Build a Franchise (Season 6) Regular Season Thread

[2010]

To be fair, Jokic and Giannis looked great on paper but their impact together didn’t play out the way everyone expected.

[NewEra]

I’ve never called a trade bad and I won’t start now cause every GM has their reason. Sometimes we don’t see it until years later, But Joker for Barrett (can’t believe I just wrote that) has to be the most significant trade in BaF history. I’m gonna spew some spice here and call it what it is. Collusion!

@Deeeez & MPH

[E-Balla]

To be fair, Jokic and Giannis looked great on paper but the impact together it didn’t play out the way everyone expected.

But he didn't even get an All Star back for an MVP. If he only traded Bridges for those guys that trade might've still been a loss.

The Mavs were much better before the trade and MPH was actually defeatable back then. Now I gotta pray he gets an injury in the postseason lol.

I’ve never called a trade bad and I won’t start now cause every GM has their reason. Sometimes we don’t see it until years later, But Joker for Barrett (can’t believe I just wrote that) has to be the most significant trade in BaF history. I’m gonna spew some spice here and call it what it is. Collusion!

"Significant" lmaoooo. Hey look I can only say so much, the man's a former BaF champion so he's not bad, just made a godawful trade.

[NewEra]

To be fair, Jokic and Giannis looked great on paper but the impact together it didn’t play out the way everyone expected.

But he didn't even get an All Star back for an MVP. If he only traded Bridges for those guys that trade might've still been a loss.

The Mavs were much better before the trade and MPH was actually defeatable back then. Now I gotta pray he gets an injury in the postseason lol.

I’ve never called a trade bad and I won’t start now cause every GM has their reason. Sometimes we don’t see it until years later, But Joker for Barrett (can’t believe I just wrote that) has to be the most significant trade in BaF history. I’m gonna spew some spice here and call it what it is. Collusion!

"Significant" lmaoooo. Hey look I can only say so much, the man's a former BaF champion so he's not bad, just made a godawful trade.

[mpharris36]

To be fair, Jokic and Giannis looked great on paper but the impact together it didn’t play out the way everyone expected.

There was also the factor the Mikal, Jokic, and Giannis were all expiring's and all coveted free agents.

They combined to sign this offseason for 1,237 which is even over the hard cap between all 3.

No team currently operates with 2 +400 players. There was a real concern at the time that both players would get over $500 and they damn near cost 1,000 combined. I was fully not expecting to be able to bring back Jokic and Curry last year and I kind of treated last year and go for all and just figure out how to put some of the pieces back together in the offseason.

To my surprise Curry bidding went sub $400 for me so I was able to make it happen. I had to make some extra cost cutting moves even like Haliburton for Bane (which doesn't seem big) but saved me close to $40.

[E-Balla]

I understand the cap argument, but y'all not telling me you couldn't get better for league MVP Nikola Jokic. Deeeez was being a homer and overpaid for RJ Barrett. Having a Knicks player is a great way to rip off someone in BaF but an MVP is next level lol.

[2010]

To be fair, Jokic and Giannis looked great on paper but the impact together it didn’t play out the way everyone expected.

But he didn't even get an All Star back for an MVP. If he only traded Bridges for those guys that trade might've still been a loss.

The Mavs were much better before the trade and MPH was actually defeatable back then. Now I gotta pray he gets an injury in the postseason lol.

I’ve never called a trade bad and I won’t start now cause every GM has their reason. Sometimes we don’t see it until years later, But Joker for Barrett (can’t believe I just wrote that) has to be the most significant trade in BaF history. I’m gonna spew some spice here and call it what it is. Collusion!

"Significant" lmaoooo. Hey look I can only say so much, the man's a former BaF champion so he's not bad, just made a godawful trade.

I’m not excusing the return. More so the decision to trade Joker, who at the time was not performing in the sim relative to his IRL performance. Just ask Manhattan Project.

[NewEra]

To be fair, Jokic and Giannis looked great on paper but the impact together it didn’t play out the way everyone expected.

There was also the factor the Mikal, Jokic, and Giannis were all expiring's and all coveted free agents.

