Democratic Primary Thread: The Deuce

[GONYK]

Also, it's worth pointing out that Kamala Harris is the only person on either side of the Presidential ticket with a net positive rating at this time.

That's interesting for someone I keep hearing nobody likes.

Stop it guy. She couldn’t even win her own state. You can’t be serious. Only reason she’s on the ticket is because she checks the identity politics boxes, and satiates the base who was going to vote Democrat anyway. Democrats see black people as stupid and gullible, but more and more black people are waking up to the fact that their lives haven’t improved under democratic leadership. Real life is not the Twittersphere, lots and lots of people don’t like Kamala Harris and know she is a phony. Once we get closer to November all her dirty laundry will be exposed to a wider audience in comaprison to the primaries. Her record is abysmal and doesn’t correspond to what she claims to represent. She is a fraud through and through. Wait till the memes really start popping off and it’s a wrap for her.

After Biden loses I hope you guys are prepared for the inevitable exodus from the Democratic Party, because believe me it’s coming.

And yet, she has a net positive favorable.

It's almost like you have no idea what you are talking about.

[NowWHYcee7]

Also, it's worth pointing out that Kamala Harris is the only person on either side of the Presidential ticket with a net positive rating at this time.

That's interesting for someone I keep hearing nobody likes.

Stop it guy. She couldn’t even win her own state. You can’t be serious. Only reason she’s on the ticket is because she checks the identity politics boxes, and satiates the base who was going to vote Democrat anyway. Democrats see black people as stupid and gullible, but more and more black people are waking up to the fact that their lives haven’t improved under democratic leadership. Real life is not the Twittersphere, lots and lots of people don’t like Kamala Harris and know she is a phony. Once we get closer to November all her dirty laundry will be exposed to a wider audience in comaprison to the primaries. Her record is abysmal and doesn’t correspond to what she claims to represent. She is a fraud through and through. Wait till the memes really start popping off and it’s a wrap for her.

After Biden loses I hope you guys are prepared for the inevitable exodus from the Democratic Party, because believe me it’s coming.

And yet, she has a net positive favorable.

It's almost like you have no idea what you are talking about.

Why couldn’t she win her own state? She wasn’t favorable enough for the people directly under her but you are here yapping about “favorability.”

I’ll tell you why she lost her own state and had to drop out of the primary....because her constituents know she is a phony. They are familiar with her record and what she stands for. And as we get closer to the general, more Democrats will be too. Doesn’t mean they will vote for trump, but they damn sure won’t be excited to vote for Biden and Kamala. Sound familiar?

[Pointgod]

No it’s not. Not voting is not voting. If neither candidate represents me and values neither of them deserve my vote. Say what you want about Trump but he went out there and earned those votes he got by speaking directly to people’s concerns. You think you’re going to win an election because your VP is 25% black? And your head of the ticket is half brain dead? You better think again.

Not voting means that you give up your voice in any matters. If you’re a Progressive and you actively let aid Republicans by not voting or voting third party then you’ve given up any opportunity to move your policies forward. Do you care about climate crisis? gun reform? income inequality? Then vote for a Democrat because while you’ll never get 100% of what you want immediately, you’ll get some percentage. If you let Republicans win then not only do you get 0% of what you want you end up going into a deficit that’s much harder to crawl out of.

What makes you think Trump earned his votes? He won by roughly 100000 votes, there were 170,000,000 total votes casted. You don’t need to be a math genius to realized that he won with less than 1% of the total votes. 4 million people voted for Obama in 2012 that stayed home in 2016. Trump didn’t work for anything (I’ll leave out the fact that he cheated and did something illegal to help him win) he won simply because a lot of voters gave up their voice. I’m curious what specific policies of Trump do you think addressed people’s concerns?

I don’t see any difference between republicans and corporate democrats, so why would I vote for Biden? Trump is a salesman who talked his way into the White House, it is what it is, he played by the rules that were already in place, saying he cheated makes you look weak and whiny. It isn’t his fault you guys put up Hilary Clinton and just expected her to win because of her last name. You doing the same thing with Biden just because he was ObAmas VP, but low key even OBama doesn’t like Joe Biden. Hilarious.

