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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1521 » by mpharris36 » Tue Jul 8, 2025 4:00 pm

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stuporman wrote:Plus the Griz also signed Jock Landale? Geeze man

Knicks refuse to do anything about the center depth, they better hope Huk can contribute in the rotation because Mitch won't be healthy the whole season and just having one other 7 footer in KAT is not going to cut it.

I like Yabuty but him being a small ball 5 is only a match up situational thing, not something you want to employ every game because of an injury.


If they dont sign or trade for a more defensive 4/5, it will signal a potential seismic shift in x and o philosophy next year. That could be good or bad. Mitch is just way to injury prone and KAT is better utilized in many other ways than rim protection.


I'm pretty sure KAT is starting at the 5...so Mitch/Huk/Yabu and I'm guessing there 2nd round pick signing will be that Nnaji kid we should have plenty of depth at the 5.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1522 » by KnixinSix » Tue Jul 8, 2025 4:03 pm

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stuporman wrote:Plus the Griz also signed Jock Landale? Geeze man

Knicks refuse to do anything about the center depth, they better hope Huk can contribute in the rotation because Mitch won't be healthy the whole season and just having one other 7 footer in KAT is not going to cut it.

I like Yabuty but him being a small ball 5 is only a match up situational thing, not something you want to employ every game because of an injury.


If they dont sign or trade for a more defensive 4/5, it will signal a potential seismic shift in x and o philosophy next year. That could be good or bad. Mitch is just way to injury prone and KAT is better utilized in many other ways than rim protection.


I'm pretty sure KAT is starting at the 5...so Mitch/Huk/Yabu and I'm guessing there 2nd round pick signing will be that Nnaji kid we should have plenty of depth at the 5.


I hear you but all kind of carry high risk for different reasons.

Mitch: Proven but huge injury risk.
Yabu: not a great rim protector.
Huk/Nanji etc: Very green. Therefore unproven along with development period as an unknown as well.

Who knows maybe plan is you ride Mitch 15- 20 minutes a night in regular season and then more in the playoffs.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1523 » by mpharris36 » Tue Jul 8, 2025 4:16 pm

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If they dont sign or trade for a more defensive 4/5, it will signal a potential seismic shift in x and o philosophy next year. That could be good or bad. Mitch is just way to injury prone and KAT is better utilized in many other ways than rim protection.


I'm pretty sure KAT is starting at the 5...so Mitch/Huk/Yabu and I'm guessing there 2nd round pick signing will be that Nnaji kid we should have plenty of depth at the 5.


I hear you but all kind of carry high risk for different reasons.

Mitch: Proven but huge injury risk.
Yabu: not a great rim protector.
Huk/Nanji etc: Very green. Therefore unproven along with development period as an unknown as well.

Who knows maybe plan is you ride Mitch 15- 20 minutes a night in regular season and then more in the playoffs.


Huk is going to be the same as when Sims was here...they like him he had promising rim protection stats...I'm just not sure you can cover ever weakness. They have enough to manage.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1524 » by sol537 » Tue Jul 8, 2025 4:19 pm

I think you start Mitch and play him 20 mins a night then you get Hart and Deuce to 24 mins each. This way, those three can get into a nice rhythm. Yabu and Clarkson can get 15-22 mins each depending on situations. Gotta keep starters under 32 mins. Sacrifice personal stats for the greater good and play a faster pace so there’s more stats to go around.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1525 » by KnixinSix » Tue Jul 8, 2025 5:16 pm

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I'm pretty sure KAT is starting at the 5...so Mitch/Huk/Yabu and I'm guessing there 2nd round pick signing will be that Nnaji kid we should have plenty of depth at the 5.


I hear you but all kind of carry high risk for different reasons.

Mitch: Proven but huge injury risk.
Yabu: not a great rim protector.
Huk/Nanji etc: Very green. Therefore unproven along with development period as an unknown as well.

Who knows maybe plan is you ride Mitch 15- 20 minutes a night in regular season and then more in the playoffs.




