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2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2

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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1521 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Tue Apr 6, 2021 2:20 am

Guano wrote:
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Guano wrote:also kispert is a no for me


maybe in a more open nba game his shot will be worth more. but he can't guard anyone and he hasn't done sht the past two games.



He's a shooter with good size and a good frame, scouts look at him and see Harris and Robinson.



I'm sure he would help with teams embarrassing by playing zone against us like we're some park rec team. but he is going to get absolutely worked by wings. maybe Mitch can mask his defensive deficiencies. that said he feels like a luxury that we're not ready for



I wouldn't take him in the lottery, you can find great shooters later in the draft but I get why he's getting hype. There will be someone who can do the same thing as him taken later on, look for this years Desmond Bane. When it comes to specialist shooters, better to just look for them in the 2nd round IMO.
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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1522 » by knickstape4ever » Tue Apr 6, 2021 2:23 am

Guano wrote:
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3toheadmelo wrote:I have no idea why he’s mocked as a lottery pick


fingers crossed we don't draft him

I can absolutely see Thibs wanting him b/c he's older and more "NBA ready"

history of 22 y/o lotto picks is bad.....and hopefully Obi is a cautionary tale for them



i'm completely ok with us taking mitchell and he is old af, too


22 and older Top-20 picks since 2008
PLAYER AGE (YEARS.DAYS) PICK — DRAFT YEAR
Tyler Hansborough
23.240
13th — 2009

Buddy Hield
23.194
6th — 2016

Adrien Payne
23.133
15th — 2014

Cameron Johnson
23.114
11th — 2019

Delon Wright
23.065
20th — 2015

Ekpe Udoh
23.041
6th — 2010

Brandon Rush
22.360
13th — 2008

Wesley Johnson
22.354
4th — 2010

Jerian Grant
22.264
19th — 2015

Obi Toppin
22.258
8th— 2020

Denzel Valentine
22.225
14th — 2016

Andrew Nicholson
22.208
19th — 2012

Doug McDermott
22.180
11th — 2014

Tyler Zeller
22.168
17th — 2012

Hasheem Thabeet
22.135
2nd — 2009

James Johsnon
22.131
16th — 2009

Jimmer Fredette
22.123
10th — 2011

Matisse Thybulle
22.113
20th — 2019

Kris Dunn
22.103
5th — 2016

Taureen Prince
22.099
12th — 2016

Justin Jackson
22.092
15th — 2017

Frank Kaminsky
22.087
9th — 2015

Kelly Olynyk
22.075
13th — 2013

Eric Maynor
22.020
20th — 2009

Terrance Williams
22.003
11th — 2009

I'm a big Mitchell fan and watching him, he reminds me of a poor man's, less athletic/explosive Donovan Mitchell

obviously every situation/player is different, but the draft history of 22 y/o's is bad, and no stars have emerged from that group
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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1523 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Tue Apr 6, 2021 2:29 am

knickstape4ever wrote:
Guano wrote:
knickstape4ever wrote:
fingers crossed we don't draft him

I can absolutely see Thibs wanting him b/c he's older and more "NBA ready"

history of 22 y/o lotto picks is bad.....and hopefully Obi is a cautionary tale for them



i'm completely ok with us taking mitchell and he is old af, too


22 and older Top-20 picks since 2008
PLAYER AGE (YEARS.DAYS) PICK — DRAFT YEAR
Tyler Hansborough
23.240
13th — 2009