One thing I will say is at least Trumps foreign policy has been OK in comparison with ObAma and the hawkish democratic establishment that destabilized the Middle East and then bragged about it. His economy was doing pretty damn good before the pandemic too...it’s pretty sad that the biggest boon for democrats this election season isn’t even the merit of their own nominee...but a deadly virus. Lmao.

Can you show me where Republican policies are better on the following areas: income inequality, climate change, election security, gun control, education, coronavirus response? You’re wrong that there’s no difference between corporate Democrats and Republicans, but assuming your premise is true, having Progressives in the Congress and Senate with a President Biden will push more Progressive policies. You get nothing with President Trump.

Trump and his campaign knowingly coordinated with a foreign country and wikileaks to undermine the election. This is indisputable fact. They were offered stolen information and didn’t go to the FBI. Then tried to cover up their actions. Not only is this cheating, it’s blatantly illegal. Would you be okay with Biden working with China to to beat Trump? How about getting illegally obtained information on Bernie from China to influence the primaries?

Under Trump there have been more civilian casualties in the Middle East, the number of ISIS members has increased, he’s drone strikes have increased and more. I can go into more detail if you like but Trump’s foreign policy is unequivocally worse then Obama’s. I can also show you that the economy was much better under Obama as well using different metrics. It will be a long post and I’m not going to bother posting if you’re not going to take in the information.

[Oscirus]

Stop it guy. She couldn’t even win her own state. You can’t be serious. Only reason she’s on the ticket is because she checks the identity politics boxes, and satiates the base who was going to vote Democrat anyway. Democrats see black people as stupid and gullible, but more and more black people are waking up to the fact that their lives haven’t improved under democratic leadership. Real life is not the Twittersphere, lots and lots of people don’t like Kamala Harris and know she is a phony. Once we get closer to November all her dirty laundry will be exposed to a wider audience in comaprison to the primaries. Her record is abysmal and doesn’t correspond to what she claims to represent. She is a fraud through and through. Wait till the memes really start popping off and it’s a wrap for her.

After Biden loses I hope you guys are prepared for the inevitable exodus from the Democratic Party, because believe me it’s coming.

And yet, she has a net positive favorable.

It's almost like you have no idea what you are talking about.

Why couldn’t she win her own state? She wasn’t favorable enough for the people directly under her but you are here yapping about “favorability.”

I’ll tell you why she lost her own state and had to drop out of the primary....because her constituents know she is a phony. They are familiar with her record and what she stands for. And as we get closer to the general, more Democrats will be too. Doesn’t mean they will vote for trump, but they damn sure won’t be excited to vote for Biden and Kamala. Sound familiar?

You realize that she dropped out way before California? If you're going to state bull, at least do enough research to make it believable

[Clyde_Style]

The russia stuff is not fake unless you think the congressional report from a bipartisan group is fake too.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/18/politics/senate-intelligence-report-russia-election-interference-efforts/index.html
Trump and his staff knowingly entered this dialog.

This is why Trump and Barr targeted Barr, but not Loeffler, for insider trading. They're both culpable, but Barr was the chair of that committee.

The bi-partisan findings do corroborate Mueller re: extensive extra-curricular activities between Trump associates and the Russians. Anyone who would deny this now doesn't care about the truth. No legit president has his people work to build backchannels with Russia unless they are trying to conduct illegal activities that betrays their country.

Trump is a traitor

We have never had a traitor occupying the White House. That they are a multitude of other things like a white nationalist, probable rapist and pedophile, money launderer, charity and election fraudster makes it incomparable to any other situation in the history of this country.

And anyone who mitigates the danger and evil of Trump by playing the all politics is corrupt meme game is an asshat. We should be unified behind the Democrats now because the planet's life depends on it, but the left is full of brats that want to spend all of their energy on their grievances against the DNC and the candidates when they had their whole lifetimes already to go and start a third party and run their own slate of candidates. But they never did and probably never will.

