Around the NBA - 2024-25 Season Continued - First post updated!

[JayTWill]

I don't think that 3 point shots should be hindered or legislated out of the game. I just wish teams, players, coaches, and trainers would regain some creativity. Basketball can be much more fun than just 3 point spamming.

"We wanna get up as many threes as possible."

And I might wanna go to sleep or change the channel

I’m a proponent of moving it back and tapering it off and the sidelines thereby eliminating the corner 3.

Moving the line back might help but I disagree about the corner 3. I think the degree of difficulty on the shot makes it worth keeping in the game.

What do you mean about the degree of difficulty on the shot? Are you talking about the corner three? I thought that was the shortest and easiest shot behind the three point line.

[HEZI]

Steph Curry might be washed. He looks old

[HarthorneWingo]

I’m a proponent of moving it back and tapering it off and the sidelines thereby eliminating the corner 3.

Moving the line back might help but I disagree about the corner 3. I think the degree of difficulty on the shot makes it worth keeping in the game.

What do you mean about the degree of difficulty on the shot? Are you talking about the corner three? I thought that was the shortest and easiest shot behind the three point line.

MDB, Jay makes a great point

[nykballa2k4]

The Jeremy Lin fans here were absolutely insane. Very aggressive and unwilling to discuss anything not pertaining to Lin.

Lin fan here - also very willing to say Brunson is the best pg since Lin and probably the best Knicks pg since Walt. Better than Lin (obviously) better than Marbury, better than Mark Jackson (both times).

You predate Linsanity. There was a group that came when he started playing well, and left when he left. You’re not one of those.

ahh.

Also the nicest way of telling me im getting old.

[nykballa2k4]

90-85 is generous a lot of those games were topping off at 75-68 at one point

The Pistons regularly held teams under 80.

The (real) Nets scored 56 against them in a Conference semi-finals game in 2004.

56

I remember that game, it was horrible. That was the beginning of the end for that group, Kerry Kittles got hurt and K Mart went to Denver right after.

Rip Hamilton and Tayshaun Prince were a nightmare to play against on the wing and the Wallace Boys were in the paint. Whoo boy.

I often think about what would have happened had they drafted Carmelo that that year.

I would gladly watch games that end with scores in the '80s.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Moving the line back might help but I disagree about the corner 3. I think the degree of difficulty on the shot makes it worth keeping in the game.

What do you mean about the degree of difficulty on the shot? Are you talking about the corner three? I thought that was the shortest and easiest shot behind the three point line.

MDB, Jay makes a great point

There's the depth perception issue without the backboard to use as a guide. It's the shortest three but is it really the easiest? No lucky bounces. No lucky bank shots if you shoot it long. Idk.

The idea of moving the line back and cutting it off at the sidelines may have a huge impact though. Who's gonna shoot from the corner for two? Probably force teams to move without the ball a lot more and cuts the basket go up. Idk. Trying to picture how teams would adjust.

[HarthorneWingo]

SGA likes to push off with that right hand/arm a lot. I can see why because the refs don’t seem to call it. lol

[HarthorneWingo]

What do you mean about the degree of difficulty on the shot? Are you talking about the corner three? I thought that was the shortest and easiest shot behind the three point line.

MDB, Jay makes a great point

There's the depth perception issue without the backboard to use as a guide. It's the shortest three but is it really the easiest? No lucky bounces. No lucky bank shots if you shoot it long. Idk.

The idea of moving the line back and cutting it off at the sidelines may have a huge impact though. Who's gonna shoot from the corner for two? Probably force teams to move without the ball a lot more and cuts the basket go up. Idk. Trying to picture how teams would adjust.

I don’t have any problem hitting corner jump shots.

[Jalen Bluntson]

MDB, Jay makes a great point

There's the depth perception issue without the backboard to use as a guide. It's the shortest three but is it really the easiest? No lucky bounces. No lucky bank shots if you shoot it long. Idk.

The idea of moving the line back and cutting it off at the sidelines may have a huge impact though. Who's gonna shoot from the corner for two? Probably force teams to move without the ball a lot more and cuts the basket go up. Idk. Trying to picture how teams would adjust.

I don’t have any problem hitting corner jump shots.

Stop lying! You have problems hitting the bowl when you pee!

[JayTWill]

What do you mean about the degree of difficulty on the shot? Are you talking about the corner three? I thought that was the shortest and easiest shot behind the three point line.

MDB, Jay makes a great point

There's the depth perception issue without the backboard to use as a guide. It's the shortest three but is it really the easiest? No lucky bounces. No lucky bank shots if you shoot it long. Idk.

The idea of moving the line back and cutting it off at the sidelines may have a huge impact though. Who's gonna shoot from the corner for two? Probably force teams to move without the ball a lot more and cuts the basket go up. Idk. Trying to picture how teams would adjust.