Buddy Hield
23.194
6th — 2016

Adrien Payne
23.133
15th — 2014

Cameron Johnson
23.114
11th — 2019

Delon Wright
23.065
20th — 2015

Ekpe Udoh
23.041
6th — 2010

Brandon Rush
22.360
13th — 2008

Wesley Johnson
22.354
4th — 2010

Jerian Grant
22.264
19th — 2015

Obi Toppin
22.258
8th— 2020

Denzel Valentine
22.225
14th — 2016

Andrew Nicholson
22.208
19th — 2012

Doug McDermott
22.180
11th — 2014

Tyler Zeller
22.168
17th — 2012

Hasheem Thabeet
22.135
2nd — 2009

James Johsnon
22.131
16th — 2009

Jimmer Fredette
22.123
10th — 2011

Matisse Thybulle
22.113
20th — 2019

Kris Dunn
22.103
5th — 2016

Taureen Prince
22.099
12th — 2016

Justin Jackson
22.092
15th — 2017

Frank Kaminsky
22.087
9th — 2015

Kelly Olynyk
22.075
13th — 2013

Eric Maynor
22.020
20th — 2009

Terrance Williams
22.003
11th — 2009

I'm a big Mitchell fan and watching him, he reminds me of a poor man's, less athletic/explosive Donovan Mitchell

obviously every situation/player is different, but the draft history of 22 y/o's is bad, and no stars have emerged from that group



Mitchell's shot may not be real either, he's shooting 63% from the line and hasn't shot over 70% from the line in three years. A 22 year old small guard that can't make freethrows? Scary stuff.
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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1524 » by El Poochio » Tue Apr 6, 2021 2:31 am

Wasnt Dame 22
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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1525 » by Guano » Tue Apr 6, 2021 2:39 am

El Poochio wrote:Wasnt Dame 22


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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1526 » by Guano » Tue Apr 6, 2021 2:42 am

El Poochio wrote:Wasnt Dame 22


well damn - he was
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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1527 » by Juco24 » Tue Apr 6, 2021 2:42 am

I want Butler to the Knicks
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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1528 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Tue Apr 6, 2021 2:43 am

CJ and Dame shot 85% and 89% from the line their last years in college, Mitchell is at 63%.
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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1529 » by HerSports85 » Tue Apr 6, 2021 2:50 am

Butler is the floor general I want for our second unit. He’s the pick!
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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1530 » by Zenzibar » Tue Apr 6, 2021 2:50 am

Baylor has some guards right around where we're picking right now.

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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1531 » by Fat » Tue Apr 6, 2021 2:50 am

Juco24 wrote:I want Butler to the Knicks


Knicks are allergic to point guards that can shoot
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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1532 » by 3toheadmelo » Tue Apr 6, 2021 3:01 am

Even though Butler missed that 3, that step back was filthy
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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1533 » by HerSports85 » Tue Apr 6, 2021 3:04 am

Mitchell defense is elite.
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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1534 » by robillionaire » Tue Apr 6, 2021 3:05 am

I’m hoping Gonzaga loses I guess
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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1535 » by HEZI » Tue Apr 6, 2021 3:07 am

As good as the guard play is in this game, there is no doubt the best player is Suggs and he's just a freshman
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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1536 » by knickstape4ever » Tue Apr 6, 2021 3:09 am

Guano wrote:
El Poochio wrote:Wasnt Dame 22


cj


Mitchell is almost a year older than Dame and CJ
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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1537 » by Fat » Tue Apr 6, 2021 3:11 am

Kispert just did a Randle travel lol
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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1538 » by Fat » Tue Apr 6, 2021 3:16 am

Mitchell gets anywhere he wants on the floor
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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1539 » by HEZI » Tue Apr 6, 2021 3:19 am

Angryfatboy wrote:Mitchell gets anywhere he wants on the floor


That in and out dribble is stupid quick
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Re: 2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2 

Post#1540 » by 3toheadmelo » Tue Apr 6, 2021 3:24 am

knickstape4ever wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
Guano wrote:also kispert is a no for me


maybe in a more open nba game his shot will be worth more. but he can't guard anyone and he hasn't done sht the past two games.

I have no idea why he’s mocked as a lottery pick


fingers crossed we don't draft him

I can absolutely see Thibs wanting him b/c he's older and more "NBA ready"

history of 22 y/o lotto picks is bad.....and hopefully Obi is a cautionary tale for them

With the #9th pick the New York Knicks select Corey kispert. Seems inevitable :lol:
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