GONYK wrote:Cookies4Life wrote:Kyrie is a great player to have in crunch time in the 4th and whenever the shotclock is winding down (just give it to him and let him go into iso mode,) but I'm a bit concerned with his overall style and how he'll orchestrate the offense here.
If Durant wants him here, than obviously you have to go get him but I can't imagine that would be the best guy to pair with KD. Their styles don't seem like they'd mesh well. Irving has only done well playing alongside Lebron who is essentially a modern day version of Magic Johnson so that guy can make anyone look good.
It's weird even talking about these FA's as plausible options this summer. The FO kept saying for 2 years that they were going to build this thing right (for once) and build around young talent accrued from the draft and just "staying the course." Them getting 2 max FA's seems like a shortcut, which I'm ok with, but if they go all out for AD than everything they mentioned the past few seasons was a blatant lie. We'd be dumping all our assets from tanking for the last few years for one guy. That seems counterproductive.
A. Whether or not it is counterproductive depends on the guy they are trading for.
B. What young talent? None of the young guys on the roster are premium talents. The only one with any reasonable potential probability to get there is Mitch, and even his most ideal fantasy ceiling is Anthony Davis.
While I agree, there are a few things to consider. Just consider. This isn't a hard sell on these ideas.
RJ is one of the costs of AD. So is Knox. Maybe DSJr as well. I guess RJ has the highest upside. And while DSJr has been in the league a minute, he's not exactly a finished product, as Frank isn't and neither is Knox, particularly. Obviously same for Mitch. I'm realistic - other than maybe RJ, the rest weren't touted as the next big thing coming into the draft, but at least DSJr and Knox weren't thought of as bums or puzzling for their draft slot. Frank has always been divisive, even among scouts and FO's. Mitch is an oddity, as he had buzz in HS after the McDonalds AA game, but the odd college situation caused him to drop.
Anyway, editorializing about the young guys aside, 19 year olds being drafted means as fans, and for FO's, where it really counts, is there is some real projection and scouting that has to go on, in terms of what will these guys be in a couple of years, factored in what does a team want to then to be on the hook to have to resign them entering their 4th and 5th year, when these players, a majority of the time, are rounding into form?
So, I get the Knicks aren't trading the next Luka or LeBron here, but all these players represent former top 10 picks, most of whom (if not all, depends) retain some upside, who are cost controlled and cheap.
It's similar to what I said before. I personally can't decide. Trade them all for AD and have no assets or bench left? (assume some Mavs and Knick picks to out too) Half step it and sign two FA's and keep the youth? Roll it over another year or two, take bad contracts and keep all the youth, minus some players flipped for moar picks? Who knows what is best. Especially the "AD or no AD" scenario.
Final point - I mean, if the Knicks could get AD but retain Mitch, Trier and thier own picks moving forward? Yeah, I'd do that for AD.
But if it's going to be some "Herschel Walker Special"? Nah.
