Hot Topic - Quite Frankly; All Things Frank

[Jscratch1200]

https://www.postingandtoasting.com/platform/amp/2019/2/21/18233728/p-t-film-study-breaking-down-frank-ntilikinas-jumper

Another article/analysis of what's wrong with Frank's shot.

[blueNorange]

Is Frank made of glass? It's getting a little ridiculous.

no he pulled his groin, an injury that's unpredictable.

[HarthorneWingo]

https://www.postingandtoasting.com/platform/amp/2019/2/21/18233728/p-t-film-study-breaking-down-frank-ntilikinas-jumper

Another article/analysis of what's wrong with Frank's shot.

Was just about to post it. It goes into a lot of detail. Here's the bottom line

In other words: proper footwork, arm angles, feet pointing the right way, knees not buckling in together, hips dropping, and so on and so forth are generally habits that will help more if done more, but guarantee nothing in isolation. Such is the fickle nature of a jumpshot.

What going through all of his jumpers showed me is that Frank has a few small but important problems — like poor footwork in shot prep, shooting on the way down, and shooting out rather than up. These problems aren’t as bad as a huge hitch in your shot or shooting from the left side of your head as a righty (to pick two random ones), but they are impactful enough that if you **** one or two of them up on any given shot it lowers your odds a ton. If there’s three or four things you’re not consistent about, chances are you’ll screw up one or two on every shot. It’s a sort of anticlimactic cop-out answer to my investigation, but the answer is that Frank needs more reps with better overall technique, especially for his footwork (and more whole body strength as a two-motion shooter) in order to gain a level of consistency that makes him respectable as a jumpshooter.

It’s happened with guys before — Khris Middleton comes to mind, as a long-armed 32 percent 3-point shooter with Mostly Fine form in three years in college before breaking through as a shooter at 22 in his sophomore NBA season — but it’s also far from certain. With a lot of young players, it really is a strength issue, but with Frank that seems to be only one of several factors. So all we can do now is wait and see, but at least now you all can hopefully have a few things to keep an eye out for as you watch him in the second half of the season!

[Jscratch1200]

https://www.postingandtoasting.com/platform/amp/2019/2/21/18233728/p-t-film-study-breaking-down-frank-ntilikinas-jumper

Another article/analysis of what's wrong with Frank's shot.

Was just about to post it. It goes into a lot of detail. Here's the bottom line

In other words: proper footwork, arm angles, feet pointing the right way, knees not buckling in together, hips dropping, and so on and so forth are generally habits that will help more if done more, but guarantee nothing in isolation. Such is the fickle nature of a jumpshot.

What going through all of his jumpers showed me is that Frank has a few small but important problems — like poor footwork in shot prep, shooting on the way down, and shooting out rather than up. These problems aren’t as bad as a huge hitch in your shot or shooting from the left side of your head as a righty (to pick two random ones), but they are impactful enough that if you **** one or two of them up on any given shot it lowers your odds a ton. If there’s three or four things you’re not consistent about, chances are you’ll screw up one or two on every shot. It’s a sort of anticlimactic cop-out answer to my investigation, but the answer is that Frank needs more reps with better overall technique, especially for his footwork (and more whole body strength as a two-motion shooter) in order to gain a level of consistency that makes him respectable as a jumpshooter.

It’s happened with guys before — Khris Middleton comes to mind, as a long-armed 32 percent 3-point shooter with Mostly Fine form in three years in college before breaking through as a shooter at 22 in his sophomore NBA season — but it’s also far from certain. With a lot of young players, it really is a strength issue, but with Frank that seems to be only one of several factors. So all we can do now is wait and see, but at least now you all can hopefully have a few things to keep an eye out for as you watch him in the second half of the season!

They mention strength ultimately being the major issue. Obviously it's the case for just about every young player, but with Frank; his other issues stems from it.

Makes you wonder how much of it has to do with him still growing. I'm not a professional athlete, but playing football in high school and being in the Marines; I definitely seen a jump in my physical abilities around 22 y/o.

[GONYK]

https://www.postingandtoasting.com/platform/amp/2019/2/21/18233728/p-t-film-study-breaking-down-frank-ntilikinas-jumper

Another article/analysis of what's wrong with Frank's shot.