The contrast between the two options is literally life or death. We lose, we die, your friends die, your family dies. They will die at the hands of a brutal regime, at the hands of cops looking for pay back, at the mercy of an enviroment heating up to point of no return. You will be disappeared without habeous corpus by men in unmarked vans. You will be poisoned by the factory in your backyard.

THIS IS FASCISM STARING YOU IN THE FACE AND SOME OF YOU BABIES WANT TO EXTRACT YOUR POUND OF FLESH FROM THE BIDENS OF THE WORLD INSTEAD. GROW THE F UP! The only thing that matters now is winning. Sorry if that is too controversial for some of you.

Oh shut up with this Russia crap already.

When Trump goes at China you call him a racist. China is 1 million times more evil than Russia and a much bigger threat to our interests, but you guys won’t speak on it because they aren’t white or something. Get real.

Shut up about the Russia crap already says an apologist for a race baiting sociopath.

If you think Trump is not in bed with Putin, you're stupid

If you think it doesn't matter, then you're a creep

Stupid or Creep. Pick one

P.S. That you actually suggested anyone would focus on Trump's traitorous relationship with Putin because they are white just shows how in the gutter your mind actually is. You're race baiting on the most ridiculous premises.

[Pointgod]

Stop it guy. She couldn’t even win her own state. You can’t be serious. Only reason she’s on the ticket is because she checks the identity politics boxes, and satiates the base who was going to vote Democrat anyway. Democrats see black people as stupid and gullible, but more and more black people are waking up to the fact that their lives haven’t improved under democratic leadership. Real life is not the Twittersphere, lots and lots of people don’t like Kamala Harris and know she is a phony. Once we get closer to November all her dirty laundry will be exposed to a wider audience in comaprison to the primaries. Her record is abysmal and doesn’t correspond to what she claims to represent. She is a fraud through and through. Wait till the memes really start popping off and it’s a wrap for her.

After Biden loses I hope you guys are prepared for the inevitable exodus from the Democratic Party, because believe me it’s coming.

And yet, she has a net positive favorable.

It's almost like you have no idea what you are talking about.

Why couldn’t she win her own state? She wasn’t favorable enough for the people directly under her but you are here yapping about “favorability.”

I’ll tell you why she lost her own state and had to drop out of the primary....because her constituents know she is a phony. They are familiar with her record and what she stands for. And as we get closer to the general, more Democrats will be too. Doesn’t mean they will vote for trump, but they damn sure won’t be excited to vote for Biden and Kamala. Sound familiar?

She had suspended her when it came to her state. Kind of a weird criticism. Most of the candidates dropped out before Super Tuesday didn’t win their home state either. For example, Bernie lost his home town state by 50 points but that doesn’t mean he wouldn’t make a great President.

[GONYK]

Stop it guy. She couldn’t even win her own state. You can’t be serious. Only reason she’s on the ticket is because she checks the identity politics boxes, and satiates the base who was going to vote Democrat anyway. Democrats see black people as stupid and gullible, but more and more black people are waking up to the fact that their lives haven’t improved under democratic leadership. Real life is not the Twittersphere, lots and lots of people don’t like Kamala Harris and know she is a phony. Once we get closer to November all her dirty laundry will be exposed to a wider audience in comaprison to the primaries. Her record is abysmal and doesn’t correspond to what she claims to represent. She is a fraud through and through. Wait till the memes really start popping off and it’s a wrap for her.

After Biden loses I hope you guys are prepared for the inevitable exodus from the Democratic Party, because believe me it’s coming.

And yet, she has a net positive favorable.

It's almost like you have no idea what you are talking about.

Why couldn’t she win her own state? She wasn’t favorable enough for the people directly under her but you are here yapping about “favorability.”

I’ll tell you why she lost her own state and had to drop out of the primary....because her constituents know she is a phony. They are familiar with her record and what she stands for. And as we get closer to the general, more Democrats will be too. Doesn’t mean they will vote for trump, but they damn sure won’t be excited to vote for Biden and Kamala. Sound familiar?

