ChaosHamster]

This is all rationalization for moving an asset at a loss.

If Houston wants him, Houston needs to pay. It should be that simple.

Melo's value far exceeds Anderson and a 1st.

What is the rush to move him? It's not like he's hated the locker room.

We need to move Melo because we're afraid Isola will write mean things?

Melo will play the way we want him to, or he won't play big minutes. Guys want to make a bad deal instead of exerting proper organizational management.

my stance is that I would rather have Anderson and a 1st than Melo opting in and just buying him out like that other poster said in his scenario

Melo has little value, the Clippers weren't offering much of anything for him, and neither were the Cavs. The Rockets aren't either. What are u really expecting to get for him realistically?

I for one would like this Melo situation to get resolved soon so that we can just move on and start a new chapter. I love Melo, but I'm tired of this Melo drama every season, I really am. I want the focus to be on the young guys, not whether Melo's staying or going and all that other nonsense.

Melo opting in here and then just buying him out like the other poster said is also a bad move IMO. At least with Ryno and a 1st you're getting something of value with the 1st even if it's not much, and u don't have to deal with any distractions that Melo still being here would cause.

Would you trade Melo for Noah/Deng/Mozgov and a very late 1st? It's is essentially the same deal.

Wtf? Anderson just scored 14 points shooting 40% from three as a big man.. Like cmon.

Yeah, he is overpaid and he contract is too long. But he at least can contribute to a winning basketball.

Like some where saying. He could easily be moved in his 3rd year, if he stays close to a player he is now.

[DOT]

Melo has value

I wonder why they aren't getting THAT VALUE BACK FOR HIM.

Cause we can only trade him to the Rockets

If he were on an open market, we'd be getting much better offers

[NYKnicksTAPE]

This is all rationalization for moving an asset at a loss.

If Houston wants him, Houston needs to pay. It should be that simple.

Melo's value far exceeds Anderson and a 1st.

What is the rush to move him? It's not like he's hated the locker room.

We need to move Melo because we're afraid Isola will write mean things?

Melo will play the way we want him to, or he won't play big minutes. Guys want to make a bad deal instead of exerting proper organizational management.

my stance is that I would rather have Anderson and a 1st than Melo opting in and just buying him out like that other poster said in his scenario

Melo has little value, the Clippers weren't offering much of anything for him, and neither were the Cavs. The Rockets aren't either. What are u really expecting to get for him realistically?

I for one would like this Melo situation to get resolved soon so that we can just move on and start a new chapter. I love Melo, but I'm tired of this Melo drama every season, I really am. I want the focus to be on the young guys, not whether Melo's staying or going and all that other nonsense.

Melo opting in here and then just buying him out like the other poster said is also a bad move IMO. At least with Ryno and a 1st you're getting something of value with the 1st even if it's not much, and u don't have to deal with any distractions that Melo still being here would cause.

Would you trade Melo for Noah/Deng/Mozgov and a very late 1st? It's is essentially the same deal.

No it's not. Anderson actually has some value on the court so he might be able to be moved at a later date as less guaranteed money and years are left on his deal. Somebody might take 20 mil of Ryan Anderson for 1 year. He is 1 of the best stretch fours in the game and could help a lot of teams. He's overpaid, but he's not essentially useless like those 3 are. That other poster's scenario involved Melo opting in and then just buying him out.

[ChaosHamster]

Melo has value

I wonder why they aren't getting THAT VALUE BACK FOR HIM.

Cause we can only trade him to the Rockets

If he were on an open market, we'd be getting much better offers

Exactly.

What value does he have, if he is only willing to go to a one team, that doesn't even want him that much (judging by offers flouting around), or just doesn't want to pay anything significant because they know they are the only bidders.

Melo on the open market would be a completely different story.

[Jalen Bluntson]

How many teams are attaching assets to move an expiring contract? How would he be exponentially worse for a rebuild than Melo next year? Explain.

We don't need Melo here either, and we clearly don't want him. Anderson also wouldn't come with all the distractions and extra dysfunction that having Melo on the roster for the next 2 years would. He wouldn't take touches away from KP and Timmy like Melo would. The organization could finally just move on and focus on developing the young core and building a culture. I would definitely take Ryan Anderson and a 1st over Melo opting in and being here for 2 more years. I would take 2 years of Anderson and then trying to deal him as an expiring plus a 1st over 2 years of Melo and the distractions, dysfunction, and circus environment that him still being here could cause.

This is all rationalization for moving an asset at a loss.

If Houston wants him, Houston needs to pay. It should be that simple.

Melo's value far exceeds Anderson and a 1st.

What is the rush to move him? It's not like he's hated the locker room.

We need to move Melo because we're afraid Isola will write mean things?

Melo will play the way we want him to, or he won't play big minutes. Guys want to make a bad deal instead of exerting proper organizational management.

my stance is that I would rather have Anderson and a 1st than Melo opting in and just buying him out like that other poster said in his scenario

Melo has little value, the Clippers weren't offering much of anything for him, and neither were the Cavs. The Rockets aren't either. What are u really expecting to get for him realistically?

I for one would like this Melo situation to get resolved soon so that we can just move on and start a new chapter. I love Melo, but I'm tired of this Melo drama every season, I really am. I want the focus to be on the young guys, not whether Melo's staying or going and all that other nonsense.

Melo opting in here and then just buying him out like the other poster said is also a bad move IMO. At least with Ryno and a 1st you're getting something of value with the 1st even if it's not much, and u don't have to deal with any distractions that Melo still being here would cause.

You would take a late first to add 42 million to your payroll? I hate the drama too...but...buying out Melo would SAVE money and that's way more important than a weak pick.

