Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond

[thebuzzardman]

NO. I've been outspoken today that I don't want Kyrie near this team.

I'm fine with signing KD.

I'm not fine with trading away picks and Mitch for AD.

I'm down with adding a max cat like KD and continuing to build, because if he has 4-5 years in the tank that is more than enough time to be in contention mid-way through his contract with a mix of signings, drafted players and good pick-ups (which this club is perfectly capable of executing now).

And, yes, I agree, we could just hold off one more season and keep our powder dry. I've waited this long, so I'm not on the spend or die bandwagon.

What about Kemba instead of Kyrie? Let's pretend that Durant doesn't have a Kyrie preference, but insists on a vet PG.

If Kyrie signs with Brooklyn then i'd like to know what people think about D.Russell running the point for us? We sure would be able to use his shooting and i think he could even play some SG if we wanted to play him with DSJ, Frank or K.Allen. We'd have two southpaws as our starting guards with Russell and Barrett.

PG--D.Russell
SG--RJ.Barrett
SF--K.Knox/K.Durant
PF--K.Durant/K.Knox
C---M.Robinson

Personally, I think it would be a mistake to tie up max money in D. Russell.

If the Knicks wanted to tie up max money in stupid, they could have not traded KP

[Triple C]

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[Clyde_Style]

So...keep the kids...add FAs is cool with you?. If they keep the kids and MAX KD/Kyrie...are you cool with that?

I hear you about gutting the team. I want Mitch to retire here and have his number in the rafter!!! I wouldn't trip on a smaller deal for more talent though. I'm not crazy about Kyrie either way but...I wouldn't be mad if we signed him with KD. I also don't care for KD being 31 but...I'm not afraid that he'll fall off a cliff.

I would also be down with not signing anyone as well. I mean...I want Klay and Kawhi but...that's not happening.

I just hope Perry doesn't mess this up. I want to witness a title some day. The 20 year spiral in the other direction has been brutal.

NO. I've been outspoken today that I don't want Kyrie near this team.

I'm fine with signing KD.

I'm not fine with trading away picks and Mitch for AD.

I'm down with adding a max cat like KD and continuing to build, because if he has 4-5 years in the tank that is more than enough time to be in contention mid-way through his contract with a mix of signings, drafted players and good pick-ups (which this club is perfectly capable of executing now).

And, yes, I agree, we could just hold off one more season and keep our powder dry. I've waited this long, so I'm not on the spend or die bandwagon.

What about Kemba instead of Kyrie? Let's pretend that Durant doesn't have a Kyrie preference, but insists on a vet PG.

I don't really believe in giving Kemba a max deal, but yeah if it came down to that I would choose Kemba over Kyrie any day.

[DowNY]

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It’s funny, we’re talking bout trading for AD.
RJ got that Duke connection with Kyrie.
Also that Steve Nash connection with KD.

[Clyde_Style]

Kyrie is just the whipped cream on top. KD and AD are franchise level players who are dominant on both ends.

What good will Mitch and RJ being healthy do if they can't lead us into the playoffs anytime soon?

And if they do in the relatively near future, we'd have to pay them in the same neighborhood as these proven elite two way players?

You're assuming I want to contend immediately. Just because I have a stack of bills in my wallet doesn't mean I'm going to rush out and spend it all.

The underlying assumption in this thread is THIS IS IT, our shot at glory, take it or leave it. I'm not buying that line. I'm willing to see if Mitch and RJ? pan out alongside a FA signing or two, but gutting the team to get AD is just the same old Knicks to me and I'm sick of it.

You seemed to be on the side of going for the FA's and now have turned away - or is it more the injury history of Kyrie? Meaning, even with Durant's age you can tolerate him - he's been mostly healthy, latest injury aside?

Here's a hypothetical (which I know won't happen, as the $ don't match)

What if the Knicks could get AD for DSJr, RJ(2019#3) and the Mavs 2021 and 2023 picks?

That's KP (his return) and the 2019 #1 for AD.

And while adding Knox does have the result of shorting the youth movement, would that be the end of the world?

I would roll with it. AD & KD would be undeniably a good team. Mitch has to remain a Knick for me to be content. The kid has star written all over him so you don't need to go paying a third star a bazillion dollars.

[taj2133]

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[Clyde_Style]

What about Kemba instead of Kyrie? Let's pretend that Durant doesn't have a Kyrie preference, but insists on a vet PG.

If Kyrie signs with Brooklyn then i'd like to know what people think about D.Russell running the point for us? We sure would be able to use his shooting and i think he could even play some SG if we wanted to play him with DSJ, Frank or K.Allen. We'd have two southpaws as our starting guards with Russell and Barrett.