She didn't win in her own state because she wasn't on the ballot when they voted

I'm not yapping about favorability. It's a fact that right now she's the only politician on either ticket with a net favorable rating. That is in direct conflict with the narrative that she's hated and will put people off.

You don't have an explanation. Occam's razor would say she's not as disliked as you believe.

Even without massive enthusiasm, Biden is breaking 50% in most polls, something Hillary never did. So no, it doesn't sound familiar. This isn't 2016. A lot of variables have changed.

Thinking all the conditions are the same as they were 4 years ago, and thus will yield the same result is a mistake. Especially since Trump barely won 4 years ago.

[BKlutch]

Obama killed a prominent infamous Muslim but was nevertheless a strong supporter of treating Muslims, and Muslim Americans, properly and with respect.

Maybe on the outside, but when it came down to it, he was as bad as W. Bush if not worse since he bombed Libya and Yemen as well. Lot of civilians were killed. Nothing respectable about that.

https://theintercept.com/drone-papers/the-assassination-complex/

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/12/president-obamas-weak-defense-of-his-record-on-drone-strikes/511454/

So I suppose Muslim countries can't do anything wrong, or attacking them is always wrong. Not going to get the world any further ahead.

[GONYK]

And yet, she has a net positive favorable.

It's almost like you have no idea what you are talking about.

Why couldn’t she win her own state? She wasn’t favorable enough for the people directly under her but you are here yapping about “favorability.”

I’ll tell you why she lost her own state and had to drop out of the primary....because her constituents know she is a phony. They are familiar with her record and what she stands for. And as we get closer to the general, more Democrats will be too. Doesn’t mean they will vote for trump, but they damn sure won’t be excited to vote for Biden and Kamala. Sound familiar?

She had suspended her when it came to her state. Kind of a weird criticism. Most of the candidates dropped out before Super Tuesday didn’t win their home state either. For example, Bernie lost his home town state by 50 points but that doesn’t mean he wouldn’t make a great President.

Or that he's off-putting to Democrats on his face.

[Clyde_Style]

Can you show me where Republican policies are better on the following areas: income inequality, climate change, election security, gun control, education, coronavirus response? You’re wrong that there’s no difference between corporate Democrats and Republicans, but assuming your premise is true, having Progressives in the Congress and Senate with a President Biden will push more Progressive policies. You get nothing with President Trump.

Trump and his campaign knowingly coordinated with a foreign country and wikileaks to undermine the election. This is indisputable fact. They were offered stolen information and didn’t go to the FBI. Then tried to cover up their actions. Not only is this cheating, it’s blatantly illegal. Would you be okay with Biden working with China to to beat Trump? How about getting illegally obtained information on Bernie from China to influence the primaries?

Under Trump there have been more civilian casualties in the Middle East, the number of ISIS members has increased, he’s drone strikes have increased and more. I can go into more detail if you like but Trump’s foreign policy is unequivocally worse then Obama’s. I can also show you that the economy was much better under Obama as well using different metrics. It will be a long post and I’m not going to bother posting if you’re not going to take in the information.

This is how Trump may be tried for treason if he lives long enough for it to work its way through the dockets

The DoJ will try and convict Assange of election fraud and cement the status of Wikileaks as an organization engaged in (a) election tampering and (b) working for the enemy.

Once that is accomplished, Trump and his associates (Trump, Stone, Kushner, etc.) can be charged as collaborators with Wikileaks and any related charges that apply that may or may not include election fraud and treason.

[Clyde_Style]

And yet, she has a net positive favorable.

It's almost like you have no idea what you are talking about.

Why couldn’t she win her own state? She wasn’t favorable enough for the people directly under her but you are here yapping about “favorability.”

I’ll tell you why she lost her own state and had to drop out of the primary....because her constituents know she is a phony. They are familiar with her record and what she stands for. And as we get closer to the general, more Democrats will be too. Doesn’t mean they will vote for trump, but they damn sure won’t be excited to vote for Biden and Kamala. Sound familiar?