The league average shooting percentages are higher from the corner than they are above the break. Oddly enough the Knicks are one of the few teams that shoot better above the break than from the corner even with Mikal's dreadful shooting above the break.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/knicks-shot-chart-2025

[Jalen Bluntson]

MDB, Jay makes a great point

There's the depth perception issue without the backboard to use as a guide. It's the shortest three but is it really the easiest? No lucky bounces. No lucky bank shots if you shoot it long. Idk.

The idea of moving the line back and cutting it off at the sidelines may have a huge impact though. Who's gonna shoot from the corner for two? Probably force teams to move without the ball a lot more and cuts the basket go up. Idk. Trying to picture how teams would adjust.

The league average shooting percentages are higher from the corner than they are above the break. Oddly enough the Knicks are one of the few teams that shoot better above the break than from the corner even with Mikal's dreadful shooting above the break.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/knicks-shot-chart-2025

Fair enough. Is that the same volume though? Either way, if they move the line that shot probably goes WAY down as an option.

[HarthorneWingo]

There's the depth perception issue without the backboard to use as a guide. It's the shortest three but is it really the easiest? No lucky bounces. No lucky bank shots if you shoot it long. Idk.

The idea of moving the line back and cutting it off at the sidelines may have a huge impact though. Who's gonna shoot from the corner for two? Probably force teams to move without the ball a lot more and cuts the basket go up. Idk. Trying to picture how teams would adjust.

I don’t have any problem hitting corner jump shots.

Stop lying! You have problems hitting the bowl when you pee!

I can shoot from everywhere. Just give me the damn ball!

[Capn'O]

I don't think that 3 point shots should be hindered or legislated out of the game. I just wish teams, players, coaches, and trainers would regain some creativity. Basketball can be much more fun than just 3 point spamming.

"We wanna get up as many threes as possible."

And I might wanna go to sleep or change the channel

I’m a proponent of moving it back and tapering it off and the sidelines thereby eliminating the corner 3.

Yaaaaaaaaas!!!

[HarthorneWingo]

My man D’Andre Hunter dunk on Victor!!!

[Capn'O]

Meanwhile in San Antonio

[HEZI]

I watched some Celtics vs Bulls last night before the Knicks game and Celtics transition defense is just terrible. Teams that play fast and get downhill really give them problems and Bulls did just that. Saw a lot of frustration from the Celtics because they just seemed like they were constantly out of position and couldn’t stop what the Bulls were doing. Drive and kick destroyed them, it was just layups and open 3s.

I will say it again, Celtics defense doesn’t impress me, they are an offensive team just looking for a shootout and last night they lost that duel. Imagine if the Knicks let the Bulls shoot 52 threes?

But you know Thibs and scheme and stuff

[FrozenEnvelope]

My own personal suggestion to fix the current product would be award only 2 fts on fouled three-pointers and 3 fts on fouled 2-pointers inside the perimeter. This will encourage teams to attack the paint more and become less reliant on 3s.

Haven't heard that one and I like it! I'd also make the corner three 23'9" which of course would require you to make the court a little bigger.

[FrozenEnvelope]

I barely remember Rip shooting threes. He was deadly on those curl plays around the foul line/top of the key. Rip was a less stronger, athletic, more dirtier version of DeMar DeRozan (Dwayne Wade went into detail about how he used to dig his purposely long finger nails into people's arms).

You're right. I just think of him as an extension of Reggie Miller due to all his off-ball movement but he wasn't the three point shooter Reggie was. Of all the "he would be better today" BS arguments, Rip actually would be because coaches would put all those long twos a few steps back.

Yeah I can't see Rip being the same player if he came up in today's hoop culture. They would have had him shooting threes. there's a beauty to his game that will never be recaptured.

To circle back to the present day topic, I don't think it's bad per say to focus on the deep ball, but how many easy buckets are guys leaving on the floor because they pass up an open J by the foul line?

100%! As an old head the most I miss about the old NBA style besides the epic matchup's in the low post are the midrange masters like Rip who would run around 3 screens and shoot that middy. We used to do some of that with Starks and Hubert Davis.

I can so understand why the ratings are down. I mean if your team isn't good, why would you want to watch 80 games where each team just shoots 40 threes or the top scorer goes Iso? We are blessed to have our team who actually can shoot the 3 and they actually share the ball.

But man I'd give anything to feel that excitement and hype when Ewing was going up against Shaq or Hakeem or Admiral!

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[B8RcDeMktfxC]

My own personal suggestion to fix the current product would be award only 2 fts on fouled three-pointers and 3 fts on fouled 2-pointers inside the perimeter. This will encourage teams to attack the paint more and become less reliant on 3s.

Haven't heard that one and I like it! I'd also make the corner three 23'9" which of course would require you to make the court a little bigger.

Leave the court size the same and make them shoot from tiptoe to add to the difficulty.