New York Yankees Thread

HarthorneWingo · Post #1521 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Tue Feb 2, 2021 12:01 am

GEOLINK wrote:Well... this is, weird...

Read on Twitter

To the Red Sox? Even if O'Day has a great year and Ottavino has a crappy one, you know that if the Yankees play meaningful games in September, this one will undoubtedly come back and bite them in the ass. :lol:

GEOLINK · Post #1522 » by **GEOLINK** » Tue Feb 2, 2021 12:05 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
GEOLINK wrote:Well... this is, weird...

Read on Twitter

To the Red Sox? Even if O'Day has a great year and Ottavino has a crappy one, you know that if the Yankees play meaningful games in September, this one will undoubtedly come back and bite them in the ass.

As usual with Cashman and his overthinking.

If Ottovino has a great season the Red Sox can shop him for prospects.

HarthorneWingo · Post #1523 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Tue Feb 2, 2021 12:25 am

GEOLINK wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
GEOLINK wrote:Well... this is, weird...

Read on Twitter

To the Red Sox? Even if O'Day has a great year and Ottavino has a crappy one, you know that if the Yankees play meaningful games in September, this one will undoubtedly come back and bite them in the ass.

As usual with Cashman and his overthinking.

If Ottovino has a great season the Red Sox can shop him for prospects.

It won't make any difference. When the Baseball Gods see an opportunity they hardly ever miss it. Look at the Yankees' 2021 schedule and whichever team you play the last weekend of the season, that's the team that Ottavino will be on. :lol:

GIMME_DATT · Post #1524 » by **GIMME_DATT** » Fri Feb 5, 2021 8:29 pm

Dodgers win title.. spend big pay luxury tax

Yankees nah man...let's see if we can get lucky shopping for free agents

Jump Shot · Post #1525 » by **Jump Shot** » Fri Feb 5, 2021 11:27 pm

GIMME_DATT wrote:Dodgers win title.. spend big pay luxury tax

Yankees nah man...let's see if we can get lucky shopping for free agents

They need to save some of that money to resign Brett :banghead:

NYKinMIA · Post #1526 » by **NYKinMIA** » Sat Feb 6, 2021 12:22 am

I'm getting itchy as a mafuqa.

thebuzzardman · Post #1527 » by **thebuzzardman** » Sat Feb 6, 2021 12:26 am

GIMME_DATT wrote:Dodgers win title.. spend big pay luxury tax

Yankees nah man...let's see if we can get lucky shopping for free agents

At least the Mets lost out

msanchez2725 · Post #1528 » by **msanchez2725** » Sat Feb 6, 2021 12:33 am

Despite all of his flaws, I really miss George. He wouldn’t stand for this complacency. Win at all costs has been gone for a while. All hail the corporate Yankees.

GEOLINK · Post #1529 » by **GEOLINK** » Sat Feb 6, 2021 7:21 am

Red Sox and Dodgers have won the World Series last couple of years by spending money.

Steinbrenners rather waste years of this core group and be the team that gets eliminated by the eventual WS team than to actually be one.

Oscirus · Post #1530 » by **Oscirus** » Sun Feb 7, 2021 12:36 am

how does cashman still have a job when he keeps doing clown **** despite having more money to play around with than most gms out there?

blue and orange · Post #1531 » by **blue and orange** » Sun Feb 7, 2021 5:51 am

Bauer was gonna be signing with a California team all along as hes from there, Yankees couldve at least offered a deal. Wouldnt have been crazy about giving Bauer 100 mill however its only a 3 year deal, he can be his usual self with twitter and no one will even care as hes a small fish in a big pond in LA.

blue and orange · Post #1532 » by **blue and orange** » Sun Feb 7, 2021 5:56 am

Oscirus wrote:how does cashman still have a job when he keeps doing clown **** despite having more money to play around with than most gms out there?

I have read the book inside the empire, and the Yankees since George was gone, are satisfied with making the playoffs they see the playoffs as anything can happen. Yes of course thats true but just a very poor mentality to have while the Dodgers have a never be satisfied attitude. I think Cashman likes to try and outdo his friend Billy Beane in finding trash and turning it into gold. Not saying the Yankees dont wanna win a world series it just their attitude is make the playoffs, while the Dodgers attitude is championship or bust.

SelbyCobra · Post #1533 » by **SelbyCobra** » Sun Feb 7, 2021 3:13 pm

msanchez2725 wrote:Despite all of his flaws, I really miss George. He wouldn’t stand for this complacency. Win at all costs has been gone for a while. All hail the corporate Yankees.

I'm not down with the bean-counting approach of the current regime, but I don't miss George even a little. The man was a trash owner whose only admirable move was to be on the ground floor of free agency in the 70's and exploit it with cash. Almost everything after that was nothing but cringe and train wreck. He threw money around, but it was the only song he knew and was he always was doing something to undermine the team.

Post #1534 » by **moocow007** » Mon Feb 8, 2021 10:48 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
GIMME_DATT wrote:Dodgers win title.. spend big pay luxury tax

Yankees nah man...let's see if we can get lucky shopping for free agents

At least the Mets lost out

That's the one plus lol.

A positive way to look at this is this...the Dodgers didn't need him to be the best team in the majors so at least we don't have to listen to the insufferable Met fans peacocking themselves like Wingo would have.