PG--D.Russell
SG--RJ.Barrett
SF--K.Knox/K.Durant
PF--K.Durant/K.Knox
C---M.Robinson

Personally, I think it would be a mistake to tie up max money in D. Russell.

If the Knicks wanted to tie up max money in stupid, they could have not traded KP

But wouldn't you look forward to Russell spilling the beans on his teammates' lingerie fetishes and edamame binges?

[newyorker4ever]

What about Kemba instead of Kyrie? Let's pretend that Durant doesn't have a Kyrie preference, but insists on a vet PG.

If Kyrie signs with Brooklyn then i'd like to know what people think about D.Russell running the point for us? We sure would be able to use his shooting and i think he could even play some SG if we wanted to play him with DSJ, Frank or K.Allen. We'd have two southpaws as our starting guards with Russell and Barrett.

PG--D.Russell
SG--RJ.Barrett
SF--K.Knox/K.Durant
PF--K.Durant/K.Knox
C---M.Robinson

Personally, I think it would be a mistake to tie up max money in D. Russell.

If the Knicks wanted to tie up max money in stupid, they could have not traded KP

What is it that you don't like about D.Russell? Is it because of everything that went on when he was with the Lakers? Is it his injury history which he's had some but not as significant as Kyrie? How do we know that the D.Russell we saw last year isn't the real D.Russell? Because if it is then the kid is becoming or has become the player everyone thought he'd be before he was drafted. I know he has a couple red flags but if he's the guy we saw last year and it just took him a few years to get his shyt together then i'm all about a K.Durant and D.Russell big two.

[newyorker4ever]

If Kyrie signs with Brooklyn then i'd like to know what people think about D.Russell running the point for us? We sure would be able to use his shooting and i think he could even play some SG if we wanted to play him with DSJ, Frank or K.Allen. We'd have two southpaws as our starting guards with Russell and Barrett.

PG--D.Russell
SG--RJ.Barrett
SF--K.Knox/K.Durant
PF--K.Durant/K.Knox
C---M.Robinson

Personally, I think it would be a mistake to tie up max money in D. Russell.

If the Knicks wanted to tie up max money in stupid, they could have not traded KP

But wouldn't you look forward to Russell spilling the beans on his teammates' lingerie fetishes and edamame binges?

He was a young kid that i'm sure learned from that and hopefully left that behind in LA. If i had to choose out of Kyrie, Kemba and D.Russell to team up with KD and come to the Knicks it would definitely be a tough decision for me. Not saying i'd definitely take Russell but it's not as easy as any of you to just throw his name out of the running right away.

[TheGreenArrow]

Kyrie
RJ
Kd
?
MITCH

AND LETS **** GO!!!!!

[KnixinSix]

You're assuming I want to contend immediately. Just because I have a stack of bills in my wallet doesn't mean I'm going to rush out and spend it all.

The underlying assumption in this thread is THIS IS IT, our shot at glory, take it or leave it. I'm not buying that line. I'm willing to see if Mitch and RJ? pan out alongside a FA signing or two, but gutting the team to get AD is just the same old Knicks to me and I'm sick of it.

You seemed to be on the side of going for the FA's and now have turned away - or is it more the injury history of Kyrie? Meaning, even with Durant's age you can tolerate him - he's been mostly healthy, latest injury aside?

Here's a hypothetical (which I know won't happen, as the $ don't match)

What if the Knicks could get AD for DSJr, RJ(2019#3) and the Mavs 2021 and 2023 picks?

That's KP (his return) and the 2019 #1 for AD.

And while adding Knox does have the result of shorting the youth movement, would that be the end of the world?

I would roll with it. AD & KD would be undeniably a good team. Mitch has to remain a Knick for me to be content. The kid has star written all over him so you don't need to go paying a third star a bazillion dollars.

Right or wrong KD is likely giving his input on what he wants in a Knick team around him should he come here. If Kyrie comes it is very likely it is at least partly because Durant wanted him here.

[Clyde_Style]

Personally, I think it would be a mistake to tie up max money in D. Russell.

If the Knicks wanted to tie up max money in stupid, they could have not traded KP

But wouldn't you look forward to Russell spilling the beans on his teammates' lingerie fetishes and edamame binges?

He was a young kid that i'm sure learned from that and hopefully left that behind in LA. If i had to choose out of Kyrie, Kemba and D.Russell to team up with KD and come to the Knicks it would definitely be a tough decision for me. Not saying i'd definitely take Russell but it's not as easy as any of you to just throw his name out of the running right away.

