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Re: Countdown to Lottery: Prospect Talk 

Post#15361 » by Workforce250 » Tue May 19, 2015 12:21 pm

Leeroy Jenkins wrote:I'm worried about landing 3 or 4 and Phil taking WCS or Kaminsky over Russell or Mudiay. I really get the feeling Phil wants a big from this draft no matter what.



Feeling the same here.
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Re: Countdown to Lottery: Prospect Talk 

Post#15362 » by 2010 » Tue May 19, 2015 12:34 pm

I'm so dedicated to the mission, I've been listening to the Grateful Dead Satellite XM 23 station all morning, since that's Phil Jackson's favorite Rock band (and I don't even funk wit that type of music). But anything to facilitate our plight!

By the way, they got a song called "Morning Dew" that's pretty good. Would make a dope hip hop sample if a producer flip it right.
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Re: Countdown to Lottery: Prospect Talk 

Post#15363 » by bigfnjoe96 » Tue May 19, 2015 12:36 pm

Mystery stud Mudiay: Phil Jackson would make me a star

“He knows how to win and make players better. If I’m lucky enough to play for him, I’d definitely try to pick his brain at anything. I already know he’ll make me into a great basketball player".


“I’m big on winning,’’ Mudiay said. “I want to show I’m a winner and leader — lead by example on the court and off. I think making my other teammates better is my main thing.’’


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Re: Countdown to Lottery: Prospect Talk 

Post#15364 » by knickstape21 » Tue May 19, 2015 12:37 pm

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Melo is officially a PF! He's can't be getting brolic like that to play SF.

He looks that big because he's in the middle of lifting. He's probably just back to his normal 240-250 instead of the 230 he was at last year.


This.

I look pretty big in the middle of a workout also...

BUT he does look like he's in shape physically, which is obviously a good sign.
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Re: Countdown to Lottery: Prospect Talk 

Post#15365 » by dakomish23 » Tue May 19, 2015 12:38 pm

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dakomish23 wrote:I know I'm in the minority but I think Okafor is the can't miss guy. And we need a can't miss guy

Agreed. It's like people talking themselves outta Blake Griffin when it was clear that he was the best player coming out that year.
The kid is 19 with such an advanced feel. In the pros he's gonna improve his deficiencies. I like KAT but I like what I've heard...the alleged jump shot and perimeter abilities. I don't know for certain that his skill set translates because I didn't seen it during his time in Kentucky. I don't know if he's a good as billed on defense because he had the luxury of playing with the best defensive big in college in WCS. He also was a foul magnet in his limited time. I'm not bashing him but if we pick first we should pick Okafor. More so than any other lotto team, we need a guy, a big guy that can be be an offensive focal point. But the truth is if we pick top four we are getting a good player. My guy though is Jah.



Towns really had like 2 months of solid play while Okafor played well all season. I hope we don't get the first pick because it will force Phil to take Towns. Okafor will become an all-star much quicker just because of the sheer fact that he can score points. People are so adamant that he won't improve his defense. Why? He's 19 years old, he just needs to get wit the right coaching staff.

I remember when people said Drummond didn't have a motor, that he was lazy blah blah blah. Look at him now, might be the 2nd best pick in that draft class.


What I don't get is why fans and the media are acting like this is his ceiling? So Towns can have all this potential because of his age and we can use the excuse "it's because KY used him that way" but that doesn't apply to Okafor?

The kid was a freshman. He has just as much upside as anyone in this draft. And based on what I've seen, he's the one true dominant force in the top 4
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Re: Countdown to Lottery: Prospect Talk 

Post#15366 » by Knicksfan1992 » Tue May 19, 2015 12:45 pm

bigfnjoe96 wrote:Mystery stud Mudiay: Phil Jackson would make me a star

“He knows how to win and make players better. If I’m lucky enough to play for him, I’d definitely try to pick his brain at anything. I already know he’ll make me into a great basketball player".


“I’m big on winning,’’ Mudiay said. “I want to show I’m a winner and leader — lead by example on the court and off. I think making my other teammates better is my main thing.’’