They combined to sign this offseason for 1,237 which is even over the hard cap between all 3.

No team currently operates with 2 +400 players. There was a real concern at the time that both players would get over $500 and they damn near cost 1,000 combined. I was fully not expecting to be able to bring back Jokic and Curry last year and I kind of treated last year and go for all and just figure out how to put some of the pieces back together in the offseason.

To my surprise Curry bidding went sub $400 for me so I was able to make it happen. I had to make some extra cost cutting moves even like Haliburton for Bane (which doesn't seem big) but saved me close to $40.

Joker was a lock to return to SAS this summer , but we let you walk away with Curry too. I think we all can agree you got a steal in that Joker trade. It happened and we all felt it (heck I got swept), but letting you retain Curry could've been prevented and well...it wasn't. I made a significant offer to him early, so I don't feel too bad lol.

[mpharris36]

I understand the cap argument, but y'all not telling me you couldn't get better for league MVP Nikola Jokic. Deeeez was being a homer and overpaid for RJ Barrett. Having a Knicks player is a great way to rip off someone in BaF but an MVP is next level lol.

that wasn't even the main piece of the deal. Suggs was the big piece (and unfortunately he's been injured). Robert Williams is a really good player. At the time Duarte was also having a really good rookie season (Mathurin and Haliburton acquisitions have kinda low key hurt his value) but at the time that was different.

Also parted with Anfernee Simons in the deal. All these guys were on cost controlled deals....and I got back two expirings.

If I remember correctly you we very high on Jalen Green in the draft, to the point I think you have a superstar at the time and said you would trade him straight up for him, not sure you would do that now. A lot of people but added value on rookie contracts too especially if they break out. If they don't it doesn't look as good but sometimes that is the gamble we take when trading for young guys if the projections don't reach our own valuations.

[mpharris36]

To be fair, Jokic and Giannis looked great on paper but the impact together it didn’t play out the way everyone expected.

There was also the factor the Mikal, Jokic, and Giannis were all expiring's and all coveted free agents.

They combined to sign this offseason for 1,237 which is even over the hard cap between all 3.

No team currently operates with 2 +400 players. There was a real concern at the time that both players would get over $500 and they damn near cost 1,000 combined. I was fully not expecting to be able to bring back Jokic and Curry last year and I kind of treated last year and go for all and just figure out how to put some of the pieces back together in the offseason.

To my surprise Curry bidding went sub $400 for me so I was able to make it happen. I had to make some extra cost cutting moves even like Haliburton for Bane (which doesn't seem big) but saved me close to $40.

Joker was a lock to return to SAS this summer , but we let you walk away with Curry too. I think we all can agree you got a steal in that Joker trade. It happened and we all felt it (heck I got swept), but letting you retain Curry could've been prevented and well...it wasn't. I made a significant offer to him early, so I don't feel too bad lol.

Curry is not even a big time difference maker on my team(this year). I had to make some adjustments to the roster and team to combat what the SIM did to him.

Look at my star ratings. If you look up and down a lot of teams I don't jump out as a roster in the sim.

I have a 5 star, a 4, star and 2 3 stars everyone else is sub 3 stars...that isn't some ridiculous jump out of the page gap between teams. Maybe I should get some credit for building a good team though that fits

[TerrenceClarke]

Damn there is mad trauma from that trade even from other GMs that are hurt. Mental health is real yall. Do we need to uprgrade and call in….




During the break behind the scenes after hearing the anguish from GMs…

Spoiler:

[E-Balla]

I might as well throw it in here... DeMar is on the block. I'm not catching San Antonio at this rate and he's by far my best contract (4.5 stars, will be at least 4 stars next year, and is only on a $345/3 deal) so if there's any deals that might give me the edge that's it. If you're looking for a star to take you over the top and get your team up one level just let me know.

If we're doing a deal for another player I'd at least need another All Star level player back (maybe not an All Star, but on that tier) or a young great prospect I have at All Star potential. A star for star swap can also make sense if another team just wants to shake it up and hope DeMar can outperform their current star.

Also accepting cap dumps for him. If you can give me a usable role player or two while getting me at least $20 under the salary cap I'm probably also down for it.

