OT: The WWE Thread - Part 2

[xNewYorkMadex]

Ive enjoyed Raw the last 2 weeks and TLC last night.

As for Raw tonight, im surprised the Philly crowed didnt boo Roman out of the building. They were the crowd to first turn against Roman at the Royal Rumble earlier in the year. I did hear some boos, but I think it was about 85-90% cheers. Maybe it had something to do with Roman at TLC. I do like Roman, but I do admit for most of the year the guy just comes off lame and corny. At TLC and tonight he was more of a badass. They just cant have him smile too much and say corny one liners on the mic. Keep him as this bad ass dude who doesnt say much.

Always great to see the wwe title change hands on a Raw. Its rare when that happens. Glad to see them change it up. Although I will say, it was extremely lame for them to announce Roman would appear on Sportscenter tomorrow right before the match started. I thought there was a chance they would go with the fake firing storyline ala every other time they fake fired Stone Cold and whoever else. As soon as they announced he would appear on SC, it was obvious he would win the belt. Thats my only nitpick for tonights Raw.

I dont know about everyone else, but as a casual fan ive been happy with what ive seen the last couple weeks. Seems like they are making more of an effort. Even the womens matches/storylines have been good. Paige looks real cute lately. I dont know what the big difference is with her, but she has this new sense of confidence and appeal. Too bad she wasnt on Raw tonight.

Vince is indeed a God. That man has impeccable mic abilities. Not sure if we will see more of him, but his rare appearance tonight was fantastic.

[Jeffrey]

Ive enjoyed Raw the last 2 weeks and TLC last night.

As for Raw tonight, im surprised the Philly crowed didnt boo Roman out of the building. They were the crowd to first turn against Roman at the Royal Rumble earlier in the year. I did hear some boos, but I think it was about 85-90% cheers. Maybe it had something to do with Roman at TLC. I do like Roman, but I do admit for most of the year the guy just comes off lame and corny. At TLC and tonight he was more of a badass. They just cant have him smile too much and say corny one liners on the mic. Keep him as this bad ass dude who doesnt say much.

Always great to see the wwe title change hands on a Raw. Its rare when that happens. Glad to see them change it up. Although I will say, it was extremely lame for them to announce Roman would appear on Sportscenter tomorrow right before the match started. I thought there was a chance they would go with the fake firing storyline ala every other time they fake fired Stone Cold and whoever else. As soon as they announced he would appear on SC, it was obvious he would win the belt. Thats my only nitpick for tonights Raw.

I dont know about everyone else, but as a casual fan ive been happy with what ive seen the last couple weeks. Seems like they are making more of an effort. Even the womens matches/storylines have been good. Paige looks real cute lately. I dont know what the big difference is with her, but she has this new sense of confidence and appeal. Too bad she wasnt on Raw tonight.

Vince is indeed a God. That man has impeccable mic abilities. Not sure if we will see more of him, but his rare appearance tonight was fantastic.

And that's the problem with Raw the last 5-10 years. There is only one major storyline on raw for 3 hours! This is why a lot of people are angry. It's not Roman Reigns at all, its WWE. When John Cena became a WWE title, fans/smarks were okay with it. What fans didn't know that Cena was going to have a 10 year run. That is what fans are afraid of with Roman Reigns, a 10 year run with Reigns as a FACE! His mic skills aren't even up to par with John Cena and it just looks brutal.

You're erasing the other 49 weeks that WWE fans had to go through just to get something decent. Yes, Roman won and that was because they had no where to go to. Listen to Cole and JBL, they were celebrating like a 10 year run is going to happen with Roman. God, I hope not.

[HarthorneWingo]

I can't even watch this shyt anymore. So boring.

[DASMACKDOWN]

Here is my WWE year in review.

Honestly this maybe one of the worst years in WWE for me.

Their lack of building other brands is really hurting them big time because of injuries.

Its like all their transgressions have caught up to them all at once. Daniel Bryan being out. Seth Rollins being out. Orton out. Using Cena too much to make up for it, Has really been a sort of been a death blow to the franchise.

The only sort of shining achievements this year was by far The New Day. Which all credit as we found out goes to Kofi,Big E and Xavier. They brought back interest in tag teams and stables this year and are literally the only must watch tv on wwe right now. I also give them credit for NXT and some of the guys they brought over (Kevin Owens). Thats about the only things they did well this year.

