Official Draft Thread - Draft Starts @8 EST - Meadowlands Arena , NJ

[8516knicks]

Wasn't Bryce James the one that hit a growth spurt and was supposedly better than Bronny? I haven't heard anything about him since that story a few years ago.

He was adopted by Lavar Ball.

[SelbyCobra]

The mental gymnastics being done by this trash ass panel is disgusting

I'm sorry there is no other kid averaging 4ppg on 36%FG who would be getting their meat washed like this

Bob Myers knows damn well he wouldn't have e drafted a kid with this profile.

Woj made the point on the broadcast - in a league where nepotism is part of the lifeblood of the ranks of ownership, FOs, and coaching, the idea that it is somehow offensive when a player gives his own son a boost is really shortsighted to me. It's buying into the billionaire's side of things - do a thing, but then vilify the class below you when they do it...so you can keep doing it yourself.

Read on Twitter

Well, two things. I think Woj is being entirely disingenuous because:

1) LeBron is a billionaire. This is the billionaire's side of things.

2) This isn't a case of someone getting a front office job or coaching position based off of who they know. There is a clear difference between that and someone being drafted into a professional league.

He knows this.

I disagree completely with #2. There's very little difference to me. Someone gets a FO job and influences decisions on roster construction, salary negotiations, etc., that's impacting the on-court direction of the club. Someone gets a coaching job and influences the conditioning, the lockeroom, the play style, the preparedness, etc., that's impacting the on-court direction of the club.

And even if they don't have an impact, they're taking that opportunity away from someone who earned it, needs it, and/or will do more with it.

It's not as public and direct, but it's in the same vein to me.

EDIT: I mean, how much isht did Bryan Colangelo get to f*ck up because of his dad?

[thebuzzardman]

He’s a Knick. They said he was playing like best In nation before he got hurt.

https://youtu.be/wtPdgiEav2c?si=ecXbn_C9gnhfb8BF

Knicks replaced Grimes in a NY minute

[MrDollarBills]

Look, all sh*t talk aside, I hope Bronny does well and works himself into a good pro. He's just a kid after all.

But it's crazy to me how the Lakers literally hired LeBron's podcast partner as their coach and then drafts his son who wasn't even a better collegiate athlete than _______ < name whoever.

I wouldn't be yielding all that to LeBron at this age where the best he can do is qualify for the play in.

[8516knicks]

Read good thins about McCuellar pre-draft. Diadet fronts posters for our female fans and Kolek is our very own T. J. McConnell.

[FrozenEnvelope]

lebron deserves to have his son drafted, I see no problem with it

If you were a prospect and had your spot stolen and went undrafted, you'd have a problem with it. If you were a prospect and got drafted, you'd still have a problem with it. You'd only not have a problem with it if you were a LeBum fan.

[WargamesX]

Look, all sh*t talk aside, I hope Bronny does well and works himself into a good pro. He's just a kid after all.

But it's crazy to me how the Lakers literally hired LeBron's podcast partner as their coach and then drafts his son who wasn't even a better collegiate athlete than _______ < name whoever.

I wouldn't be yielding all that to LeBron at this age where the best he can do is qualify for the play in.

They are sort of stuck on suck until for 2028 due to all the picks they paid to get AD. So they need Lebron to go out there and sell tickets until they can tank and be gifted a top pick to start their rebuild.

[8516knicks]

Look, all sh*t talk aside, I hope Bronny does well and works himself into a good pro. He's just a kid after all.

But it's crazy to me how the Lakers literally hired LeBron's podcast partner as their coach and then drafts his son who wasn't even a better collegiate athlete than _______ < name whoever.

I wouldn't be yielding all that to LeBron at this age where the best he can do is qualify for the play in.

Without LeBron, the Lakers are the present day Chicago Bulls. He's still a STAR.

[SelbyCobra]

Look, all sh*t talk aside, I hope Bronny does well and works himself into a good pro. He's just a kid after all.

