thebuzzardman wrote:NewKnicks wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:Bulls are 1-4 with Vucevic. His defense made them even worse. It's not a stretch to say Lavine will ask out. We can trade for him or sign him as a free agent
I can't believe you're still still thinking Lavine is leaving the Bulls. There is zero chance the Bulls let him go, and he's said he's extremely happy with the organization especially after signing Vuc. They traded two 1sts to get Vuc. There not letting Lavine go. Also, I'm sure the team had extensive talks with Lavine before they pulled the trigger on a deal for a 30 year old. I'm sure Lavine said yeah, let's go for it, I want to stay here and build a winner with Vuc on my team. They don't make that deal without getting Lavine's opinion.
Also, do you look at schedules/teams played when saying a team isn't good? Bulls played the Spurs, Warriors, Suns, Jazz and the Nets. Do you consider that it might take time for teams to gel after major trades? Or no, you're able to see the next 5 years based on 5 games?
I'm not saying the Bulls are going to be great, but you don't have any clue what the future holds for them after adding Vuc. I don't either. Let's see how they play the next 10 games when their schedule is not as tough as the last 6 games, and they've had a little time to gel.
I respect your opinions Melo, but making predictions on the future of the Bulls based on 5 games seems a bit premature. Don't you think?
Well, you are being just as assured he won't leave as Melo is he will.
It's a coin toss of opinion at that point.
Either way, both of you are speculating. There are solid reasons he might leave and solid reasons he might stay.
Knicks have extra picks and cap space and cost controlled players, at least for another year.
Those are their team building advantages. Oh, and having a good coach.
And that like 4 of their cost controlled players are good.
What is working against them?
No good FA's this upcoming season - or not elite.
The picks are in the mid 1st-ish.
Dolan
Well, I'm paraphrasing. More to it than that. Knicks can do some good things, but they'll have to thread the needle some, get their timing right and have some skill/luck in the draft and some luck in maybe a name player "complaining a trade"
While I agree both of us are speculating, I try to stay logical in what I speculate about The Bulls surely discussed the trade with Lavine, and discussed his future with the Bulls before pulling the trigger. Also, the Bulls would never have made that trade if they thought there was even a small chance of Lavine leaving. Again, speculation, but I'm pretty sure they talked extensions with Lavine before making the trade. Also, from a logical standpoint, the Bulls front office would not risk blowing up the entire franchise by making the mistake of trading for a 30 year old All-Star, with the idea that their other All-Star would not be re-signing. The Bulls just traded away 2 #1's, so logically, they wouldn't trade Lavine to get #1's in return. What would be the point of that? They'd be stuck with an aging All-Star, and then trying to build through the draft, when the young players they drafted would not be in their primes for another 3-7 years, when Vuc is getting up there in age. It makes no sense for them to consider this option.
I realize the counter point is that the Bulls can't control Lavine, but I can't imagine a scenario where they think it made sense to make this trade without getting serious assurances that Lavine wants to stick around.
Again I agree, I am completely speculating. We all can think what we want to think, and I respect most posters on here and their right to their opinions. Most (or probably a lot less than most).