Melo has value...He just had 2 team list and now 1 team...that don't have anything to offer! Melo would expand his list before staying here. He's just trying to get to Houston. When that seems unlikely....he will expand his list. He's not going to want to deal with the media. The media distraction will be HIS problem because he's choosing money over winning. He doesn't need to ever play again and he would never need another penny for as long as he and his grandchildrens grand children live.

If he wants to win and enjoy playing...he'll opt out next year or expand his list.

Either way...in no circumstance is Ryno and a 1st a good trade. It's Bargnani bad.

[DOT]

Melo has value

I wonder why they aren't getting THAT VALUE BACK FOR HIM.

Cause we can only trade him to the Rockets

If he were on an open market, we'd be getting much better offers

Exactly.

What value does he have, if he is only willing to go to a one team, that doesn't even want him that much (judging by offers flouting around), or just doesn't want to pay anything significant because they know they are the only bidders.

Melo on the open market would be a completely different story.

And Anderson on the open market needs to be packaged with 2 firsts

Melo has little value cause he only can be traded to the Rockets. Anderson has negative value

[Jalen Bluntson]

Pointless. People ignore reality and facts. Thinking Melo for Ryno and a 1st...even TWO 1sts........is good? It is THE WORST POSSIBLE SCENARIO.

[shtolky]

I still think this is a game of chicken Melo is going to lose. It's preposterous to think Perry is going to deal Melo for Anderson or something similar just to avoid some awkwardness at media day and training camp. Give us all the awkwardness in the world, just don't give us crappy contracts. Once Melo realizes if he stays here the 2 years he will be 35 and pretty much finished, he will either expand his list of teams or opt out. Either way, we win.

[NYKnicksTAPE]

This is all rationalization for moving an asset at a loss.

If Houston wants him, Houston needs to pay. It should be that simple.

Melo's value far exceeds Anderson and a 1st.

What is the rush to move him? It's not like he's hated the locker room.

We need to move Melo because we're afraid Isola will write mean things?

Melo will play the way we want him to, or he won't play big minutes. Guys want to make a bad deal instead of exerting proper organizational management.

my stance is that I would rather have Anderson and a 1st than Melo opting in and just buying him out like that other poster said in his scenario

Melo has little value, the Clippers weren't offering much of anything for him, and neither were the Cavs. The Rockets aren't either. What are u really expecting to get for him realistically?

I for one would like this Melo situation to get resolved soon so that we can just move on and start a new chapter. I love Melo, but I'm tired of this Melo drama every season, I really am. I want the focus to be on the young guys, not whether Melo's staying or going and all that other nonsense.

Melo opting in here and then just buying him out like the other poster said is also a bad move IMO. At least with Ryno and a 1st you're getting something of value with the 1st even if it's not much, and u don't have to deal with any distractions that Melo still being here would cause.

You would take a late first to add 42 million to your payroll? I hate the drama too...but...buying out Melo would SAVE money and that's way more important than a weak pick.

Melo has value...He just had 2 team list and now 1 team...that don't have anything to offer! Melo would expand his list before staying here. He's just trying to get to Houston. When that seems unlikely....he will expand his list. He's not going to want to deal with the media. The media distraction will be HIS problem because he's choosing money over winning. He doesn't need to ever play again and he would never need another penny for as long as he and his grandchildrens grand children live.

If he wants to win and enjoy playing...he'll opt out next year or expand his list.

Either way...in no circumstance is Ryno and a 1st a good trade. It's Bargnani bad.

2 years of Anderson and then trying to move him plus a late 1st over 2 years of Melo and him being a distraction...I'll take Anderson

I don't want the young guys to have to deal with this situation for 2 more years. That's the just the way I see it. I'm tired of this sh*t. Am I saying that it's a good deal, no, but I don't see any good deal out there to be had. Melo expanding his list or opting out next summer (I don't think he would) are different stories, but I'm just commenting on your initial scenario of Melo opting in and then we buy him out. I would take Ryno and a 1st over that scenario. I really want this to be done with before training camp starts or at least by the start of the regular season. Enough of this every season.

[Appleshampoo]

Melo has value

I wonder why they aren't getting THAT VALUE BACK FOR HIM.

Cause we can only trade him to the Rockets

If he were on an open market, we'd be getting much better offers

Exactly.

What value does he have, if he is only willing to go to a one team, that doesn't even want him that much (judging by offers flouting around), or just doesn't want to pay anything significant because they know they are the only bidders.

Melo on the open market would be a completely different story.

Even if the Rockets wanted to, they really cannot piece together a valuable offer for Melo. The Rockets need to clear Anderson's cap space. The only other salary that could move things forward is Eric Gordon. With THjr, that would only create a log jam. Rockets also do not have many picks to spare. No trades make sense; Ryan Anderson and 2021 first round pick is embarrassing. Getting cap space and picks is all the Knicks want.

[ChaosHamster]

Cause we can only trade him to the Rockets

If he were on an open market, we'd be getting much better offers

Exactly.

What value does he have, if he is only willing to go to a one team, that doesn't even want him that much (judging by offers flouting around), or just doesn't want to pay anything significant because they know they are the only bidders.

Melo on the open market would be a completely different story.

And Anderson on the open market needs to be packaged with 2 firsts

Melo has little value cause he only can be traded to the Rockets. Anderson has negative value

Two 1st is a crazy talk. Crabbe just god unloaded for a 6mil dump in. Yeah, Crabbe is younger, but he is worse than Anderson.

Mozgov got packaged with a top2 pick, but the Lakers also got 20ppg center back. And Mozgov averaged 6 and 4 in his last two years..

And why do we even talk about hypothetical open market for Melo? There isn't one.

And Rockets aren't gonna just unload Anderson. Why should they? He is still helping them win, but they are gonna give him away and pay two 1st for it?