But it's crazy to me how the Lakers literally hired LeBron's podcast partner as their coach and then drafts his son who wasn't even a better collegiate athlete than _______ < name whoever.

I wouldn't be yielding all that to LeBron at this age where the best he can do is qualify for the play in.

This I agree with, but like Rob said earlier, that's the price you pay for doing business with him and accepting that Championship.

And even if they're not winning, I'm positive LeBron's presence alone is generating millions upon millions of dollars for the Lakers owners. They're not THAT upset about this situation. This whole storyline is a goldmine, and even if Bronny fails straight away, LeBron is still box office in a way that attracts and grows equity for the Lakers brand.

[WargamesX]

Look, all sh*t talk aside, I hope Bronny does well and works himself into a good pro. He's just a kid after all.

But it's crazy to me how the Lakers literally hired LeBron's podcast partner as their coach and then drafts his son who wasn't even a better collegiate athlete than _______ < name whoever.

I wouldn't be yielding all that to LeBron at this age where the best he can do is qualify for the play in.

This I agree with, but like Rob said earlier, that's the price you pay for doing business with him and accepting that Championship.

And even if they're not winning, I'm positive LeBron's presence alone is generating millions upon millions of dollars for the Lakers owners. They're not THAT upset about this situation. This whole storyline is a goldmine, and even if Bronny fails straight away, LeBron is still box office in a way that attracts and grows equity for the Lakers brand.

Also I will say this a lot of the Love Lebron gets from the franchise should have went to Kobe. Lebron really helped them get over mourning Kobe being the end all of their existence as a franchise. He became the franchises favored adopted son. I don’t think either he or klutch runs that team the way they have now if Kobe was still around being a recently retired Lakers legend.

[MrDollarBills]

Woj made the point on the broadcast - in a league where nepotism is part of the lifeblood of the ranks of ownership, FOs, and coaching, the idea that it is somehow offensive when a player gives his own son a boost is really shortsighted to me. It's buying into the billionaire's side of things - do a thing, but then vilify the class below you when they do it...so you can keep doing it yourself.

Read on Twitter

Well, two things. I think Woj is being entirely disingenuous because:

1) LeBron is a billionaire. This is the billionaire's side of things.

2) This isn't a case of someone getting a front office job or coaching position based off of who they know. There is a clear difference between that and someone being drafted into a professional league.

He knows this.

I disagree completely with #2. There's very little difference to me. Someone gets a FO job and influences decisions on roster construction, salary negotiations, etc., that's impacting the on-court direction of the club. Someone gets a coaching job and influences the conditioning, the lockeroom, the play style, the preparedness, etc., that's impacting the on-court direction of the club.

And even if they don't have an impact, they're taking that opportunity away from someone who earned it, needs it, and/or will do more with it.

It's not as public and direct, but it's in the same vein to me.

EDIT: I mean, how much isht did Bryan Colangelo get to f*ck up because of his dad?

Ok, so i guess we can agree that we have a case of a billionaire exerting pressure to get his relative hired for a job he isn't remotely qualified for. This is why I said that Woj is being disingenuous.

I don't like it per say, but I'm not offended. I want Bronny to do well, i always felt kinda bad for him having to follow in his Dad's footsteps and the whole medical problems with his heart so i hope he can work himself up to become an NBA player. I'm just used to seeing guys earning the right to play in the professional leagues and not being gifted to them because of their dad.

Jalen Brunson would not be here right now if he had Bronny's resume coming into the draft.

[MrDollarBills]

Look, all sh*t talk aside, I hope Bronny does well and works himself into a good pro. He's just a kid after all.

But it's crazy to me how the Lakers literally hired LeBron's podcast partner as their coach and then drafts his son who wasn't even a better collegiate athlete than _______ < name whoever.

I wouldn't be yielding all that to LeBron at this age where the best he can do is qualify for the play in.

Without LeBron, the Lakers are the present day Chicago Bulls. He's still a STAR.

He absolutely is.