Kemba (who's also looking like he'll maintain his ratings going into next year and is on a 3 year deal) and Holmes (playing him currently as a showcase off the bench. 3-0 so far in games where he's entered the rotation and he has a positive +/-) are available for if you want to take on a salary dump. I was going to reach out to teams but I realize with a lot of the guys traded already a bunch of the teams I want to contact might already have agreed to deals.

[NewEra]

I understand the cap argument, but y'all not telling me you couldn't get better for league MVP Nikola Jokic. Deeeez was being a homer and overpaid for RJ Barrett. Having a Knicks player is a great way to rip off someone in BaF but an MVP is next level lol.

that wasn't even the main piece of the deal. Suggs was the big piece (and unfortunately he's been injured). Robert Williams is a really good player. At the time Duarte was also having a really good rookie season (Mathurin and Haliburton acquisitions have kinda low key hurt his value) but at the time that was different.

Also parted with Anfernee Simons in the deal. All these guys were on cost controlled deals....and I got back two expirings.

If I remember correctly you we very high on Jalen Green in the draft, to the point I think you have a superstar at the time and said you would trade him straight up for him, not sure you would do that now. A lot of people but added value on rookie contracts too especially if they break out. If they don't it doesn't look as good but sometimes that is the gamble we take when trading for young guys if the projections don't reach our own valuations.

@Context


Sorry y’all it must be something in the curry I ate last night. I’m feeling just a little bit spicy today! Maybe I should log off

[NewEra]

There was also the factor the Mikal, Jokic, and Giannis were all expiring's and all coveted free agents.

They combined to sign this offseason for 1,237 which is even over the hard cap between all 3.

No team currently operates with 2 +400 players. There was a real concern at the time that both players would get over $500 and they damn near cost 1,000 combined. I was fully not expecting to be able to bring back Jokic and Curry last year and I kind of treated last year and go for all and just figure out how to put some of the pieces back together in the offseason.

To my surprise Curry bidding went sub $400 for me so I was able to make it happen. I had to make some extra cost cutting moves even like Haliburton for Bane (which doesn't seem big) but saved me close to $40.

Joker was a lock to return to SAS this summer , but we let you walk away with Curry too. I think we all can agree you got a steal in that Joker trade. It happened and we all felt it (heck I got swept), but letting you retain Curry could've been prevented and well...it wasn't. I made a significant offer to him early, so I don't feel too bad lol.

Curry is not even a big time difference maker on my team(this year). I had to make some adjustments to the roster and team to combat what the SIM did to him.

Look at my star ratings. If you look up and down a lot of teams I don't jump out as a roster in the sim.

I have a 5 star, a 4, star and 2 3 stars everyone else is sub 3 stars...that isn't some ridiculous jump out of the page gap between teams. Maybe I should get some credit for building a good team though that fits

But none of us knew that until ratings dropped. We let you have him….Again!

[mpharris36]

I understand the cap argument, but y'all not telling me you couldn't get better for league MVP Nikola Jokic. Deeeez was being a homer and overpaid for RJ Barrett. Having a Knicks player is a great way to rip off someone in BaF but an MVP is next level lol.

that wasn't even the main piece of the deal. Suggs was the big piece (and unfortunately he's been injured). Robert Williams is a really good player. At the time Duarte was also having a really good rookie season (Mathurin and Haliburton acquisitions have kinda low key hurt his value) but at the time that was different.

Also parted with Anfernee Simons in the deal. All these guys were on cost controlled deals....and I got back two expirings.

If I remember correctly you we very high on Jalen Green in the draft, to the point I think you have a superstar at the time and said you would trade him straight up for him, not sure you would do that now. A lot of people but added value on rookie contracts too especially if they break out. If they don't it doesn't look as good but sometimes that is the gamble we take when trading for young guys if the projections don't reach our own valuations.

@Context


Sorry y’all it must be something in the curry I ate last night. I’m feeling just a little bit spicy today! Maybe I should log off

It was actually no shot at context. He has drafted a lot of good players. I was specifically just remembering E-balla said he would trade nearly anyone in the NBA for Green. Do we feel that holds true today? Sometimes we fall in love with prospects and they don't turn into what we hope. Its the gamble of the draft. And sometimes they develop later then we want in terms of holding onto them.