She didn't win in her own state because she wasn't on the ballot when they voted

I'm not yapping about favorability. It's a fact that right now she's the only politician on either ticket with a net favorable rating. That is in direct conflict with the narrative that she's hated and will put people off.

You don't have an explanation. Occam's razor would say she's not as disliked as you believe.

Even without massive enthusiasm, Biden is breaking 50% in most polls, something Hillary never did. So no, it doesn't sound familiar. This isn't 2016. A lot of variables have changed.

Thinking all the conditions are the same as they were 4 years ago, and thus will yield the same result is a mistake. Especially since Trump barely won 4 years ago.

The GOP had 30 years invested in building up Hillary to be the boogeyman.

One of the issues they have now is the lack of time to slander Harris and install their memes in the minds of the sheeple who would start to say What About Kamala every time you mention her.

They'll have time to do it during Democratic rule, but the returns will be diminishing. Hillary was a once in a lifetime slander campaign payoff. There will not be another one to replace her that will achieve that degree of vehement irrational misogyny on such a massive scale

[BallSacBounce]

Except this convention hasnt been about that. But nice random complaint to show you havent been paying attention.

Yeah, it kinda has. Obama ripped Trump. It still won't work.

He ripped trump and his ability to lead, didn't attack Trump or his followers on a personal level. It's wishful thinking on your part that this wont work, but I believe it will.

To the people that voted for him last time he has delivered what he said he would. You aren't getting any of those people. You will have to either get brand new voters or get your turn out higher where it's needed. Doubt new voters are going to make that effort for a Joe Biden.

[BallSacBounce]

Yeah, it kinda has. Obama ripped Trump. It still won't work.

He ripped trump and his ability to lead, didn't attack Trump or his followers on a personal level. It's wishful thinking on your part that this wont work, but I believe it will.

Don't you think that people have already made up their minds about Trump, one way or the other, a long time ago?

Exactly Wingo

[GONYK]

Why couldn’t she win her own state? She wasn’t favorable enough for the people directly under her but you are here yapping about “favorability.”

I’ll tell you why she lost her own state and had to drop out of the primary....because her constituents know she is a phony. They are familiar with her record and what she stands for. And as we get closer to the general, more Democrats will be too. Doesn’t mean they will vote for trump, but they damn sure won’t be excited to vote for Biden and Kamala. Sound familiar?

She didn't win in her own state because she wasn't on the ballot when they voted

I'm not yapping about favorability. It's a fact that right now she's the only politician on either ticket with a net favorable rating. That is in direct conflict with the narrative that she's hated and will put people off.

You don't have an explanation. Occam's razor would say she's not as disliked as you believe.

Even without massive enthusiasm, Biden is breaking 50% in most polls, something Hillary never did. So no, it doesn't sound familiar. This isn't 2016. A lot of variables have changed.

Thinking all the conditions are the same as they were 4 years ago, and thus will yield the same result is a mistake. Especially since Trump barely won 4 years ago.

The GOP had 30 years invested in building up Hillary to be the boogeyman.

One of the issues they have now is the lack of time to slander Harris and install their memes in the minds of the sheeple who would start to say What About Kamala every time you mention her.

They'll have time to do it during Democratic rule, but the returns will be diminishing. Hillary was a once in a lifetime slander campaign payoff. There will not be another one to replace her that will achieve that degree of vehement irrational misogyny on such a massive scale

I'm also sure putting so much pejorative focus on Harris' ethnicity is really going to help along the "black exodus".

Trump is losing the black vote by almost 90 points.

[Clyde_Style]

She didn't win in her own state because she wasn't on the ballot when they voted

I'm not yapping about favorability. It's a fact that right now she's the only politician on either ticket with a net favorable rating. That is in direct conflict with the narrative that she's hated and will put people off.

You don't have an explanation. Occam's razor would say she's not as disliked as you believe.

Even without massive enthusiasm, Biden is breaking 50% in most polls, something Hillary never did. So no, it doesn't sound familiar. This isn't 2016. A lot of variables have changed.