Huk is going to be the same as when Sims was here...they like him he had promising rim protection stats...I'm just not sure you can cover ever weakness. They have enough to manage.



Possible yeah.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1526 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Jul 8, 2025 7:05 pm

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I’m sure but if nobody is offering it to him then he might have to just take what he can get

If I was him, I’d look to come to a winning situation and see if I could contribute to a ring. I don’t know what kind of personality Chris has. Maybe NY isn’t for him.

Having watched both as a Raptors fan, I rate Precious above Boucher. Not sure where money fits in though

Doesn’t Boucher shoots the 3 better?

For the record, I’d be fine with bringing Precious back.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1527 » by thebuzzardman » Tue Jul 8, 2025 7:31 pm

Getting bored. Knicks need to add a last washed up vet
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1528 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Jul 8, 2025 7:34 pm

Any truth to the Marcus Smart stuff?
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1529 » by Besart19 » Tue Jul 8, 2025 7:43 pm

No need to start Mitch... we need to run more to start the game in th3 1st and 3rd quarters... McBride makes more sense
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1530 » by ophdog » Tue Jul 8, 2025 7:43 pm

We are oddly not connected to many of the current guys like Beal and brogdon. Kind of interesting. Hope Leon has a truck up his sleeve. Love the additions especially yabu but we have too many poor shooters still and there is only so much scheming you can do to hide the Brunson Kat defensive issues.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1531 » by mpharris36 » Tue Jul 8, 2025 7:44 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:Any truth to the Marcus Smart stuff?


truth in the sense that if he's bought out the Knicks would have interest? Probably since they have had interest in him the last couple years...whether it was trading for him before Memphis did or if he eventually was going to get bought out.

But Washington hasn't bought him out yet (so all speculative right now)...if they do I would guess we would be one of the team with serious interest for the vet min.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1532 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Jul 8, 2025 7:48 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:Any truth to the Marcus Smart stuff?


truth in the sense that if he's bought out the Knicks would have interest? Probably since they have had interest in him the last couple years...whether it was trading for him before Memphis did or if he eventually was going to get bought out.

But Washington hasn't bought him out yet (so all speculative right now)...if they do I would guess we would be one of the team with serious interest for the vet min.


He can run some PG so I'd be down for it, I kinda think it's redundant though since we have Deuce.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1533 » by mpharris36 » Tue Jul 8, 2025 7:52 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:Any truth to the Marcus Smart stuff?


truth in the sense that if he's bought out the Knicks would have interest? Probably since they have had interest in him the last couple years...whether it was trading for him before Memphis did or if he eventually was going to get bought out.

But Washington hasn't bought him out yet (so all speculative right now)...if they do I would guess we would be one of the team with serious interest for the vet min.


He can run some PG so I'd be down for it, I kinda think it's redundant though since we have Deuce.


well if Deuce is really going to start...having Smart and Clarkson come off the bench would be pretty nice.

Smart/Clarkson/Hart/Yabu/Mitch backup unit would be pretty solid. You can easily mix and match those 5 with the starters.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1534 » by Knicksfan1992 » Tue Jul 8, 2025 8:16 pm

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truth in the sense that if he's bought out the Knicks would have interest? Probably since they have had interest in him the last couple years...whether it was trading for him before Memphis did or if he eventually was going to get bought out.

But Washington hasn't bought him out yet (so all speculative right now)...if they do I would guess we would be one of the team with serious interest for the vet min.


He can run some PG so I'd be down for it, I kinda think it's redundant though since we have Deuce.


well if Deuce is really going to start...having Smart and Clarkson come off the bench would be pretty nice.

Smart/Clarkson/Hart/Yabu/Mitch backup unit would be pretty solid. You can easily mix and match those 5 with the starters.


I am in favor of getting Smart but, I would have some concern about the "brickiness" potential of that backup unit.

Smart and Clarkson are not afraid to shoot and, in turn, miss a lot :lol:

Hopefully the relative good efficiency of Hart Yabu and Mitch would help offset it.

