Build a Franchise (Season 6) Discussion thread continued

[Buzzard]

Damn beal bomb

I want Kessler

[bishnykfan]

Owning the swap rights of the SAC pick before hand I could see how that could be confusing. You would need to know SAC traded his worse part of the pick to Indy to know you can't just send back the swap rights otherwise Indy would have gotten a nice surprise

But I could see how there could be confusion but I don't think a rule needs to be in place. Soul said he was up late so maybe that is why he was a bit confused but everyone should know there own pick situation.

Hopefully no harm was done for any team.

Honestly, if I was to propose any rule change at this point it would be to eliminate all pick swaps. They are getting increasingly difficult to keep track of especially when we add in protections on pick swaps. Allow teams to make trades without swaps would be my fix for these issues. If this is becoming an issue causing problems in trade discussions for teams, we can vote on that because I don't expect teams to go through all of the trades posted in the "transactions" page of the main thread to "follow the pick".

[E-Balla]

that is A LOT of offense, but not defense

i'm saying that with absolutely none either lol

My team is rated top 10 in defense while starting a worse defender than Beal at the 2 guard spot all year

Your offense is definitely going to improve in the playoffs. Much deadlier unless a team has 3 great defenders.

[E-Balla]

Owning the swap rights of the SAC pick before hand I could see how that could be confusing. You would need to know SAC traded his worse part of the pick to Indy to know you can't just send back the swap rights otherwise Indy would have gotten a nice surprise

But I could see how there could be confusion but I don't think a rule needs to be in place. Soul said he was up late so maybe that is why he was a bit confused but everyone should know there own pick situation.

Hopefully no harm was done for any team.

Honestly, if I was to propose any rule change at this point it would be to eliminate all pick swaps. They are getting increasingly difficult to keep track of especially when we add in protections on pick swaps. Allow teams to make trades without swaps would be my fix for these issues. If this is becoming an issue causing problems in trade discussions for teams, we can vote on that because I don't expect teams to go through all of the trades posted in the "transactions" page of the main thread to "follow the pick".

I like this too. It's mostly used to get around the Stephian Rule.

[2010]

Owning the swap rights of the SAC pick before hand I could see how that could be confusing. You would need to know SAC traded his worse part of the pick to Indy to know you can't just send back the swap rights otherwise Indy would have gotten a nice surprise

But I could see how there could be confusion but I don't think a rule needs to be in place. Soul said he was up late so maybe that is why he was a bit confused but everyone should know there own pick situation.

Hopefully no harm was done for any team.

Honestly, if I was to propose any rule change at this point it would be to eliminate all pick swaps. They are getting increasingly difficult to keep track of especially when we add in protections on pick swaps. Allow teams to make trades without swaps would be my fix for these issues. If this is becoming an issue causing problems in trade discussions for teams, we can vote on that because I don't expect teams to go through all of the trades posted in the "transactions" page of the main thread to "follow the pick".

I support the elimination of pick swaps going forward if it makes bish’s job easier and stops GMs from having to track picks causing trade hiccups.

But obviously the outstanding pick swaps should remain until they are executed.

[2010]

Owning the swap rights of the SAC pick before hand I could see how that could be confusing. You would need to know SAC traded his worse part of the pick to Indy to know you can't just send back the swap rights otherwise Indy would have gotten a nice surprise

But I could see how there could be confusion but I don't think a rule needs to be in place. Soul said he was up late so maybe that is why he was a bit confused but everyone should know there own pick situation.

Hopefully no harm was done for any team.

Honestly, if I was to propose any rule change at this point it would be to eliminate all pick swaps. They are getting increasingly difficult to keep track of especially when we add in protections on pick swaps. Allow teams to make trades without swaps would be my fix for these issues. If this is becoming an issue causing problems in trade discussions for teams, we can vote on that because I don't expect teams to go through all of the trades posted in the "transactions" page of the main thread to "follow the pick".

I like this too. It's mostly used to get around the Stephian Rule.