The Diva revolution was a huge flop in my opinion. But I use that lightly since flop would imply that people cared.
The misuse of the Wyatts is really bad in my opinion. You cant call out everyone, only to lose, and then move on to the next guy to lose to. They are messing that one up bigtime. Basically the WWE's biggest stable with the most appealing gimmick, are the WWEs biggest jobbers.

I dont know, maybe I am overreacting to everything. Maybe they just had bad luck with injuries and everyone will be back next year. But unless they get new blood behind the scenes, I dont expect many changes.

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Side note:
My guess its since Reigns is the champ now to end the year, Im picturing some other Heel is going to win Rumble and Brock Lesnar will emerge in a 3 way for the title. Because we all know a Heel vs Reigns isnt going to be enough to sell Wrestlemania.

[DowNY]

#BrayForRumbleWin

[Jeffrey]

2015 was pretty bad for the Main Roster. Top stars hurt or needs rest. Needed to trot out old farts to bring in ratings (Undertaker and Sting) which means you are in desperate mode if you do that. 5 out of 13 PPVs the main event was held with wrestlers that has a part-time contract.

It was a great year for NXT. This is what wrestling fans wanted. Most of the storylines were simple and effective. NXT had jobbers and made every fight feel important if it warrants it. Some may not like the crowd but they do play and important role in all of this and they were great. It's just night and day with both brands.

[kingquan316]

It was reported last night via F4WOnline that AJ Styles, Doc Gallows, Karl Anderson, and Shinsuke Nakamura informed NJPW officials at the Wrestle Kingdom 10 event that they’ve been approached by WWE and are leaving the promotion. While the four men have not signed WWE contracts, they are expected to do so once their commitments to other promotions are completed.

Dave Meltzer reported on today's installment of Wrestling Observer Radio that Styles and Nakamura will most likely not head to NXT, and will be brought to the main roster right away. There is the possibility that they work a couple NXT matches but nothing long-term.

Bullet Club going to WWE!? God damn, I'm giddy now. Even though I know the group probably won't happen in WWE, seeing the members go up against other WWE guys is gonna be awesome. Also Nakamura could be the best in ring worker in the world right now. Now that the Rumble is coming soon (for the wwe title now), I'll be watching hoping for at least one of them to enter it.

Sad for NJPW though, Bullet Club won't be the same without Styles and Anderson, I like Omega, but the group will never reached the peak that it did with those two. I love Bullet Club, so I'll still root for the group, but I'm sad that my favorite faction currently is gonna be losing it's leaders. Nakamura is a huge lost to them. They should have given him the world title a long time ago, maybe he would have stayed. I hope they recover from this though, they are my second favorite wrestling company after WWE (they put out better product than WWE the past 2-3 years) and want them to succeed.

[Meat]

It was reported last night via F4WOnline that AJ Styles, Doc Gallows, Karl Anderson, and Shinsuke Nakamura informed NJPW officials at the Wrestle Kingdom 10 event that they’ve been approached by WWE and are leaving the promotion. While the four men have not signed WWE contracts, they are expected to do so once their commitments to other promotions are completed.

Dave Meltzer reported on today's installment of Wrestling Observer Radio that Styles and Nakamura will most likely not head to NXT, and will be brought to the main roster right away. There is the possibility that they work a couple NXT matches but nothing long-term.

Bullet Club going to WWE!? God damn, I'm giddy now. Even though I know the group probably won't happen in WWE, seeing the members go up against other WWE guys is gonna be awesome. Also Nakamura could be the best in ring worker in the world right now. Now that the Rumble is coming soon (for the wwe title now), I'll be watching hoping for at least one of them to enter it.

Sad for NJPW though, Bullet Club won't be the same without Styles and Anderson, I like Omega, but the group will never reached the peak that it did with those two. I love Bullet Club, so I'll still root for the group, but I'm sad that my favorite faction currently is gonna be losing it's leaders. Nakamura is a huge lost to them. They should have given him the world title a long time ago, maybe he would have stayed. I hope they recover from this though, they are my second favorite wrestling company after WWE (they put out better product than WWE the past 2-3 years) and want them to succeed.

they're going to nxt, devitt's already **** with balor club ****. it's easy to put 1 and 1 together,

[wolfv]

WWE is all about Roman Reigns. So much so that they had to resurrect Vince McMahon in an attempt to get him over. Vince is too old to be on tv playing the McMahon character. Similar to sports greats playing too long past their prime, it's sad. It was embarrassing actually. Steph and Hunter should stay behind the scenes because my god are they boring. If they really must have an "evil boss" character get someone else. What's Eric Bischoff up to? He's much better suited for that type of role. Or even JBL. Create a storyline where he becomes GM. If WWE is just going to be Roman vs The Authority than at least one of them needs to be entertaining. Roman isn't going anywhere so bring in a Bischoff/JBL/ie. someone more fun to watch than Steph/HHH/Vince

[DowNY]

It was reported last night via F4WOnline that AJ Styles, Doc Gallows, Karl Anderson, and Shinsuke Nakamura informed NJPW officials at the Wrestle Kingdom 10 event that they’ve been approached by WWE and are leaving the promotion. While the four men have not signed WWE contracts, they are expected to do so once their commitments to other promotions are completed.

