Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor

[Synciere]

Sexton and MPJ would be a pretty great off season if you ask me.

Sexton/Rose
RJ/IQ
MPJ/
Randle/Obi
Mitch/

Is a pretty solid core. Especially if the picks given up are in later years and allow us to still sign upgrades this free agency.

[BKlutch]

We already got Quickley, we don't need Sex.

We need Sex, and Quick!

[prophet_of_rage]

I’m still traumatized from 2014 Raymond felton

I'm still traumatized by 2000s Chris Duhon

Who is the award winning worst Knick point guard since 1990? Criteria is ineptitude, length of service and minutes per game.

Scott Brooks head coach of the Wizards was probably the worst pg we ever had.

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[KnicksGadfly]

Who is the award winning worst Knick point guard since 1990? Criteria is ineptitude, length of service and minutes per game.

Idk but bibby was SO **** trash. Beyond washed

Poor guy was forced to play in the playoffs cause Shumpert and baron davis got injured. And then “85% healed” Jeremy Lin didn’t wanna ruin his payday.

Like Melo didn’t want to ruin his payday when he forced a trade and got the Knicks to give up a shytton of assets? Or how “social justice warrior” Melo somehow felt comfortable calling out the only Asian American player in the NBA for a ridiculous contract? Of course he didn’t do it to anyone else, of course. Or how the Knicks ended up trading for Felton to appease him?

Or you feel it’s okay for a minimum player who was about to cut from the league, sleeping on a friend’s coach, to risk his career for a jealous 100 million+ player who didn’t like him and went out of his way to alienate and remove him from the team anyway? The one who got ridden by Mike D’Antoni like Secretariat to help the Knicks get many crucial wins when they were screwed? Especially in a league where Isaiah Thomas gets traded by the Celtics after what he did for them?

Yah, eff Melo. I saw who he was as a person after that. And yah, I can’t ever prove that what he did was 100% racist but the Asian American side of me has his suspicions.

Edit: oh and a lot of Melo’s racist fans on realGM were even worse. Course it was more okay to hate Asians back then, so it kinda explains why Melo said what he said and what his fans said.

[TwitterFingers]

I'm still traumatized by 2000s Chris Duhon

Who is the award winning worst Knick point guard since 1990? Criteria is ineptitude, length of service and minutes per game.

Scott Brooks head coach of the Wizards was probably the worst pg we ever had.

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He barely got on the court when he played with us. He was a serviceable player before he got to the Knicks. Nothing special, but I remember him closing out games in Houston for awhile and was solid. Frank has never been solid. Elf has never been solid. If you’re going by knick careers jarret Jack and Sessions were as bad as anyone.

[DaGawd]

Why we talking about Michael Porter jr now.. he on the block?

[DaGawd]

Oh **** he is.. we seem destined to try and correct the fk up that was the 2018 draft lol

[3toheadmelo]

Idk but bibby was SO **** trash. Beyond washed

Poor guy was forced to play in the playoffs cause Shumpert and baron davis got injured. And then “85% healed” Jeremy Lin didn’t wanna ruin his payday.

Like Melo didn’t want to ruin his payday when he forced a trade and got the Knicks to give up a shytton of assets? Or how “social justice warrior” Melo somehow felt comfortable calling out the only Asian American player in the NBA for a ridiculous contract? Of course he didn’t do it to anyone else, of course. Or how the Knicks ended up trading for Felton to appease him?

Or you feel it’s okay for a minimum player who was about to cut from the league, sleeping on a friend’s coach, to risk his career for a jealous 100 million+ player who didn’t like him and went out of his way to alienate and remove him from the team anyway? The one who got ridden by Mike D’Antoni like Secretariat to help the Knicks get many crucial wins when they were screwed? Especially in a league where Isaiah Thomas gets traded by the Celtics after what he did for them?

Yah, eff Melo. And yah, I can’t ever prove that what he did was 100% racist but the Asian American side of me has his suspicions.

Yeah this guy is definitely racist. FOH


That contract was definitely ridiculous. And he was right. What is Lin doing in the NBA right now?