How are they used to get around the Stepien rule when swaps are always for picks from the same year?

If anything trading picks outright is what’s used to get around the Stepien rule and the ability to do that should remain intact.

[mpharris36]

Owning the swap rights of the SAC pick before hand I could see how that could be confusing. You would need to know SAC traded his worse part of the pick to Indy to know you can't just send back the swap rights otherwise Indy would have gotten a nice surprise

But I could see how there could be confusion but I don't think a rule needs to be in place. Soul said he was up late so maybe that is why he was a bit confused but everyone should know there own pick situation.

Hopefully no harm was done for any team.

Honestly, if I was to propose any rule change at this point it would be to eliminate all pick swaps. They are getting increasingly difficult to keep track of especially when we add in protections on pick swaps. Allow teams to make trades without swaps would be my fix for these issues. If this is becoming an issue causing problems in trade discussions for teams, we can vote on that because I don't expect teams to go through all of the trades posted in the "transactions" page of the main thread to "follow the pick".

If it makes your life easier and even though everyone should know the impact there own picks I wouldn't be opposed. We don't have as much league turnover as we use to which is great. But it probably comes increasingly confusing if it's a new GM trying to figure out stuff with swaps

Kinda like future considerations which we nix for good reason maybe this would cause less confusion going forward. You either trade a pick unprotected or protected but eliminates those wild swaps.

[mpharris36]

Owning the swap rights of the SAC pick before hand I could see how that could be confusing. You would need to know SAC traded his worse part of the pick to Indy to know you can't just send back the swap rights otherwise Indy would have gotten a nice surprise

But I could see how there could be confusion but I don't think a rule needs to be in place. Soul said he was up late so maybe that is why he was a bit confused but everyone should know there own pick situation.

Hopefully no harm was done for any team.

Honestly, if I was to propose any rule change at this point it would be to eliminate all pick swaps. They are getting increasingly difficult to keep track of especially when we add in protections on pick swaps. Allow teams to make trades without swaps would be my fix for these issues. If this is becoming an issue causing problems in trade discussions for teams, we can vote on that because I don't expect teams to go through all of the trades posted in the "transactions" page of the main thread to "follow the pick".

I support the elimination of pick swaps going forward if it makes bish’s job easier and stops GMs from having to track picks causing trade hiccups.

But obviously the outstanding pick swaps should remain until they are executed.

Oh yeah if this is agreed upon in the off-season any agreed to swap before had should and will be grandfathered in.

[bishnykfan]

Owning the swap rights of the SAC pick before hand I could see how that could be confusing. You would need to know SAC traded his worse part of the pick to Indy to know you can't just send back the swap rights otherwise Indy would have gotten a nice surprise

But I could see how there could be confusion but I don't think a rule needs to be in place. Soul said he was up late so maybe that is why he was a bit confused but everyone should know there own pick situation.

Hopefully no harm was done for any team.

Honestly, if I was to propose any rule change at this point it would be to eliminate all pick swaps. They are getting increasingly difficult to keep track of especially when we add in protections on pick swaps. Allow teams to make trades without swaps would be my fix for these issues. If this is becoming an issue causing problems in trade discussions for teams, we can vote on that because I don't expect teams to go through all of the trades posted in the "transactions" page of the main thread to "follow the pick".

I like this too. It's mostly used to get around the Stephian Rule.

Couple other things I'll mention for all GM's to make things run a bit smoother...in the future please delete any PM's you don't want me to open. If a trade falls through or if you want to pull out of a deal for whatever issue, it will save a lot of time to delete that PM so I don't open it, waste time copying it and looking for the confirmation(s) from the other teams. I generally work my way up my inbox from the PMs sitting in my inbox longest to most recently sent. If I have all the confirmations I will start processing the trade which takes a lot of time depending on how many players/picks.

Delete any PM's rather than writing another PM telling me to void a trade because I don't always get to that second PM on time.