Dave Meltzer reported on today's installment of Wrestling Observer Radio that Styles and Nakamura will most likely not head to NXT, and will be brought to the main roster right away. There is the possibility that they work a couple NXT matches but nothing long-term.

Bullet Club going to WWE!? God damn, I'm giddy now. Even though I know the group probably won't happen in WWE, seeing the members go up against other WWE guys is gonna be awesome. Also Nakamura could be the best in ring worker in the world right now. Now that the Rumble is coming soon (for the wwe title now), I'll be watching hoping for at least one of them to enter it.

Sad for NJPW though, Bullet Club won't be the same without Styles and Anderson, I like Omega, but the group will never reached the peak that it did with those two. I love Bullet Club, so I'll still root for the group, but I'm sad that my favorite faction currently is gonna be losing it's leaders. Nakamura is a huge lost to them. They should have given him the world title a long time ago, maybe he would have stayed. I hope they recover from this though, they are my second favorite wrestling company after WWE (they put out better product than WWE the past 2-3 years) and want them to succeed.

I think they go to the main roster. Makes no sense for NXT. Just let Finn become heel until Wrestlemania then bring him up day after Mania. When he debuts, the bullet club debuts. Take over.

Have them target Roman or something & align with the Authority. (Finn already loves doing the "suck it" sign like HHH & what not).
Authority & Bullet Club run everything until Seth comes back & temporarily form the Shield again.
At that point, there's a ton of factions:
Shield
League of Nations
Bullet Club
The Wyatts
New Day
Cosmic Wasteland
Social Outcasts

That lines up the resurrection of a dope PPV to honor Dusty Rhodes... the War Games, late next year.

[DowNY]

Anyone else thinks Kurt Angle should come back only to manage Jason Jordan & Gable when they're on the main roster?

[JXL]

When is Samoa Joe making the jump? He would make the WWE semi-relevant just by his dominance.

[Butch718]

Having the title be up for grabs at the rumble doesn't interest me because Roman Reigns will be screwed out of the title only to gain it back and win it for the 3rd time in less than 6 months come Wrestlemania. It's too **** predictable. This whole angle with Vince sucks. It's nothing more than a poor man's poor man version of Stone Cold/Vince. They're too **** afraid of turning Roman heel. It's short sighted because if they handled it right he could have been the face they envisioned once he made the transition back.


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[Im Coming Home]

Having the title be up for grabs at the rumble doesn't interest me because Roman Reigns will be screwed out of the title only to gain it back and win it for the 3rd time in less than 6 months come Wrestlemania. It's too **** predictable. This whole angle with Vince sucks. It's nothing more than a poor man's poor man version of Stone Cold/Vince. They're too **** afraid of turning Roman heel. It's short sighted because if they handled it right he could have been the face they envisioned once he made the transition back.


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Yup... Next Monday Brock will declare for Royal Rumble, then he'll win it at the Royal Rumble to setup Roman vs Brock 2 for the title. Roman will beat Brock and Brock's god-like tier/strength due to beating Taker at WM, will be wasted on Roman. It is so obvious. Then what do you do after that WWE? Have Roman beat everyone on the roster cause he's kayfabe gonna be miles ahead everyone else on the roster....

Zzzzzzzzzzz

They're literally giving up Cena 2.0 like everyone feared. Difference is, Cena could actually talk on he mic and work a crowd at the very least.

[DowNY]

Having the title be up for grabs at the rumble doesn't interest me because Roman Reigns will be screwed out of the title only to gain it back and win it for the 3rd time in less than 6 months come Wrestlemania. It's too **** predictable. This whole angle with Vince sucks. It's nothing more than a poor man's poor man version of Stone Cold/Vince. They're too **** afraid of turning Roman heel. It's short sighted because if they handled it right he could have been the face they envisioned once he made the transition back.