I would be salivating at the thought of having the below defensive personnel to deploy around Brunson and KAT on any given night though:

OG
Bridges
Smart
Hart
Deuce
Mitch

That's 6 legitimate plus defenders in your rotation.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1535 » by mpharris36 » Tue Jul 8, 2025 8:25 pm

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He can run some PG so I'd be down for it, I kinda think it's redundant though since we have Deuce.


well if Deuce is really going to start...having Smart and Clarkson come off the bench would be pretty nice.

Smart/Clarkson/Hart/Yabu/Mitch backup unit would be pretty solid. You can easily mix and match those 5 with the starters.


I am in favor of getting Smart but, I would have some concern about the "brickiness" potential of that backup unit.

Smart and Clarkson are not afraid to shoot and, in turn, miss a lot :lol:

Hopefully the relative good efficiency of Hart Yabu and Mitch would help offset it.

I would be salivating at the thought of having the below defensive personnel to deploy around Brunson and KAT on any given night though:

OG
Bridges
Smart
Hart
Deuce
Mitch

That's 6 legitimate plus defenders in your rotation.


I don't think in any situation you should have all 5 guys on the bench together...no hockey lineups even though thibs wasn't great at staggering.

Brunson or KAT should always be in the lineup if you stagger correctly. That is where the offense should run through. For example you can easily put Smart next to Brunson if you needed. Same with you have the potential to go big or small depending on matchups.

I just wouldn't start Smart over Deuce...because teams would probably treat Smart like Hart and they would live and die with him shooting us out of games...Deuce even though he had a little regression shooting..was still around league avg and I feel in terms of wide open C&S he is one of our more lethal guys.

Basically everything is to unlock the full capability of KAT. We saw early last year...a center had no chance to guard KAT...our offense was humming...that is what we need to replicate as much as possible,


Also with vet min guys like Clarkson and if they go the Smart route if he gets bought out you should have a quick hook with them...they are vets so they either buy in or not...they aren't in utah or washington either...no more green light for terrible shot selection because we have better options.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1536 » by knicks1999 » Tue Jul 8, 2025 8:28 pm

The Wizards have 2 possible buyouts is Middleton and Smart
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1537 » by spree2kawhi » Tue Jul 8, 2025 8:43 pm

knicks1999 wrote:The Wizards have 2 possible buyouts is Middleton and Smart

Middleton sure would be nice.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1538 » by WaltFrazier » Tue Jul 8, 2025 8:49 pm

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HarthorneWingo wrote:If I was him, I’d look to come to a winning situation and see if I could contribute to a ring. I don’t know what kind of personality Chris has. Maybe NY isn’t for him.

Having watched both as a Raptors fan, I rate Precious above Boucher. Not sure where money fits in though

Doesn’t Boucher shoots the 3 better?

For the record, I’d be fine with bringing Precious back.

Yes Boucher is streaky from 3 but shoots it better than Achiuwa. Not sure of the stats but I think it's so. Boucher is not the same kind of defender though, much lighter, gets pushed around. Hustles and closes out very well. Not a high IQ player, but neither is Precious. Nurse used to sub them in together a lot which drove me crazy, play became scrambly with the pair of them. I felt like Thibs made Precious stick to a limited role of his strengths
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1539 » by WaltFrazier » Tue Jul 8, 2025 8:53 pm

Besart19 wrote:No need to start Mitch... we need to run more to start the game in th3 1st and 3rd quarters... McBride makes more sense

One thing about starting Mitch, if KAT gets in quick foul trouble you don't have Mitch to bring in. And Mitch shouldn't start and then play extra long because of Kat fouls. Mitch is better in short to medium shifts
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1540 » by VirginiaKnickFan » Tue Jul 8, 2025 9:01 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
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HarthorneWingo wrote:If I was him, I’d look to come to a winning situation and see if I could contribute to a ring. I don’t know what kind of personality Chris has. Maybe NY isn’t for him.

Having watched both as a Raptors fan, I rate Precious above Boucher. Not sure where money fits in though

Doesn’t Boucher shoots the 3 better?

For the record, I’d be fine with bringing Precious back.


Precious is redundant with Yabusele.

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