Finally, teams only need to put their part of the trade into the PM. No copying and pasting an entire deal if that helps. Just your incoming/outgoing. If there are discrepancies from one team to the next, I will catch it and let teams know. That may help teams focus just on what they get/give. That isn't a big deal but may help make things more clear?

[2010]

Honestly, if I was to propose any rule change at this point it would be to eliminate all pick swaps. They are getting increasingly difficult to keep track of especially when we add in protections on pick swaps. Allow teams to make trades without swaps would be my fix for these issues. If this is becoming an issue causing problems in trade discussions for teams, we can vote on that because I don't expect teams to go through all of the trades posted in the "transactions" page of the main thread to "follow the pick".

I like this too. It's mostly used to get around the Stephian Rule.

Couple other things I'll mention for all GM's to make things run a bit smoother...in the future please delete any PM's you don't want me to open. If a trade falls through or if you want to pull out of a deal for whatever issue, it will save a lot of time to delete that PM so I don't open it, waste time copying it and looking for the confirmation(s) from the other teams. I generally work my way up my inbox from the PMs sitting in my inbox longest to most recently sent. If I have all the confirmations I will start processing the trade which takes a lot of time depending on how many players/picks.

Delete any PM's rather than writing another PM telling me to void a trade because I don't always get to that second PM on time.

Finally, teams only need to put their part of the trade into the PM. No copying and pasting an entire deal if that helps. Just your incoming/outgoing. If there are discrepancies from one team to the next, I will catch it and let teams know. That may help teams focus just on what they get/give. That isn't a big deal but may help make things more clear?

Yeah, when brokering a multi-team deal I always just send GMs their part of the deal and tell them to only send in their end as confirmation, while listing all involved teams in the subject line.

It’s great that it makes it easier for you, while also protecting the confidentiality of the full deal as a “need to know” basis only, for each team’s end.

I try to protect the full scope of the deal at all costs, unless absolutely necessary. Certain GMs tend to get greedy if they see the entire deal. They end up asking for more.

[br7knicks]

that is A LOT of offense, but not defense

i'm saying that with absolutely none either lol

My team is rated top 10 in defense while starting a worse defender than Beal at the 2 guard spot all year

In the SIM, you're probably right. Hell, for years, Harden had a defense rating of 80+.

Guess I should've clarified. IRL that's not a lot of defense.


That being said, you having those 3 together, and probably will be top 3 team

[br7knicks]

Owning the swap rights of the SAC pick before hand I could see how that could be confusing. You would need to know SAC traded his worse part of the pick to Indy to know you can't just send back the swap rights otherwise Indy would have gotten a nice surprise

But I could see how there could be confusion but I don't think a rule needs to be in place. Soul said he was up late so maybe that is why he was a bit confused but everyone should know there own pick situation.

Hopefully no harm was done for any team.

Honestly, if I was to propose any rule change at this point it would be to eliminate all pick swaps. They are getting increasingly difficult to keep track of especially when we add in protections on pick swaps. Allow teams to make trades without swaps would be my fix for these issues. If this is becoming an issue causing problems in trade discussions for teams, we can vote on that because I don't expect teams to go through all of the trades posted in the "transactions" page of the main thread to "follow the pick".

I like this too. It's mostly used to get around the Stephian Rule.

I'd second that. Too much of that **** hurts my brain.

[bishnykfan]

TRANSACTION

The Oklahoma City Thunder have agreed to a buyout with Justin Champagnie.

[Fat]

With my trade being respectfully vetoed I’m listening to offers for CJ mccolum

Irl stats 21ppg, 4.6 Rebs, 5.8 ast, fg%43, 39% from 3

[SOUL]

[Capn'O]

Down with pick swaps!!!

[NewEra]

What did I miss?

[NewEra]

Ooohh Denver going for it. Love that deal for Boston.

[Buzzard]

What did I miss?

Buzzard looks at GSW's lineup and thinks to himself, a probable 2nd round exit in the West. Then mumbles with smirk, who cares?

[HerSports85]

What did I miss?

we're waiting on you lol