Personally, I want to know which Knicks sleep in Star Wars pajamas and who likes Japanese school girls so bring it on.

[KnixinSix]

Kyrie
RJ
Kd
?
MITCH

AND LETS **** GO!!!!!

That would be a very good team but do they beat the Bucks, Warriors, Houston or maybe even Toronto?

[Clyde_Style]

You seemed to be on the side of going for the FA's and now have turned away - or is it more the injury history of Kyrie? Meaning, even with Durant's age you can tolerate him - he's been mostly healthy, latest injury aside?

Here's a hypothetical (which I know won't happen, as the $ don't match)

What if the Knicks could get AD for DSJr, RJ(2019#3) and the Mavs 2021 and 2023 picks?

That's KP (his return) and the 2019 #1 for AD.

And while adding Knox does have the result of shorting the youth movement, would that be the end of the world?

I would roll with it. AD & KD would be undeniably a good team. Mitch has to remain a Knick for me to be content. The kid has star written all over him so you don't need to go paying a third star a bazillion dollars.

Right or wrong KD is likely giving his input on what he wants in a Knick team around him should he come here. If Kyrie comes it is very likely it is at least partly because Durant wanted him here.

KD will probably have real leverage about who else comes here. They certainly would not make any big deals or trades for players he doesn't want to play with, but after that I don't think Perry is going to be running every detail past KD's team when it comes to personnel decisions.

[TheGreenArrow]

Kyrie
RJ
Kd
?
MITCH

AND LETS **** GO!!!!!

That would be a very good team but do they beat the Bucks, Warriors, Houston or maybe even Toronto?

Other than the warriors they'd beat everyone else pretty easily imo.

Kyrie/Dsjr
Rj/trier
Kd/dotson
Knox/lft
Dj/mitch

Thats a more realistic lineup and is easily the best team in the east.

[KnixinSix]

Kyrie
RJ
Kd
?
MITCH

AND LETS **** GO!!!!!

That would be a very good team but do they beat the Bucks, Warriors, Houston or maybe even Toronto?

Other than the warriors they'd beat everyone else pretty easily imo.

Kyrie/Dsjr
Rj/trier
Kd/dotson
Knox/lft
Dj/mitch

Thats a more realistic lineup and is easily the best team in the east.

I think it comes down to just how good the Knicks/and KD think that RJ can be both offensively and defensively THIS year. KD isnt going to want to sit around a couple years before we are ready to beat the Warriors. Where ever he goes he'll want to compete year 1 for the championship. If he and the Knicks agre there is at least a decent chance to be good enough right away with RJ then any AD trade will come on OUR terms.

[TheGreenArrow]

That would be a very good team but do they beat the Bucks, Warriors, Houston or maybe even Toronto?

Other than the warriors they'd beat everyone else pretty easily imo.

Kyrie/Dsjr
Rj/trier
Kd/dotson
Knox/lft
Dj/mitch

Thats a more realistic lineup and is easily the best team in the east.

I think it comes down to just how good the Knicks/and KD think that RJ can be both offensively and defensively THIS year. KD isnt going to want to sit around a couple years before we are ready to beat the Warriors. Where ever he goes he'll want to compete year 1 for the championship. If he and the Knicks agre there is at least a decent chance to be good enough right away with RJ then any AD trade will come on OUR terms.

I think Rj can come in and instantly give us 12-15 points ppg easily.

He's that good especially when defense's will be keyed in on Kd and kyrie.

[HerSports85]

Kyrie
RJ
Kd
?
MITCH

AND LETS **** GO!!!!!

Marcus Morris

[Context]

Im not trading RJ Barrett .

He's untouchable.

I like the way you think- NO RJ- NO MITCH

Keep AD for all I care...I think he's all shine no filler anyway and an injury waiting to happen...

[Juco24]

Kyrie
RJ
Kd
?
MITCH

AND LETS **** GO!!!!!

That would be a very good team but do they beat the Bucks, Warriors, Houston or maybe even Toronto?

Other than the warriors they'd beat everyone else pretty easily imo.

Kyrie/Dsjr
Rj/trier
Kd/dotson
Knox/lft
Dj/mitch

Thats a more realistic lineup and is easily the best team in the east.

I don't know about easily... but that is DEFINITIVELY a contending team and it is certainly realistic. Plus, it makes and KEEPS us competitive for years. This, along with our surplus of picks could very well make the Knicks a legacy. I'd probably try and get Taj to sign with your aforementioned and I don't know what happens with Frank but I certainly agree with your roster. To that, if RJ & Knox (and Mitch) can reach their potential.... Damn, we'd be really good! And also very deep!! Which is important for a long season.