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:pray: If we get the 3rd pick don't let this kid get away from us. I salivate at the though of Him and Galloway getting after people defensively.
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Re: Countdown to Lottery: Prospect Talk 

Post#15367 » by NYKnicksTAPE » Tue May 19, 2015 12:49 pm

Today is the day!!! I just finished my last goat sacrifice....may the chips fall where they may
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Re: Countdown to Lottery: Prospect Talk 

Post#15368 » by 2010 » Tue May 19, 2015 12:56 pm

dakomish23 wrote:
Sprewell4Three wrote:
BLACKFEET 2010 wrote:Agreed. It's like people talking themselves outta Blake Griffin when it was clear that he was the best player coming out that year.
The kid is 19 with such an advanced feel. In the pros he's gonna improve his deficiencies. I like KAT but I like what I've heard...the alleged jump shot and perimeter abilities. I don't know for certain that his skill set translates because I didn't seen it during his time in Kentucky. I don't know if he's a good as billed on defense because he had the luxury of playing with the best defensive big in college in WCS. He also was a foul magnet in his limited time. I'm not bashing him but if we pick first we should pick Okafor. More so than any other lotto team, we need a guy, a big guy that can be be an offensive focal point. But the truth is if we pick top four we are getting a good player. My guy though is Jah.



Towns really had like 2 months of solid play while Okafor played well all season. I hope we don't get the first pick because it will force Phil to take Towns. Okafor will become an all-star much quicker just because of the sheer fact that he can score points. People are so adamant that he won't improve his defense. Why? He's 19 years old, he just needs to get wit the right coaching staff.

I remember when people said Drummond didn't have a motor, that he was lazy blah blah blah. Look at him now, might be the 2nd best pick in that draft class.


What I don't get is why fans and the media are acting like this is his ceiling? So Towns can have all this potential because of his age and we can use the excuse "it's because KY used him that way" but that doesn't apply to Okafor?

The kid was a freshman. He has just as much upside as anyone in this draft. And based on what I've seen, he's the one true dominant force in the top 4


I don't know what some of you dudes are not getting. There's no bias against Okafor. It's just that the things he lacks are the things you can't teach!

* You can't teach having a motor
* You can't teach shot blocking instincts
* You can't teach having a nose for the ball and the anticipation to rebound out of your area
* You can't teach defensive awareness
* You can't teach lateral quickness
* You can't even always teach FT shooting (Shaq, DeAndre, Big Ben, Rodman, Rondo, etc.)

If this wasn't the case how come a dedicated hard worker like Amar'e never improved defensively? Just because you come into the league at 19 doesn't mean you are destined to improve your weaknesses.
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Re: Countdown to Lottery: Prospect Talk 

Post#15369 » by j4remi » Tue May 19, 2015 1:18 pm

Okafor is gonna be a stud. His defensive struggles are overblown. His FT shooting is the only thing I'm really worried he can't improve (not that he WILL improve everything, but he CAN, and just improved fitness will change his game in many of those aspects).
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Re: The 2015 NBA draft lottery thread - 19/05/15 8:30 p.m. ET 

Post#15370 » by Besart19 » Tue May 19, 2015 1:27 pm

Worst_to_First wrote:
aq_ua wrote:The second worst team has not won the lottery since 1996 when the Sixers picked Iverson.

The second worst team has not picked second since 2006 when we sent the Bulls the rights to LaMarcus Aldridge.


Good. This means that the second worst team is due to win the first pick in the lottery.


That said, this offseason we get both Okafor (or Towns) and Aldridge :)

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Re: Countdown to Lottery: Prospect Talk 

Post#15371 » by El Poochio » Tue May 19, 2015 1:27 pm

2010 wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:
Sprewell4Three wrote:

Towns really had like 2 months of solid play while Okafor played well all season. I hope we don't get the first pick because it will force Phil to take Towns. Okafor will become an all-star much quicker just because of the sheer fact that he can score points. People are so adamant that he won't improve his defense. Why? He's 19 years old, he just needs to get wit the right coaching staff.

I remember when people said Drummond didn't have a motor, that he was lazy blah blah blah. Look at him now, might be the 2nd best pick in that draft class.