Thinking all the conditions are the same as they were 4 years ago, and thus will yield the same result is a mistake. Especially since Trump barely won 4 years ago.

The GOP had 30 years invested in building up Hillary to be the boogeyman.

One of the issues they have now is the lack of time to slander Harris and install their memes in the minds of the sheeple who would start to say What About Kamala every time you mention her.

They'll have time to do it during Democratic rule, but the returns will be diminishing. Hillary was a once in a lifetime slander campaign payoff. There will not be another one to replace her that will achieve that degree of vehement irrational misogyny on such a massive scale

I'm also sure putting so much pejorative focus on Harris' ethnicity is really going to help along the "black exodus".

Trump is losing the black vote by almost 90 points.

Herman Cain wants a refund

[Pointgod]

Can you show me where Republican policies are better on the following areas: income inequality, climate change, election security, gun control, education, coronavirus response? You’re wrong that there’s no difference between corporate Democrats and Republicans, but assuming your premise is true, having Progressives in the Congress and Senate with a President Biden will push more Progressive policies. You get nothing with President Trump.

Trump and his campaign knowingly coordinated with a foreign country and wikileaks to undermine the election. This is indisputable fact. They were offered stolen information and didn’t go to the FBI. Then tried to cover up their actions. Not only is this cheating, it’s blatantly illegal. Would you be okay with Biden working with China to to beat Trump? How about getting illegally obtained information on Bernie from China to influence the primaries?

Under Trump there have been more civilian casualties in the Middle East, the number of ISIS members has increased, he’s drone strikes have increased and more. I can go into more detail if you like but Trump’s foreign policy is unequivocally worse then Obama’s. I can also show you that the economy was much better under Obama as well using different metrics. It will be a long post and I’m not going to bother posting if you’re not going to take in the information.

This is how Trump may be tried for treason if he lives long enough for it to work its way through the dockets

The DoJ will try and convict Assange of election fraud and cement the status of Wikileaks as an organization engaged in (a) election tampering and (b) working for the enemy.

Once that is accomplished, Trump and his associates (Trump, Stone, Kushner, etc.) can be charged as collaborators with Wikileaks and any related charges that apply that may or may not include election fraud and treason.

Oh they’re going to get a slew of lawsuits once Barr stops protecting them. We already know that Kushner, Bannon and Don Jr and a bunch of other clowns either provided misleading information or lied to Congress. We know Trump obstructed Justice. Then there’s Manafort, Trump can pardon him but then he can’t plead the fifth. Any Justice department worth their salt would have put more pressure on him.

[Clyde_Style]

Can you show me where Republican policies are better on the following areas: income inequality, climate change, election security, gun control, education, coronavirus response? You’re wrong that there’s no difference between corporate Democrats and Republicans, but assuming your premise is true, having Progressives in the Congress and Senate with a President Biden will push more Progressive policies. You get nothing with President Trump.

Trump and his campaign knowingly coordinated with a foreign country and wikileaks to undermine the election. This is indisputable fact. They were offered stolen information and didn’t go to the FBI. Then tried to cover up their actions. Not only is this cheating, it’s blatantly illegal. Would you be okay with Biden working with China to to beat Trump? How about getting illegally obtained information on Bernie from China to influence the primaries?

Under Trump there have been more civilian casualties in the Middle East, the number of ISIS members has increased, he’s drone strikes have increased and more. I can go into more detail if you like but Trump’s foreign policy is unequivocally worse then Obama’s. I can also show you that the economy was much better under Obama as well using different metrics. It will be a long post and I’m not going to bother posting if you’re not going to take in the information.

This is how Trump may be tried for treason if he lives long enough for it to work its way through the dockets

The DoJ will try and convict Assange of election fraud and cement the status of Wikileaks as an organization engaged in (a) election tampering and (b) working for the enemy.

Once that is accomplished, Trump and his associates (Trump, Stone, Kushner, etc.) can be charged as collaborators with Wikileaks and any related charges that apply that may or may not include election fraud and treason.