Was just about to post it. It goes into a lot of detail. Here's the bottom line

In other words: proper footwork, arm angles, feet pointing the right way, knees not buckling in together, hips dropping, and so on and so forth are generally habits that will help more if done more, but guarantee nothing in isolation. Such is the fickle nature of a jumpshot.

What going through all of his jumpers showed me is that Frank has a few small but important problems — like poor footwork in shot prep, shooting on the way down, and shooting out rather than up. These problems aren’t as bad as a huge hitch in your shot or shooting from the left side of your head as a righty (to pick two random ones), but they are impactful enough that if you **** one or two of them up on any given shot it lowers your odds a ton. If there’s three or four things you’re not consistent about, chances are you’ll screw up one or two on every shot. It’s a sort of anticlimactic cop-out answer to my investigation, but the answer is that Frank needs more reps with better overall technique, especially for his footwork (and more whole body strength as a two-motion shooter) in order to gain a level of consistency that makes him respectable as a jumpshooter.

It’s happened with guys before — Khris Middleton comes to mind, as a long-armed 32 percent 3-point shooter with Mostly Fine form in three years in college before breaking through as a shooter at 22 in his sophomore NBA season — but it’s also far from certain. With a lot of young players, it really is a strength issue, but with Frank that seems to be only one of several factors. So all we can do now is wait and see, but at least now you all can hopefully have a few things to keep an eye out for as you watch him in the second half of the season!

They mention strength ultimately being the major issue. Obviously it's the case for just about every young player, but with Frank; his other issues stems from it.

Makes you wonder how much of it has to do with him still growing. I'm not a professional athlete, but playing football in high school and being in the Marines; I definitely seen a jump in my physical abilities around 22 y/o.

Especially when you consider that Frank just started weight lifting last year, whereas people who came up in the American system are at least 4-5 years in by the time they hit the NBA.

[Nazrmohamed]

guys still got issues about Muiday playing over Frank but, the fact is Frank never separated himself from the pack which I expected because the guy was already experienced playing with adults in France. In fact his stat are pretty much the same as those he had in France. Other than a slight improvement in his ball handling, I haven't really seen any improvement in Franks game.

That said, the team plays better when he's on the floor, playing off the ball. On ball, he is too passive.

Well mind you, our best lineup from a win loss perspective has been with Frank starting in a lineup that includes Dotson and Robinson. He also looks really good when playing with Trier.

Essentially Frank looks ok when he plays with another aggresive guard. My thing though is people tend to have shutters on when thinking of how they want a backcourt to look. For example, if I told you that no matter what you're gonna have one guard who is aggresive in attacking the basket and another who takes what the offense gives him(preferably one who can shoot the 3) and plays defense most modern fans will always want the aggressive PG paired with a 3D SG. So naturally Frank needs to play the 2. But ya know there was a time where your PG woukdve been a caretaker who plays defense and can hit the open shot the defense gives him, who then sets up the aggressive SG...or it could be another player like a SF or whoever the star was. (Chalmer/big3, Beverly/Harden, Fisher/Kobe, Billups/Melo etc.)

Problem is as I shared with Buzzerman, even under that dynamic.......you gotta shoot. Maybe even more so than the attackers because defense dont have to prepare for your nonexistent drives. Cuz at the end of the day if you cant shoot we aren't gonna by any happier with you at SG than we are at PG. From a pure get the ball to the right player standpoint Frank has no issues. He actually runs plays very well and from what I've seen at least from a Frank vs DSJ standpoint; when Frank plays he looks like trash and everybody else looks good, and when DSJ plays DSJ looks good and everyone else looks like trash.

Maybe one day I'll have my cake and eat it too.

[Jscratch1200]

Was just about to post it. It goes into a lot of detail. Here's the bottom line

They mention strength ultimately being the major issue. Obviously it's the case for just about every young player, but with Frank; his other issues stems from it.

Makes you wonder how much of it has to do with him still growing. I'm not a professional athlete, but playing football in high school and being in the Marines; I definitely seen a jump in my physical abilities around 22 y/o.