You seem big mad that your boy Lin is a scrub and out of the NBA. Go root for him on whatever over seas team he’s on. Crying over Lin is like crying over Cole Aldrich. And mike D’anphony? Lmfao. Trash ass coach. That’s why he’s not a head coach anymore. Just like how ya mans Lin can’t get no contract by anyone. Meanwhile Melo breaking records till this day and just became a top 10 scorer of all time. I’m enjoying the tears!

[KnicksGadfly]

Poor guy was forced to play in the playoffs cause Shumpert and baron davis got injured. And then “85% healed” Jeremy Lin didn’t wanna ruin his payday.

Like Melo didn’t want to ruin his payday when he forced a trade and got the Knicks to give up a shytton of assets? Or how “social justice warrior” Melo somehow felt comfortable calling out the only Asian American player in the NBA for a ridiculous contract? Of course he didn’t do it to anyone else, of course. Or how the Knicks ended up trading for Felton to appease him?

Or you feel it’s okay for a minimum player who was about to cut from the league, sleeping on a friend’s coach, to risk his career for a jealous 100 million+ player who didn’t like him and went out of his way to alienate and remove him from the team anyway? The one who got ridden by Mike D’Antoni like Secretariat to help the Knicks get many crucial wins when they were screwed? Especially in a league where Isaiah Thomas gets traded by the Celtics after what he did for them?

Yah, eff Melo. And yah, I can’t ever prove that what he did was 100% racist but the Asian American side of me has his suspicions.

Yeah this guy is definitely racist. FOH


That contract was definitely ridiculous. And he was right. What is Lin doing in the NBA right now?

You seem big mad that your boy Lin is a scrub and out of the NBA. Go root for him on whatever over seas team he’s on. Crying over Lin is like crying over Cole Aldrich. And mike D’anphony? Lmfao. Trash ass coach. That’s why he’s not a head coach anymore. Just like how ya mans Lin can’t get no contract by anyone. Meanwhile Melo breaking records till this day and just became a top 10 scorer of all time. I’m enjoying the tears!

All it says is that Melo is a hypocrite. That’s all. Like I’m an Asian American and I do care about black people. And I hope I can do better with those issues. But I also know Asian American justice warriors who are racist as hell against other ethnicities. I applaud what Melo did for his people. Applaud the stand he took for Black Lives Matter. Beyond that, all I know is that he pretty much othered the Asian American guy on his team. Then again it wasn’t like he was alone, but Melo had the most influence.

As for Lin, yah, he wasn’t that great. Not an all star. So yea, we can agree there. So why are you so mad at him? He had a very successful career for where he came from. Undrafted, racist barriers, intentional racism, etc. So why did Melo feel so threatened?

[Isiahthomass]

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Will they take Knox?

How about a resigned Frank.

Hey, I have another cap question.

I see people occasionally putting Frank into trades.
Frank is a FA, upcoming.
Knicks would have to sign him.

Would they be hit with his cap hit?
Could they renounce him, then sign him for a reduced price and cap hit, and then trade him?

I can't see the Knicks wanting to create an 18 million $ cap spot just to be able to "trade him" but again, I'm not that well versed on the CBA.

How about Felton, Gallinari, Chandler and Mozgov and a couple of picks?

[KnicksGadfly]

Like Melo didn’t want to ruin his payday when he forced a trade and got the Knicks to give up a shytton of assets? Or how “social justice warrior” Melo somehow felt comfortable calling out the only Asian American player in the NBA for a ridiculous contract? Of course he didn’t do it to anyone else, of course. Or how the Knicks ended up trading for Felton to appease him?

Or you feel it’s okay for a minimum player who was about to cut from the league, sleeping on a friend’s coach, to risk his career for a jealous 100 million+ player who didn’t like him and went out of his way to alienate and remove him from the team anyway? The one who got ridden by Mike D’Antoni like Secretariat to help the Knicks get many crucial wins when they were screwed? Especially in a league where Isaiah Thomas gets traded by the Celtics after what he did for them?

