Offseason Trades and Transaction Ideas Thread

[WargamesX]

After the draft I am just going to wait and see what they do.

[god shammgod]

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Long after the NBA Draft concluded Thursday, there were exchanges between the Pacers, Golden State Warriors and New York Knicks for the 6-6 forward.

Did it rise to the level of making offers to pry him away?

Yes, and that's according to two league sources who spoke to IndyStar Sports with direct knowledge of the situation early Friday:

>> New York had been furiously attempting to move up from Nos. 19 and 21 to position themselves for Duarte. IndyStar reported this offer earlier in the week from the Knicks that already had been rejected. The Knicks also tried to get into the top 10 to be sure they got him but found no takers there, either.

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[robillionaire]

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Long after the NBA Draft concluded Thursday, there were exchanges between the Pacers, Golden State Warriors and New York Knicks for the 6-6 forward.

Did it rise to the level of making offers to pry him away?

Yes, and that's according to two league sources who spoke to IndyStar Sports with direct knowledge of the situation early Friday:

>> New York had been furiously attempting to move up from Nos. 19 and 21 to position themselves for Duarte. IndyStar reported this offer earlier in the week from the Knicks that already had been rejected. The Knicks also tried to get into the top 10 to be sure they got him but found no takers there, either.

old news but...

pacers media just trying to gas up their pick nothing to see here

[HerSports85]

There’s no one worth signing to long term money. And I don’t want to make any big trades with so many free agents next season.

Just keep developing the kids and see if Randle can have a repeat season before trying to build around him.

I only want to make minor moves. Im ok with Oubre and Hart type moves.

[snadler]

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Looks like Lowry is going to Miami..hurts because now puts another team in the east above the knicks

[aggo]

The Knicks FO has been trending more frugal in FA over the past few years with the Rose Co. group last off season being downright stingy so I don't expect them to be the old Knicks model of bidding against themselves and overpaying for mediocrity.

They have some goodwill with agents for the little things they have been doing in getting players extra money. If guys like Noel, Bullock and Burks get bigger offers now because of their contributions to the Knicks success it also gives the Knicks franchise a rep for potentially helping player's careers.

So the Knicks FO will express interest with alot of players and shoot their modest offers with the added incentive of being a part of the Knicks changing culture and success in one of the most visible markets in the league. This may entice some player to take the lesser offer for the other benefits.

Or if those players don't get the longer big offers they want there will be the option of the Knicks on a shorter contract to leverage more longer term money in a year or two. This also plays into the plan for the Knicks to keep cap flexibility while adding talent at below market value.

So I suspect the Knicks will not overpay in a bidding war for players that aren't stars if it means that the financial situation the Knicks FOs have worked hard to create gets damaged. They may not get their top targets but they will get someone that fits the system and culture on a great deal.

If they do sign someone to a longer deal it could still will be one that has great value for the talent level and will also be something that can be moved in a trade for potentially a 'star' in addition to the pick cache they have built up down the road.

This is just my speculation and I hope this is their strategy because I don't want to see them waste this opportunity on overpaying for less than star players so saddle themselves with mediocrity and have the Knicks become a treadmill 2nd round exit team for years.

the difference is that the improvement in RJ and Randle and the subsequent contracts they will receive necessitate spending money now.


the FO can not want anymore because RJ's RFA max is coming and his salary will occupy a significant portion of the cap. Randle's new contract will also be a significant pay raise.


the only way to ensure that the cap is managed correctly is to spend it all before we give Randle and RJ extensions.

So you want the Knicks to 'spend it all' on overpaying mediocre talent to become a treadmill team because of this time line you believe they are bound to?

we've discussed this before many many times on the board

whatever you think of any players is completely immaterial. we're spending all of the capspace by RJ's max, and that is guaranteed.

[aggo]

the only other RFA poison pill contract we can deliver is talen horton tucker from LAL

[Bob Ross]

Just because Miami is making moves to make a deal possible doesn't mean it's gonna happen.

But I admit, they're one of the teams the seem to get their man often

[aggo]

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Looks like Lowry is going to Miami..hurts because now puts another team in the east above the knicks

DENNIS SCHROEDER 4/95

NYK!

believe it!

[snadler]

There’s no one worth signing to long term money. And I don’t want to make any big trades with so many free agents next season.

Just keep developing the kids and see if Randle can have a repeat season before trying to build around him.

I only want to make minor moves. Im ok with Oubre and Hart type moves.

Here’s the problem, not only do the knicks need players to fill out the roster, but they have to spend again just to reach the salary floor once again

[Bob Ross]

Someone had reported that the Knicks were meeting with someone at the very start of FA. Lowry or Ball I thought. Does anyone remember?

It doesn't guarantee anything, but I'd imagine they have a good idea who they have a shot with and who already has their minds made up

[knickstape21]

Would love if we explored trade options with Boston for Marcus Smart

[spree8]

I’m hoping we punt on FA too this year and just sign bloated 1 year deals only. Def prefer to hold out for next summer.

[F N 11]

Miami always 1 step ahead as usual

[F N 11]

Someone had reported that the Knicks were meeting with someone at the very start of FA. Lowry or Ball I thought. Does anyone remember?

It doesn't guarantee anything, but I'd imagine they have a good idea who they have a shot with and who already has their minds made up

You really don’t remember? That would be big news…

[Knick4Real]

If Kawhi wants to come, do you take him knowing he will be out one full year and get paid like 40 million plus?

Yes

As a talent he is great but this will be his second major injury. I wouldn’t be as excited, more so due to him being a really fickle person. He wanted to build the LA clippers to dethrone the lakers hold on La. Two disappointing playoff runs hasn’t done that. I feel his injury as well as the Clippers Dr’s are scapegoats for his ego. The clippers could of easily been eliminated if not for some heroic play. You can’t always rely on that for a championship run. He ran out on two great organizations to join the clippers. The clippers aren’t a bad organization either. Dude is disloyal and his uncle is like an evil side kick corrupting his ear.

Good points!

Also, I don't get the impression Kawhi cares about winning any longer. He seems more comfortable living life HIS way and getting all the perks off the reputation of being Kawhi than having a killer instinct to win.

[WargamesX]

Lowry was never a good fit for NY nor was their any indication the Knicks wanted him. Also for everyone talking like the season is over because the Heat are better than the Knicks are forgetting the Knicks goals. A deeper playoff run. We don’t have to be contenders on paper just yet. Let the front office build

[WargamesX]

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Looks like Lowry is going to Miami..hurts because now puts another team in the east above the knicks

Nunn should be gettable

[knickstape4ever]

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I could see the FO taking a chance on Monk. he's who I wanted in 2017 instead of Frank. always thought he'd light up the Garden

[Rockazoids]

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Looks like Lowry is going to Miami..hurts because now puts another team in the east above the knicks

DENNIS SCHROEDER 4/95

NYK!

believe it!

I would offer a 1+1 contract to Devonte' Graham before Schroeder.