Especially when you consider that Frank just started weight lifting last year, whereas people who came up in the American system are at least 4-5 years in by the time they hit the NBA.

Yeah there is that aspect too. I was more talking about the body maturing after it's done growing. Like he grew an inch or so since getting drafted.

Outside of strength training, his body hasn't put on natural muscle mass yet. I guess what I'm trying to say is he hasn't got his "grown man" body yet.

Obviously there are a lot of aspect he needs to still work on, but he may see a huge benefit from just maturing.

[HarthorneWingo]

They mention strength ultimately being the major issue. Obviously it's the case for just about every young player, but with Frank; his other issues stems from it.

Makes you wonder how much of it has to do with him still growing. I'm not a professional athlete, but playing football in high school and being in the Marines; I definitely seen a jump in my physical abilities around 22 y/o.

Especially when you consider that Frank just started weight lifting last year, whereas people who came up in the American system are at least 4-5 years in by the time they hit the NBA.

Yeah there is that aspect too. I was more talking about the body maturing after it's done growing. Like he grew an inch or so since getting drafted.

Outside of strength training, his body hasn't put on natural muscle mass yet. I guess what I'm trying to say is he hasn't got his "grown man" body yet.

Obviously there are a lot of aspect he needs to still work on, but he may see a huge benefit from just maturing.

And to just keep working on his shooting. Other NBA players who have made drastic improvement in their shooting over the first 3-4 years of their careers.

[Kampuchea]

Watch on YouTube

Frank has a dis track now?

[HEZI]

Watch on YouTube

Frank has a dis track now?

In tears

[Thugger HBC]

It was a matter of time before someone came up with one.

[Fat Kat]

Read on Twitter

[taj2133]

Knicks front office doesn't know when frank is coming back?
Frank Ntilikina remains stuck in injury limbo
By Greg Joyce February 23, 2019 | 5:33pm


Frank Ntilikina had his sore groin reevaluated Friday night, but the timing of his return to action did not become any clearer.

Before the Knicks guard misses his 12th straight game Sunday, when the Spurs visit the Garden, the team said Saturday he continues to improve and will progress in his rehab, including running.

The 20-year-old has been out since suffering the injury Jan. 27 against the Heat. Coach David Fizdale said at the time he didn’t see it causing an extended absence, instead estimating “it could be a week or two.”

Now it is nearing a month, the latest setback for the former No. 8-overall pick, who also missed three games in January with a sprained ankle and three games in December while benched after struggling.

Ntilikina had just stepped back into the starting lineup for two games before going down. Since he has been out, the Knicks acquired Dennis Smith Jr. — who went one spot after Ntilikina in the 2017 draft — in the Kristaps Porzingis trade, making minutes for guards even harder to come by whenever Ntilikina returns.
https://nypost.com/2019/02/23/frank-ntilikina-remains-stuck-in-injury-limbo/

[Phish Tank]

just an FYI: Bron missed 18 games with his groin injury

[taj2133]

just an FYI: Bron missed 18 games with his groin injury

There is 2 problems for frank season ends 46 days on april 10 2019, meaning there is not lot of time left and not enough practice time. The knick should just shut him down there is no point of him coming back this season.

[Phish Tank]

just an FYI: Bron missed 18 games with his groin injury

There is 2 problems for frank season ends 46 days on april 10 2019, meaning there is not lot of time left and not enough practice time. The knick should just shut him down there is no point of him coming back this season.

thanks computer.

And no.

[taj2133]

just an FYI: Bron missed 18 games with his groin injury

There is 2 problems for frank season ends 46 days on april 10 2019, meaning there is not lot of time left and not enough practice time. The knick should just shut him down there is no point of him coming back this season.

thanks computer.

And no.

okay whatever.

[Thugger HBC]

Frank has missed quite a few games for such a young player.

[Phish Tank]

Frank has missed quite a few games for such a young player.

so has Lonzo Ball and Dennis Smith Jr

[Thugger HBC]

Frank has missed quite a few games for such a young player.

so has Lonzo Ball and Dennis Smith Jr

Only concerned about time as a Knick.