Yah, eff Melo. And yah, I can’t ever prove that what he did was 100% racist but the Asian American side of me has his suspicions.

Yeah this guy is definitely racist. FOH


That contract was definitely ridiculous. And he was right. What is Lin doing in the NBA right now?

You seem big mad that your boy Lin is a scrub and out of the NBA. Go root for him on whatever over seas team he’s on. Crying over Lin is like crying over Cole Aldrich. And mike D’anphony? Lmfao. Trash ass coach. That’s why he’s not a head coach anymore. Just like how ya mans Lin can’t get no contract by anyone. Meanwhile Melo breaking records till this day and just became a top 10 scorer of all time. I’m enjoying the tears!

All it says is that Melo is a hypocrite. That’s all. Like I’m an Asian American and I do care about black people. And I hope I can do better with those issues. But I also know Asian American justice warriors who are racist as hell against other ethnicities. I applaud what Melo did for his people. Applaud the stand he took for Black Lives Matter. Beyond that, all I know is that he pretty much othered the Asian American guy on his team. Then again it wasn’t like he was alone, but Melo had the most influence.

As for Lin, yah, he wasn’t that great. Not an all star. So yea, we can agree there. So why are you so mad at him? He had a very successful career for where he came from. Undrafted, racist barriers, intentional racism, etc. So why did Melo feel so threatened?

Look bro, we’re derailing the thread. I’m down to continue this convo in pm if you want. If not, let’s leave it.

[The Lamma]

I’m still traumatized from 2014 Raymond felton

I'm still traumatized by 2000s Chris Duhon

Who is the award winning worst Knick point guard since 1990? Criteria is ineptitude, length of service and minutes per game.

Surprised more people aren't piling on Payton. Tough one to answer because we've had a billion awful ones, most of which were only here short term though. In addition to the players already mentioned, I used to really not-enjoy watching Emmanuel Doody-yay drive the ball and always fcking fall down after putting up a shot.

PS It's bizarre that Duhon holds the Knicks record for assists in a game at 22. You'd think Mark Jackson or Clyde

[3toheadmelo]

Like Melo didn’t want to ruin his payday when he forced a trade and got the Knicks to give up a shytton of assets? Or how “social justice warrior” Melo somehow felt comfortable calling out the only Asian American player in the NBA for a ridiculous contract? Of course he didn’t do it to anyone else, of course. Or how the Knicks ended up trading for Felton to appease him?

Or you feel it’s okay for a minimum player who was about to cut from the league, sleeping on a friend’s coach, to risk his career for a jealous 100 million+ player who didn’t like him and went out of his way to alienate and remove him from the team anyway? The one who got ridden by Mike D’Antoni like Secretariat to help the Knicks get many crucial wins when they were screwed? Especially in a league where Isaiah Thomas gets traded by the Celtics after what he did for them?

Yah, eff Melo. And yah, I can’t ever prove that what he did was 100% racist but the Asian American side of me has his suspicions.

Yeah this guy is definitely racist. FOH


That contract was definitely ridiculous. And he was right. What is Lin doing in the NBA right now?

You seem big mad that your boy Lin is a scrub and out of the NBA. Go root for him on whatever over seas team he’s on. Crying over Lin is like crying over Cole Aldrich. And mike D’anphony? Lmfao. Trash ass coach. That’s why he’s not a head coach anymore. Just like how ya mans Lin can’t get no contract by anyone. Meanwhile Melo breaking records till this day and just became a top 10 scorer of all time. I’m enjoying the tears!

All it says is that Melo is a hypocrite. That’s all. Like I’m an Asian American and I do care about black people. And I hope I can do better with those issues. But I also know Asian American justice warriors who are racist as hell against other ethnicities. I applaud what Melo did for his people. Applaud the stand he took for Black Lives Matter. Beyond that, all I know is that he pretty much othered the Asian American guy on his team. Then again it wasn’t like he was alone, but Melo had the most influence.

As for Lin, yah, he wasn’t that great. Not an all star. So yea, we can agree there. So why are you so mad at him? He had a very successful career for where he came from. Undrafted, racist barriers, intentional racism, etc. So why did Melo feel so threatened?