What I don't get is why fans and the media are acting like this is his ceiling? So Towns can have all this potential because of his age and we can use the excuse "it's because KY used him that way" but that doesn't apply to Okafor?

The kid was a freshman. He has just as much upside as anyone in this draft. And based on what I've seen, he's the one true dominant force in the top 4


I don't know what some of you dudes are not getting. There's no bias against Okafor. It's just that the things he lacks are the things you can't teach!

* You can't teach having a motor
* You can't teach shot blocking instincts
* You can't teach having a nose for the ball and the anticipation to rebound out of your area
* You can't teach defensive awareness
* You can't teach lateral quickness
* You can't even always teach FT shooting (Shaq, DeAndre, Big Ben, Rodman, Rondo, etc.)

If this wasn't the case how come a dedicated hard worker like Amar'e never improved defensively? Just because you come into the league at 19 doesn't mean you are destined to improve your weaknesses.


How he doesnt have the motor while torching defences every single posession. I dont know the stats but I remember him blocking a lot of shots too. Yes his help defense is not good but there are no perfect prospects. To me Okafor's weaknesses are a bit overblown. At least not enough for me to start bashing the kid come on you Jaaaaaahh

Knicksfan1992 wrote::pray: If we get the 3rd pick don't let this kid get away from us. I salivate at the though of Him and Galloway getting after people defensively.


What are your reasons for prefering him over Russell? Dont know much about Mudiay but isnt his greatest strength playmaking is where Russell is strong too, with a more polished game and better shooting? Is Mudiay the way better athlete? He was getting compared to Kidd though sounds stiffy
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Re: The 2015 NBA draft lottery thread - 19/05/15 8:30 p.m. ET 

Post#15372 » by knickstape21 » Tue May 19, 2015 1:28 pm

ESPN is having a blast today. Just ripping the Knicks every chance they can. Love it.
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Re: The 2015 NBA draft lottery thread - 19/05/15 8:30 p.m. ET 

Post#15373 » by delvec19 » Tue May 19, 2015 1:29 pm

If someone said you can have the 3rd pick right now or just take our normal chances in the lottery which do you pick?
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Re: The 2015 NBA draft lottery thread - 19/05/15 8:30 p.m. ET 

Post#15374 » by BeagleBoss » Tue May 19, 2015 1:32 pm

delvec19 wrote:If someone said you can have the 3rd pick right now or just take our normal chances in the lottery which do you pick?


Take normal chances.
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Re: The 2015 NBA draft lottery thread - 19/05/15 8:30 p.m. ET 

Post#15375 » by mpharris36 » Tue May 19, 2015 1:33 pm

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delvec19 wrote:If someone said you can have the 3rd pick right now or just take our normal chances in the lottery which do you pick?


Take normal chances.


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Re: Countdown to Lottery: Prospect Talk 

Post#15376 » by BeagleBoss » Tue May 19, 2015 1:33 pm

Mudiay is no Jason Kidd.
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Re: The 2015 NBA draft lottery thread - 19/05/15 8:30 p.m. ET 

Post#15377 » by ag3 » Tue May 19, 2015 1:33 pm

delvec19 wrote:If someone said you can have the 3rd pick right now or just take our normal chances in the lottery which do you pick?


Normal chances for sure.
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Re: Countdown to Lottery: Prospect Talk 

Post#15378 » by RaZzMaTaZz » Tue May 19, 2015 1:35 pm

Im pro Towns but people act like Okafor can't improve is crazy. JFYI Okafor is actually a month younger than Towns.

With that said I will be happy if if we select one of five( Towns, Okafor, Russell, Mudiay, Winslow).
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Re: The 2015 NBA draft lottery thread - 19/05/15 8:30 p.m. ET 

Post#15379 » by Capn'O » Tue May 19, 2015 1:36 pm

THE DAY OF RECKONING IS UPON US!!!!!!


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Re: The 2015 NBA draft lottery thread - 19/05/15 8:30 p.m. ET 

Post#15380 » by The_Special_One » Tue May 19, 2015 1:38 pm

delvec19 wrote:If someone said you can have the 3rd pick right now or just take our normal chances in the lottery which do you pick?

Whatever gets you Towns.

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