[NewEra]

I might as well throw it in here... DeMar is on the block. I'm not catching San Antonio at this rate and he's by far my best contract (4.5 stars, will be at least 4 stars next year, and is only on a $345/3 deal) so if there's any deals that might give me the edge that's it. If you're looking for a star to take you over the top and get your team up one level just let me know.

If we're doing a deal for another player I'd at least need another All Star level player back (maybe not an All Star, but on that tier) or a young great prospect I have at All Star potential. A star for star swap can also make sense if another team just wants to shake it up and hope DeMar can outperform their current star.

Also accepting cap dumps for him. If you can give me a usable role player or two while getting me at least $20 under the salary cap I'm probably also down for it.

Kemba (who's also looking like he'll maintain his ratings going into next year and is on a 3 year deal) and Holmes (playing him currently as a showcase off the bench. 3-0 so far in games where he's entered the rotation and he has a positive +/-) are available for if you want to take on a salary dump. I was going to reach out to teams but I realize with a lot of the guys traded already a bunch of the teams I want to contact might already have agreed to deals.

See what a little drama does? DeMar on the block BaF! Get him quick!!!

[mpharris36]

Joker was a lock to return to SAS this summer , but we let you walk away with Curry too. I think we all can agree you got a steal in that Joker trade. It happened and we all felt it (heck I got swept), but letting you retain Curry could've been prevented and well...it wasn't. I made a significant offer to him early, so I don't feel too bad lol.

Curry is not even a big time difference maker on my team(this year). I had to make some adjustments to the roster and team to combat what the SIM did to him.

Look at my star ratings. If you look up and down a lot of teams I don't jump out as a roster in the sim.

I have a 5 star, a 4, star and 2 3 stars everyone else is sub 3 stars...that isn't some ridiculous jump out of the page gap between teams. Maybe I should get some credit for building a good team though that fits

But none of us knew that until ratings dropped. We let you have him….Again!

E-balla was of the belief the SIM would hit him. He had a down year to his standards. He shot 43% from the field and 38% from 3....which are career lows. I don't know how the SIM does all there rating evaluations but Curry generally gotten shafted in terms of SIM rating...and I was very much expecting him to get dinged this year. Which he did. Its my other moves that get no credit and just the I made two good trades to end up where I am. It is what it is...

[E-Balla]

I understand the cap argument, but y'all not telling me you couldn't get better for league MVP Nikola Jokic. Deeeez was being a homer and overpaid for RJ Barrett. Having a Knicks player is a great way to rip off someone in BaF but an MVP is next level lol.

that wasn't even the main piece of the deal. Suggs was the big piece (and unfortunately he's been injured). Robert Williams is a really good player. At the time Duarte was also having a really good rookie season (Mathurin and Haliburton acquisitions have kinda low key hurt his value) but at the time that was different.

Also parted with Anfernee Simons in the deal. All these guys were on cost controlled deals....and I got back two expirings.

If I remember correctly you we very high on Jalen Green in the draft, to the point I think you have a superstar at the time and said you would trade him straight up for him, not sure you would do that now. A lot of people but added value on rookie contracts too especially if they break out. If they don't it doesn't look as good but sometimes that is the gamble we take when trading for young guys if the projections don't reach our own valuations.

If those guys aligned with Giannis' growth curve I'd understand it. As it is now that trade turned Deeez into a team with a star in his prime and a bunch of young up and comers that aren't good enough back up to give him the competitive edge in the West. Maybe Deeeez flips those guys to teams blowing it up for more established role players to help Giannis out or he trades Giannis and rebuilds with a bunch of young guys and Boston's picks...

[HEZI]

[Capn'O]

Me scrolling through that huge ass trade last year:

Spoiler:

And then I saw it:

Spoiler:

Deeeez probably had to move one of them or risk losing both. I just wish he hadn't sent him to those dastardly Spurs. I was a contendah! And then I wasn't.