Makes sense why you feel some type of way since you’re Asian. Melo never felt threatened. That’s something that you made up to feel better about Lin’s underwhelming career. Hell Melo even had his own unique handshake with Lin which I ain’t never seen him do with anyone else.

I’m not even mad at Lin like you’re mad at Melo for biased reasons. Lin would’ve got shut down by the Heat like they did to him in the regular season.

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The least he could’ve done is tried to help the team. True warriors puts their body on the line in the playoffs. But I understand. He had to get the bag and he didn’t wanna risk it. So good for him. He got paid and nobody ever heard from him ever again.

[KnixtapeH20]

I'm still traumatized by 2000s Chris Duhon

Who is the award winning worst Knick point guard since 1990? Criteria is ineptitude, length of service and minutes per game.

Surprised more people aren't piling on Payton. Tough one to answer because we've had a billion awful ones, most of which were only here short term though. In addition to the players already mentioned, I used to really not-enjoy watching Emmanuel Doody-yay drive the ball and always fcking fall down after putting up a shot.

PS It's bizarre that Duhon holds the Knicks record for assists in a game at 22. You'd think Mark Jackson or Clyde

Its easily Elfrid Payton. But since he said 1990s it made u think all the way back and forget about Elfrid lol

Elfrid is the biggest forced starter scrub/bum juice that has ever put on a Knicks jersey and it's really not even his fault.

If Elfrid had a mardy collins or andy rautins type of role nobody would even hate him. He might of even given us some decent minutes as a backup playing 6-8 minutes a night.

[prophet_of_rage]

Who is the award winning worst Knick point guard since 1990? Criteria is ineptitude, length of service and minutes per game.

Surprised more people aren't piling on Payton. Tough one to answer because we've had a billion awful ones, most of which were only here short term though. In addition to the players already mentioned, I used to really not-enjoy watching Emmanuel Doody-yay drive the ball and always fcking fall down after putting up a shot.

PS It's bizarre that Duhon holds the Knicks record for assists in a game at 22. You'd think Mark Jackson or Clyde

Its easily Elfrid Payton. But since he said 1990s it made u think all the way back and forget about Elfrid lol

Elfrid is the biggest forced starter scrub/bum juice that has ever put on a Knicks jersey and it's really not even his fault.

If Elfrid had a mardy collins or andy rautins type of role nobody would even hate him. He might of even given us some decent minutes as a backup playing 6-8 minutes a night.

It actually isn't. We have had way worse point guards. Toure Murray. Frank Williams. Scott Brooks. Brooks Thompson. Shane Larkin.

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[Capn'O]

Who is the award winning worst Knick point guard since 1990? Criteria is ineptitude, length of service and minutes per game.

Scott Brooks head coach of the Wizards was probably the worst pg we ever had.

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He barely got on the court when he played with us. He was a serviceable player before he got to the Knicks. Nothing special, but I remember him closing out games in Houston for awhile and was solid. Frank has never been solid. Elf has never been solid. If you’re going by knick careers jarret Jack and Sessions were as bad as anyone.

I'm going with Jamison Brewer.

[KnixtapeH20]

Surprised more people aren't piling on Payton. Tough one to answer because we've had a billion awful ones, most of which were only here short term though. In addition to the players already mentioned, I used to really not-enjoy watching Emmanuel Doody-yay drive the ball and always fcking fall down after putting up a shot.

PS It's bizarre that Duhon holds the Knicks record for assists in a game at 22. You'd think Mark Jackson or Clyde

Its easily Elfrid Payton. But since he said 1990s it made u think all the way back and forget about Elfrid lol

Elfrid is the biggest forced starter scrub/bum juice that has ever put on a Knicks jersey and it's really not even his fault.

If Elfrid had a mardy collins or andy rautins type of role nobody would even hate him. He might of even given us some decent minutes as a backup playing 6-8 minutes a night.

It actually isn't. We have had way worse point guards. Toure Murray. Frank Williams. Scott Brooks. Brooks Thompson. Shane Larkin.