They are gonna lose next season too, but those seats will still be filled. I wish Jeannie Buss would notice me

[MrDollarBills]

Look, all sh*t talk aside, I hope Bronny does well and works himself into a good pro. He's just a kid after all.

But it's crazy to me how the Lakers literally hired LeBron's podcast partner as their coach and then drafts his son who wasn't even a better collegiate athlete than _______ < name whoever.

I wouldn't be yielding all that to LeBron at this age where the best he can do is qualify for the play in.

This I agree with, but like Rob said earlier, that's the price you pay for doing business with him and accepting that Championship.

And even if they're not winning, I'm positive LeBron's presence alone is generating millions upon millions of dollars for the Lakers owners. They're not THAT upset about this situation. This whole storyline is a goldmine, and even if Bronny fails straight away, LeBron is still box office in a way that attracts and grows equity for the Lakers brand.

Lmao yes for sure.

That opening night for the Lakers will be crazy.

[MrDollarBills]

lebron deserves to have his son drafted, I see no problem with it

If you were a prospect and had your spot stolen and went undrafted, you'd have a problem with it. If you were a prospect and got drafted, you'd still have a problem with it. You'd only not have a problem with it if you were a LeBum fan.

This is another consequence. Someone who actually deserves a look in training camp now gets knocked into the UDFA pool. That kinda sucks.

[SelbyCobra]

Well, two things. I think Woj is being entirely disingenuous because:

1) LeBron is a billionaire. This is the billionaire's side of things.

2) This isn't a case of someone getting a front office job or coaching position based off of who they know. There is a clear difference between that and someone being drafted into a professional league.

He knows this.

I disagree completely with #2. There's very little difference to me. Someone gets a FO job and influences decisions on roster construction, salary negotiations, etc., that's impacting the on-court direction of the club. Someone gets a coaching job and influences the conditioning, the lockeroom, the play style, the preparedness, etc., that's impacting the on-court direction of the club.

And even if they don't have an impact, they're taking that opportunity away from someone who earned it, needs it, and/or will do more with it.

It's not as public and direct, but it's in the same vein to me.

EDIT: I mean, how much isht did Bryan Colangelo get to f*ck up because of his dad?

Ok, so i guess we can agree that we have a case of a billionaire exerting pressure to get his relative hired for a job he isn't remotely qualified for. This is why I said that Woj is being disingenuous.

I don't like it per say, but I'm not offended. I want Bronny to do well, i always felt kinda bad for him having to follow in his Dad's footsteps and the whole medical problems with his heart so i hope he can work himself up to become an NBA player. I'm just used to seeing guys earning the right to play in the professional leagues and not being gifted to them because of their dad.

Jalen Brunson would not be here right now if he had Bronny's resume coming into the draft.

I think a lot of people either didn't hear what Woj was saying, or are misinterpreting it. Woj's point, as I understood it, was not to defend the nepotism that has aided Bronny to this moment, it was to tell people he didn't want to suddenly hear them loudly being the anti-nepotism police, when the entire class structure of the league above the players has had it running all throughout the foundation and walls for decades.

I didn't hear Woj's point as Bronny is absolutely qualified, just that it's disingenuous to suddenly be screaming nepotism when a player does it, when it's been an established archetype of NBA ownership/management/coaching.

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

lebron deserves to have his son drafted, I see no problem with it

Sure. But they're going to be paying him and giving him minutes and a roster spot and training hours. That's going to actively harm the Lakers. Which I'll allow.

If you pay a good university enough money and not in a stupid, nouveau riche way, your children can attend.

It's a great system.

Obviously some of those not privileged get excluded. But so what. Their parents didn't deserve it.

[Capn'O]

I disagree completely with #2. There's very little difference to me. Someone gets a FO job and influences decisions on roster construction, salary negotiations, etc., that's impacting the on-court direction of the club. Someone gets a coaching job and influences the conditioning, the lockeroom, the play style, the preparedness, etc., that's impacting the on-court direction of the club.

And even if they don't have an impact, they're taking that opportunity away from someone who earned it, needs it, and/or will do more with it.

