OT: Cops kill George Floyd

BallSacBounce · Post #1561 » by **BallSacBounce** » Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:06 pm

Capn'O wrote:Are we all at least unified on statue toppling?

The preservation of Auschwitz is a ghastly warning of, reminder of and lesson about how evil men can be. Having no skin in that game I think it's a good thing they were preserved and not whitewashed. Knowing history is important IMO.

Post #1562 » by **Capn'O** » Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:37 pm

BallSacBounce wrote:
Capn'O wrote:Are we all at least unified on statue toppling?

The preservation of Auschwitz is a ghastly warning of, reminder of and lesson about how evil men can be. Having no skin in that game I think it's a good thing they were preserved and not whitewashed. Knowing history is important IMO.

But how many statues of Hitler/Goebbels/Himmler etc are there in public squares? Outside courthouses? City halls?

It's the difference between historical recognition and glorification.

Post #1563 » by **GONYK** » Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:44 pm

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@DrRJKavanagh: BREAKING: Los Angeles County sheriff's deputies shot and killed Terron Jammal Boone yesterday.

Mr. Boone was the brother of Robert Fuller, who was found hanging from a tree in Palmdale, Calfornia, in a suspected lynching, a week ago.

https://t.co/CYDEEuNyb5

Fat Kat · Post #1564 » by **Fat Kat** » Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:47 pm

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HarthorneWingo · Post #1565 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:10 am

BallSacBounce wrote:
NYKnickerbocker wrote:Officer definitely should face serious consequences for shooting and killing him. But the guy definitely should have been arrested. Passed out drunk in the drive thru lane. Some family/person is lucky he wasn’t on the highway.

Drunk drivers have affected parts of my family multiple times. Feel bad the man was killed. Had no problem with the officers cuffing him tho

What serious consequences do you think he should face? The suspect fought the officers trying to arrest him, grabbed a taser, ran and then turned around to shoot it at the pursuing officer.

In Georgia apparently a taser is considered a deadly weapon, according to what the DA said two weeks ago and who was also the one who charged the officer. This reeks of political BS mob justice.

Hey, there could be details that turn it from being justified to unjustified but I've yet to hear them. Do you know of any?

There are a ton of things I'd like to see changed with policing. Qualified immunity, no-knock warrants, civil forfeiture and a greater emphasis on techniques recognizing that police are dealing with humans and not a something that needs to be handled.

In this case though I'm not seeing the problem legally for the officer.

The Taser had already been used twice by the officer. So it was benign and the officer knew it. Plus, they spoke to him for thirty minutes without an issue. Clearly, they were not threatened by him. He just wanted to go home to see his kid graduate the next day. He was on probation at the time and any arrest meant he was going back to jail and going to miss his daughter's graduation. The cops screwed up on this one. They should've just let him walk home, give him a ride like they would've if he was white, or waiting until someone could pick him up. If no one was available to pick him up, they could've brought him back to the precinct and held in him a cell until someone could come pick him up. This is done all of the time.

ibraheim718 · Post #1566 » by **ibraheim718** » Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:21 am

They just aren't stopping. This is why I wanted to see the kids take it up a notch because it's never going to stop. They should've stormed the white house before they put up that fence.

2010 · Post #1567 » by **2010** » Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:27 am

Capn'O wrote:
BallSacBounce wrote:
Capn'O wrote:Are we all at least unified on statue toppling?

The preservation of Auschwitz is a ghastly warning of, reminder of and lesson about how evil men can be. Having no skin in that game I think it's a good thing they were preserved and not whitewashed. Knowing history is important IMO.

But how many statues of Hitler/Goebbels/Himmler etc are there in public squares? Outside courthouses? City halls?

It's the difference between historical recognition and glorification.

Exactly. That was a spin attempt.

ibraheim718 · Post #1568 » by **ibraheim718** » Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:31 am

This f**king ENRAGES ME!!!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/18/hundreds-armed-counter-protesters-confront-black-lives-matter-event-bethel-ohio

ibraheim718 · Post #1569 » by **ibraheim718** » Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:35 am

When are we going to fight back already????

Enough!!!

Peaceful means are not going to help good overcome evil. We have to start fighting back. Every time I drive by or come across some right wing trump supporter I let them have it with my words.. this isn't the time for words anymore. This is the time to fight back against what is wrong EVERY SINGLE TIME we encounter it.. all of us. There will always be strength un numbers. The kids started it and now it's time for all generations to fight back.

Post #1570 » by **Rich Rane** » Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:37 am

ibraheim718 wrote:This f**king ENRAGES ME!!!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/18/hundreds-armed-counter-protesters-confront-black-lives-matter-event-bethel-ohio

ibraheim718 wrote:When are we going to fight back already????

Enough!!!

Peaceful means are not going to help good overcome evil. We have to start fighting back. Every time I drive by or come across some right wing trump supporter I let them have it with my words.. this isn't the time for words anymore. This is the time to fight back against what is wrong EVERY SINGLE TIME we encounter it.. all of us. There will always be strength un numbers. The kids started it and now it's time for all generations to fight back.