Oh they’re going to get a slew of lawsuits once Barr stops protecting them. We already know that Kushner, Bannon and Don Jr and a bunch of other clowns either provided misleading information or lied to Congress. We know Trump obstructed Justice. Then there’s Manafort, Trump can pardon him but then he can’t plead the fifth. Any Justice department worth their salt would have put more pressure on him.

Barr is screwed too.

Sure, all of them will garner felonies for perjuring themselves before congress. If it only comes down to that it will be enough to get convictions, but I have greater aspirations I want treason charges levied and tried

[Stannis]

Obama killed a prominent infamous Muslim but was nevertheless a strong supporter of treating Muslims, and Muslim Americans, properly and with respect.

Maybe on the outside, but when it came down to it, he was as bad as W. Bush if not worse since he bombed Libya and Yemen as well. Lot of civilians were killed. Nothing respectable about that.

https://theintercept.com/drone-papers/the-assassination-complex/

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/12/president-obamas-weak-defense-of-his-record-on-drone-strikes/511454/

So I suppose Muslim countries can't do anything wrong, or attacking them is always wrong.

Who's saying that?

Point is, you cant kill and ruin countless of innocent lives and say you treat them with respect

Not going to get the world any further ahead.

Neither will bombing the hell out of a country. I always thought that was the GOPs' way of doing things until Obama.

[robillionaire]

Yeah, it kinda has. Obama ripped Trump. It still won't work.

He ripped trump and his ability to lead, didn't attack Trump or his followers on a personal level. It's wishful thinking on your part that this wont work, but I believe it will.

To the people that voted for him last time he has delivered what he said he would. You aren't getting any of those people. You will have to either get brand new voters or get your turn out higher where it's needed. Doubt new voters are going to make that effort for a Joe Biden.

what did he deliver? didn't lock hillary up. didn't make mexico pay for the wall, didn't eliminate the debt but further increased deficits and the debt, didn't bring back manufacturing, pretty much the only thing he delivered on was "triggering the libs" which is fun and all but at the end of the day working people are still suffering, and when he wins again that will likely be the end of social security and medicare which each of his proposed budgets have included cuts. incumbents usually ask "are you better off now than you were 4 years ago" and you can bet your bottom dollar he isn't going to ever ask that because he knows that's not true for most people unless you are bezos or one of the wealthy corporations who got the tax breaks. literally all he is running on is white identity politics and culture war BS such as protecting the legacy of the confederacy and trying to portray joe biden and kamala harris as radical anarchists when one wrote the crime bill and the other is a cop

[Oscirus]

He ripped trump and his ability to lead, didn't attack Trump or his followers on a personal level. It's wishful thinking on your part that this wont work, but I believe it will.

To the people that voted for him last time he has delivered what he said he would. You aren't getting any of those people. You will have to either get brand new voters or get your turn out higher where it's needed. Doubt new voters are going to make that effort for a Joe Biden.

what did he deliver? didn't lock hillary up. didn't make mexico pay for the wall, didn't eliminate the debt but further increased deficits and the debt, didn't bring back manufacturing, pretty much the only thing he delivered on was "triggering the libs" which is fun and all but at the end of the day working people are still suffering, and when he wins again that will likely be the end of social security and medicare which each of his proposed budgets have included cuts. incumbents usually ask "are you better off now than you were 4 years ago" and you can bet your bottom dollar he isn't going to ever ask that because he knows that's not true for most people unless you are bezos or one of the wealthy corporations who got the tax breaks. literally all he is running on is white identity politics and culture war BS such as protecting the legacy of the confederacy and trying to portray joe biden and kamala harris as radical anarchists when one wrote the crime bill and the other is a cop

Yea he's basically kinda started the steps needed for his wall, redid the tax code, hurt obama care but failed to kill it off despite having the power of all three branches and tried to erase all of Obamas accomplishments. Oh and managed to started a recession , a pandemic and a civil rights war with his inactivity.

Though admittedly if you told me that the person to pardon susan b anthony and Jack Johnson would be trump, I wouldve called you insane.