KnicksGadfly · Post #1535 » by **KnicksGadfly** » Mon Feb 8, 2021 10:49 pm

Yankees jealous of the Rays when the Rays are jealous of us. Backwards ass world we live in.

Post #1536 » by **moocow007** » Mon Feb 8, 2021 10:50 pm

blue and orange wrote:
Oscirus wrote:how does cashman still have a job when he keeps doing clown **** despite having more money to play around with than most gms out there?

I have read the book inside the empire, and the Yankees since George was gone, are satisfied with making the playoffs they see the playoffs as anything can happen. Yes of course thats true but just a very poor mentality to have while the Dodgers have a never be satisfied attitude. I think Cashman likes to try and outdo his friend Billy Beane in finding trash and turning it into gold. Not saying the Yankees dont wanna win a world series it just their attitude is make the playoffs, while the Dodgers attitude is championship or bust.

Pretty much. This may have worked even 5 years ago, but teams are clearly willing to now play in the same field as the Yankees so it's less likely that this approach will ever allow them to win the ultimate prize. They might...if enough things go right. But chances are probably not great.

thebuzzardman · Post #1537 » by **thebuzzardman** » Tue Feb 9, 2021 12:45 am

moocow007 wrote:
blue and orange wrote:
Oscirus wrote:how does cashman still have a job when he keeps doing clown **** despite having more money to play around with than most gms out there?

I have read the book inside the empire, and the Yankees since George was gone, are satisfied with making the playoffs they see the playoffs as anything can happen. Yes of course thats true but just a very poor mentality to have while the Dodgers have a never be satisfied attitude. I think Cashman likes to try and outdo his friend Billy Beane in finding trash and turning it into gold. Not saying the Yankees dont wanna win a world series it just their attitude is make the playoffs, while the Dodgers attitude is championship or bust.

Pretty much. This may have worked even 5 years ago, but teams are clearly willing to now play in the same field as the Yankees so it's less likely that this approach will ever allow them to win the ultimate prize. They might...if enough things go right. But chances are probably not great.

There are a bunch of very rich owners now, not just a few. In fact, I'm not sure if there are ANY owners who are not excessively wealthy.
More than a few of them are willing to spend.

The tax scheme, which MLB should consider getting rid of now considering how many owners are incredibly wealthy has led to the handful of rich, but still cheap owners, having some more pocket money to spend on valuable items, mainly starting pitching.

Yanks probably spend as much or more, by %, as they used to, it's just there are now a handful of teams that will look to match them or exceed them, every year. Some are regulars (Dodgers) others get in and out of the big spending circle. Point is, there are always at least 3 to 5 teams willing to go $ for $ with them each year. And other teams who find themselves flush/needing to spend.

George definitely would have pushed more cash/cards on the table if the team was close, but George was also incredibly reckless and meddled and the team has less long term success than the current model.

Yet, I too am frustrated at the Yanks basically being content with being the Atlanta Braves of the recent past:

Always a good team
Definitely would make some moves and sign the occasional FA
Good organization
Generally in the playoffs
Rarely good enough to get over the hump and win it all
Rarely made moves to get over the hump and win it all
Quite content to cash large checks from a large, VERY profitable regional cable TV network.

/rant

Polk377 · Post #1538 » by **Polk377** » Tue Feb 9, 2021 10:14 pm

blue and orange wrote:
Oscirus wrote:how does cashman still have a job when he keeps doing clown **** despite having more money to play around with than most gms out there?

I have read the book inside the empire, and the Yankees since George was gone, are satisfied with making the playoffs they see the playoffs as anything can happen. Yes of course thats true but just a very poor mentality to have while the Dodgers have a never be satisfied attitude. I think Cashman likes to try and outdo his friend Billy Beane in finding trash and turning it into gold. Not saying the Yankees dont wanna win a world series it just their attitude is make the playoffs, while the Dodgers attitude is championship or bust.

The Dodgers are also a financial powerhouse far exceeding the capital the Steinbrenner's have to spend on a yearly basis. The Yankees don't have the financial advantage anymore like they used to. They will still sign big time players but can't afford to pay everyone on the roster big time money.

blueNorange · Post #1539 » by **blueNorange** » Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:39 am

moocow007 wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
GIMME_DATT wrote:Dodgers win title.. spend big pay luxury tax

Yankees nah man...let's see if we can get lucky shopping for free agents

At least the Mets lost out

That's the one plus lol.

A positive way to look at this is this...the Dodgers didn't need him to be the best team in the majors so at least we don't have to listen to the insufferable Met fans peacocking themselves like Wingo would have.

i mean the mets still technically acquired the best player in the offseason. :wink:

ccvle · Post #1540 » by **ccvle** » Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:18 pm

blue and orange wrote:
Oscirus wrote:how does cashman still have a job when he keeps doing clown **** despite having more money to play around with than most gms out there?

I have read the book inside the empire, and the Yankees since George was gone, are satisfied with making the playoffs they see the playoffs as anything can happen. Yes of course thats true but just a very poor mentality to have while the Dodgers have a never be satisfied attitude. I think Cashman likes to try and outdo his friend Billy Beane in finding trash and turning it into gold. Not saying the Yankees dont wanna win a world series it just their attitude is make the playoffs, while the Dodgers attitude is championship or bust.

You dont commit almost 700 millions in stanton and Cole just the goal of making the playoffs.