It's not as public and direct, but it's in the same vein to me.

EDIT: I mean, how much isht did Bryan Colangelo get to f*ck up because of his dad?

Ok, so i guess we can agree that we have a case of a billionaire exerting pressure to get his relative hired for a job he isn't remotely qualified for. This is why I said that Woj is being disingenuous.

I don't like it per say, but I'm not offended. I want Bronny to do well, i always felt kinda bad for him having to follow in his Dad's footsteps and the whole medical problems with his heart so i hope he can work himself up to become an NBA player. I'm just used to seeing guys earning the right to play in the professional leagues and not being gifted to them because of their dad.

Jalen Brunson would not be here right now if he had Bronny's resume coming into the draft.

I think a lot of people either didn't hear what Woj was saying, or are misinterpreting it. Woj's point, as I understood it, was not to defend the nepotism that has aided Bronny to this moment, it was to tell people he didn't want to suddenly hear them loudly being the anti-nepotism police, when the entire class structure of the league above the players has had it running all throughout the foundation and walls for decades.

I didn't hear Woj's point as Bronny is absolutely qualified, just that it's disingenuous to suddenly be screaming nepotism when a player does it, when it's been an established archetype of NBA ownership/management/coaching.

Cough Dolan cough

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

Look, all sh*t talk aside, I hope Bronny does well and works himself into a good pro. He's just a kid after all.

But it's crazy to me how the Lakers literally hired LeBron's podcast partner as their coach and then drafts his son who wasn't even a better collegiate athlete than _______ < name whoever.

I wouldn't be yielding all that to LeBron at this age where the best he can do is qualify for the play in.

They are sort of stuck on suck until for 2028 due to all the picks they paid to get AD. So they need Lebron to go out there and sell tickets until they can tank and be gifted a top pick to start their rebuild.

The Lakers don't need Lebron to sell tickets. Lebron needs the Lakers.

A less sycophantic owner would go the Lakers 96-97 route but with added superstar AD. But no. Kobe's stupid 2 season limping tour of the country. Now Lebron.

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

Look, all sh*t talk aside, I hope Bronny does well and works himself into a good pro. He's just a kid after all.

But it's crazy to me how the Lakers literally hired LeBron's podcast partner as their coach and then drafts his son who wasn't even a better collegiate athlete than _______ < name whoever.

I wouldn't be yielding all that to LeBron at this age where the best he can do is qualify for the play in.

Without LeBron, the Lakers are the present day Chicago Bulls. He's still a STAR.

The Bulls franchise is literally Jordan and **** all else. The Lakers are one of the two stars in the sky. Knicks, 76ers, whoever, might not like that, but it's the facts. And, yes, NYC is huge and rich and Dolan will always make a steady income from the Knicks. But they are also rans in the history of the league.

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

Ok, so i guess we can agree that we have a case of a billionaire exerting pressure to get his relative hired for a job he isn't remotely qualified for. This is why I said that Woj is being disingenuous.

I don't like it per say, but I'm not offended. I want Bronny to do well, i always felt kinda bad for him having to follow in his Dad's footsteps and the whole medical problems with his heart so i hope he can work himself up to become an NBA player. I'm just used to seeing guys earning the right to play in the professional leagues and not being gifted to them because of their dad.

Jalen Brunson would not be here right now if he had Bronny's resume coming into the draft.

I think a lot of people either didn't hear what Woj was saying, or are misinterpreting it. Woj's point, as I understood it, was not to defend the nepotism that has aided Bronny to this moment, it was to tell people he didn't want to suddenly hear them loudly being the anti-nepotism police, when the entire class structure of the league above the players has had it running all throughout the foundation and walls for decades.

I didn't hear Woj's point as Bronny is absolutely qualified, just that it's disingenuous to suddenly be screaming nepotism when a player does it, when it's been an established archetype of NBA ownership/management/coaching.

Cough Dolan cough

ownership/management/coaching are three completely different things.