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I'd take Toure' Murray over Elfrid bc he actually plays defense. Yes its another player we hyped up but he was also a product of the NYK environment. Larkin could actually shoot he was just 4 foot

None of those players u mentioned were shoved down our throats to play 40 minutes on a contending team.

[Synciere]

a team with sexton, rj and randle won't be good offensively. none of them are perimeter focused. it's a bad trio together. if you really want sexton, you should get rid of 1 of the other two.

That was my point of the thread I created a few weeks ago.

Having two inefficient scorers in our line-up (RJ and Randle) who are not rim-runners really hurts our offense. It inevitably puts a ceiling on this team.

I just don't like the fit. It's not that they can't co-exist, it's just that the addition of both players makes it incredibly difficult to have a potent offense.

Ideally, the front office would trade one of the two. I personally think Randle is harder to build around, and we have a replacement in Obi, so I would trade Julius before RJ. I don't think the FO will trade either though.

it's also where they take most of their shots. if you look at the shot charts for these 3 guys last year, it doesn't make sense to put them together.

Everyone in the league takes the same shots now though: in the paint and threes. Unless you want a return to the midrange J, which I’m not wholly opposed to. The midrange is an important shot in the playoffs once you start playing the best defenses every night. Those teams are trained to take away layups and threes.

[nykballa2k4]

Poor guy was forced to play in the playoffs cause Shumpert and baron davis got injured. And then “85% healed” Jeremy Lin didn’t wanna ruin his payday.

Like Melo didn’t want to ruin his payday when he forced a trade and got the Knicks to give up a shytton of assets? Or how “social justice warrior” Melo somehow felt comfortable calling out the only Asian American player in the NBA for a ridiculous contract? Of course he didn’t do it to anyone else, of course. Or how the Knicks ended up trading for Felton to appease him?

Or you feel it’s okay for a minimum player who was about to cut from the league, sleeping on a friend’s coach, to risk his career for a jealous 100 million+ player who didn’t like him and went out of his way to alienate and remove him from the team anyway? The one who got ridden by Mike D’Antoni like Secretariat to help the Knicks get many crucial wins when they were screwed? Especially in a league where Isaiah Thomas gets traded by the Celtics after what he did for them?

Yah, eff Melo. And yah, I can’t ever prove that what he did was 100% racist but the Asian American side of me has his suspicions.

Yeah this guy is definitely racist. FOH


That contract was definitely ridiculous. And he was right. What is Lin doing in the NBA right now?

You seem big mad that your boy Lin is a scrub and out of the NBA. Go root for him on whatever over seas team he’s on. Crying over Lin is like crying over Cole Aldrich. And mike D’anphony? Lmfao. Trash ass coach. That’s why he’s not a head coach anymore. Just like how ya mans Lin can’t get no contract by anyone. Meanwhile Melo breaking records till this day and just became a top 10 scorer of all time. I’m enjoying the tears!

Lin is out of the league, in part, because of racism. That's not really even controversial. Melo was part of that when he was here. Melo today may have grown from that, it was a decade ago or 25% of his lifetime ago. But no question if Lin was of a different background he'd have been a Knick longer.

[nykballa2k4]

Its easily Elfrid Payton. But since he said 1990s it made u think all the way back and forget about Elfrid lol

Elfrid is the biggest forced starter scrub/bum juice that has ever put on a Knicks jersey and it's really not even his fault.

If Elfrid had a mardy collins or andy rautins type of role nobody would even hate him. He might of even given us some decent minutes as a backup playing 6-8 minutes a night.

It actually isn't. We have had way worse point guards. Toure Murray. Frank Williams. Scott Brooks. Brooks Thompson. Shane Larkin.

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I'd take Toure' Murray over Elfrid bc he actually plays defense. Yes its another player we hyped up but he was also a product of the NYK environment. Larkin could actually shoot he was just 4 foot

None of those players u mentioned were shoved down our throats to play 40 minutes on a contending team.

Frank was awesome. Wish we kept him and didn't get Crawful.