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Yup... Next Monday Brock will declare for Royal Rumble, then he'll win it at the Royal Rumble to setup Roman vs Brock 2 for the title. Roman will beat Brock and Brock's god-like tier/strength due to beating Taker at WM, will be wasted on Roman. It is so obvious. Then what do you do after that WWE? Have Roman beat everyone on the roster cause he's kayfabe gonna be miles ahead everyone else on the roster....

Zzzzzzzzzzz

They're literally giving up Cena 2.0 like everyone feared. Difference is, Cena could actually talk on he mic and work a crowd at the very least.

That's 1 predictable way.
Another way they can go is tease the Brock win but he gets eliminated by The Wyatts or League of Nations, setting up a storyline with Brock at Mania that isn't for the title. Triple H enters himself in the Rumble & wins the belt then Roman gets his rematch at Mania. Triple H vs. Roman.

[DowNY]

I can also see them forcing Brock & Cena vs. League of Nations at Mania.

You have to also account for how they will integrate Taker, Randy Orton & Daniel Bryan

[kingquan316]

With all these scenarios with the recent posts for the Rumble, maybe it isn't as predictable as you guys think it is. I know the end game is seeing Reigns hold the title up at the end of Mania. That is obvious, but how they get there, and who he faces are not. I actually don't mind Reigns right now, and trust me I was a huge hater on him getting the Mania main event last year. However he's getting the crowd to like him more, and they are chanting his name, and I said last year around this time that if he had the crowd behind him, then I would have no problems going with him as the main guy even if I don't like his character. That was a huge problem with me for Cena, he splits the crowd and it's lame to me (his character overall makes him look like a corny doofus). I still have this feeling that Reigns will split the crowd eventually, I would hate that, but his character isn't really corny anymore, and I hope that stays. I miss the days of the super baby face with Austin and the Rock, making the roof of the stadium blow off when their theme music plays. I really want that for Reigns, and I'm gonna support him (as long as his character isn't changed to being corny, i.e. Cena).

My prediction on what will happen is that Triple H will cost Reigns the title at the Rumble, and Brock will win the Rumble and the title, but he isn't aligned with the Authority. Reigns vs. Triple H will happen at Fastlane in February, with the stipulation is that Reigns has to beat Triple H for him to get his title rematch. Reigns beats Triple H, and he will get his rematch vs. Brock at Mania. Then he beats Brock at Mania.

As for as the NJPW guys, I like what DowNY said in the post. I would totally mark out if I see them wearing Bullet Club shirts on a WWE show. That's like a dream scenario for me as a fan with them interacting with WWE guys. Bullet Club vs. a reformed Shield is must see tv for me.

[Butch718]

Having HHH win the belt at this stage of his career as a means to give Reigns his glory moment at Wrestlemania is another terrible idea. HHH has no business being the champ. I really have no faith in their writers because you can all see where this is headed. They're dead set on Reigns being their golden boy, but he doesn't get enough crowd support to garner that kind of status. He's also so bland on the mic. It makes me cringe when he does his little back and forth with Stephanie and Vince. He has his moments when he delivers a badass line, but it's so few in between. They're trying to recreate a past storyline with a guy that just doesn't have anywhere near the popularity or momentum that Stone Cold had back during the Attitude Era. Also watching Vince is just cringe worthy. He comes of as a senile geriatric.

And this League of Nations stable flat out sucks. They've been booked to look weak just so Reigns could look strong. Also, Sheamus has no business being anywhere near the main event scene. "You look stupid" is not what they should consider good crowd heat.

[Butch718]

With the way Brock has been booked, the fans would boo the crap out of Reigns if he were to win the title off him at Wrestlemania. If that happens they should just turn him heel. But we all know that would never happen.

[kingquan316]

With the way Brock has been booked, the fans would boo the crap out of Reigns if he were to win the title off him at Wrestlemania. If that happens they should just turn him heel. But we all know that would never happen.

This is true. But he is getting more of the crowd to support him right now, so they are doing something right with him. Long term will it last? I don't know, but they shouldn't stop now if they are turning the crowd into his favor. The match when he won the title in Philly, the crowd was supporting him, and that was the first sign where I was given hope for his character. They haven't screwed up yet with him since then, so I'll give him a shot, cause he isn't a cringeworthy character to me. He isn't Austin or the Rock, but to me as a character, he is light years ahead of Cena in terms of entertainment. I don't mean mic skills or even wrestling skills, I mean how the character is portrayed and written. Cena makes me wanna shoot my television when he tries to be funny.