That's cool, but did you know the NBA is coming back?

Context · Post #1571 » by **Context** » Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:38 am

ibraheim718 wrote:This f**king ENRAGES ME!!!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/18/hundreds-armed-counter-protesters-confront-black-lives-matter-event-bethel-ohio

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ibraheim718 · Post #1572 » by **ibraheim718** » Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:44 am

ITGM wrote:
Fat Kat wrote:

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That murderer deserves the death penalty: BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY!

Absolutely. He needs to be beaten way beyond the brink of his life. That is justice. This bS where he gets a trial and a jail cell? Funk that. It should be done by those that he hurt the most. And the "morally pure" or the supporters of non-violence don't have to do it. There are plenty of GOOD people who understand the dark sides of these human lives we live. If you want to stop this behavior it has to be done FAIRLY. He shouldn't have the privilege of breathing oxygen anymore. That would be wrong.

If this guy had raped a killed a child not many would object to the above. A life is a life and if you take one you should suffer the same fate.

ibraheim718 · Post #1573 » by **ibraheim718** » Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:47 am

Rich Rane wrote:
ibraheim718 wrote:This f**king ENRAGES ME!!!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/18/hundreds-armed-counter-protesters-confront-black-lives-matter-event-bethel-ohio

ibraheim718 wrote:When are we going to fight back already????

Enough!!!

Peaceful means are not going to help good overcome evil. We have to start fighting back. Every time I drive by or come across some right wing trump supporter I let them have it with my words.. this isn't the time for words anymore. This is the time to fight back against what is wrong EVERY SINGLE TIME we encounter it.. all of us. There will always be strength un numbers. The kids started it and now it's time for all generations to fight back.

That's cool, but did you know the NBA is coming back?

I waffle between escapism and revolutionism every day. As we get older we tend to feel defeated or hopeless about society and choose to escape to enjoy the few years we may have left alive.

ibraheim718 · Post #1574 » by **ibraheim718** » Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:48 am

100 s#itkicking hicks and 1 Dungeon and Dragon playing nerd. Yeah.. bunch of tough guys. Fair fight.

Post #1575 » by **GONYK** » Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:55 am

Context wrote:
ibraheim718 wrote:This f**king ENRAGES ME!!!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/18/hundreds-armed-counter-protesters-confront-black-lives-matter-event-bethel-ohio

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Disgusting

Post #1576 » by **Rich Rane** » Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:57 am

ibraheim718 wrote:
Rich Rane wrote:
ibraheim718 wrote:This f**king ENRAGES ME!!!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/18/hundreds-armed-counter-protesters-confront-black-lives-matter-event-bethel-ohio

ibraheim718 wrote:When are we going to fight back already????

Enough!!!

Peaceful means are not going to help good overcome evil. We have to start fighting back. Every time I drive by or come across some right wing trump supporter I let them have it with my words.. this isn't the time for words anymore. This is the time to fight back against what is wrong EVERY SINGLE TIME we encounter it.. all of us. There will always be strength un numbers. The kids started it and now it's time for all generations to fight back.

That's cool, but did you know the NBA is coming back?

I waffle between escapism and revolutionism every day. As we get older we tend to feel defeated or hopeless about society and choose to escape to enjoy the few years we may have left alive.

Pretty much every older black person I know and met at protests have said a variation of this. I was telling my own Nets regulars that it's why a lot of black people I've met at these protests are brought to tears by the sheer number of people and from different backgrounds willing to march with them.

Post #1577 » by **Rich Rane** » Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:58 am

GONYK wrote:
Context wrote:
ibraheim718 wrote:This f**king ENRAGES ME!!!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/18/hundreds-armed-counter-protesters-confront-black-lives-matter-event-bethel-ohio

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Disgusting

This too, man.

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Context · Post #1578 » by **Context** » Fri Jun 19, 2020 2:31 am

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Phish Tank · Post #1579 » by **Phish Tank** » Fri Jun 19, 2020 3:04 am

ibraheim718 wrote:When are we going to fight back already????

Enough!!!

Peaceful means are not going to help good overcome evil. We have to start fighting back. Every time I drive by or come across some right wing trump supporter I let them have it with my words.. this isn't the time for words anymore. This is the time to fight back against what is wrong EVERY SINGLE TIME we encounter it.. all of us. There will always be strength un numbers. The kids started it and now it's time for all generations to fight back.

I've been saying for some time that protestors should march armed in states where possible. I loved it when the Black Panthers marched in Atlanta... I wanna see something like that in Ohio & other red states to scare those tiny hand hicks.

2010 · Post #1580 » by **2010** » Fri Jun 19, 2020 3:18 am

Context wrote:
ibraheim718 wrote:This f**king ENRAGES ME!!!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/18/hundreds-armed-counter-protesters-confront-black-lives-matter-event-bethel-ohio

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If dude who assaulted that peaceful protester right in front of the cops was black, he would have gotten shot, tased, or at minimum, arrested.