Hot Topic - Quite Frankly; All Things Frank

[NYKAL]

Statistically...the team played better with Frank than any other PG on both ends of the court. He personally didn't go off and wow anyone but...the team played much better.

Now...he's playing minutes as the off ball guard or nothing at all. He is the perfect guard to play next to DSJ or mud.

and according to all analytics and advanced stats, the Bucks are favored to beat Golden State away or at home. Therefore, to quote Jalen Rose, Analytics and Stats are tools in the box, NOT the tool box. Stats mislead. Lastly, how often did he play lead guard in those games? I think you will find that when we played better with him on the floor, he WAS NOT playing PG

Yeah...I'm aware about stats. Watching the team...The ball moved more and the team played better defense...when Frank was the PG. Whenever he was on the floor...the team played better. Most of the time.

Just play him with DSJ/Dot/Knox/Mitch. That's all I ask. That's what I'm dying to see.

well, if you've been following my Posts about Frank, I definitely want him on the floor too. I've said repeatedly that the team plays better with him but, when he plays lead guard, he doesn't actually run the team . He passes it off and runs to the corner. When he plays off ball, he seems way more engaged. It could just be a false perception on my part but, its on I've noted time and time again.

[NYKAL]

Only low IQ people think Mitch has a low IQ...lmao at the some of the Gen board statements about our boy

[GONYK]

Frank kinda soft. He be taking mad long to come back from injuries. And Knox is younger yet seems more durable. Yet dudes are throwing the towel in on Knox and still being hopeful for Frank. Iono man. The one thing Frank has going for him is versatility. He can play 3 positions so it affords him the luxury of being able to fit with many different types of players/lineups. But if he was shorter and strictly a PG and showed what he has shown thus far, dude may have been dealt already. What I am basically saying is Frank better be thanking the fk out of his moms/pops for having the genetics for good height and long ass arms.

If he was shorter with short arms, he wouldn't have been drafted nearly as high as he was.

His versatility and defensive potential (which he has already cashed in on) was the whole appeal.

[2010]

Frank kinda soft. He be taking mad long to come back from injuries. And Knox is younger yet seems more durable. Yet dudes are throwing the towel in on Knox and still being hopeful for Frank. Iono man. The one thing Frank has going for him is versatility. He can play 3 positions so it affords him the luxury of being able to fit with many different types of players/lineups. But if he was shorter and strictly a PG and showed what he has shown thus far, dude may have been dealt already. What I am basically saying is Frank better be thanking the fk out of his moms/pops for having the genetics for good height and long ass arms.

If he was shorter with short arms, he wouldn't have been drafted nearly as high as he was.

His versatility and defensive potential (which he has already cashed in on) was the whole appeal.

True.

[Phish Tank]

so now Frank's soft for not coming back faster from a groin injury, an injury that sidelined Bron for a month and Steph Curry for at least 3 weeks and has a greater probability to reaggravate?

Jeez

[2010]

so now Frank's soft for not coming back faster from a groin injury, an injury that sidelined Bron for a month and Steph Curry for at least 3 weeks?

Jeez

It's not just the groin injury. How many times has dude missed games for nagging injuries. It's also the timing aspect. Dude always gets hurt when the door opens for him to see significant time so we can really see what he is made of. Twice he has gone down immediately after the incumbent starter goes out of the lineup for an extended period where we were hoping to see if Frank would step up.

[Phish Tank]

so now Frank's soft for not coming back faster from a groin injury, an injury that sidelined Bron for a month and Steph Curry for at least 3 weeks?

Jeez

It's not just the groin injury. How many times has dude missed games for nagging injuries. It's also the timing aspect. Dude always gets hurt when the door opens for him to see significant time so we can really see what he is made of. Twice he has gone down immediately after the incumbent starter goes out of the lineup for an extended period where we were hoping to see if Frank would step up.

1) He missed 3 games before the groin injury earlier in December/January due to an ankle injury. Hadn't missed any other games due to injury this season. Knox missed more games due to an ankle injury than Frank did.

2) He only had one chance to receive significant minutes after an injury and that was when Mudiay got hurt. Not multiple chances.

3) Timing is irrelevant. This isn't NBA 2K

4) Do you want him to re-aggravate a groin injury in a 12 win season?

[2010]

so now Frank's soft for not coming back faster from a groin injury, an injury that sidelined Bron for a month and Steph Curry for at least 3 weeks?

Jeez

It's not just the groin injury. How many times has dude missed games for nagging injuries. It's also the timing aspect. Dude always gets hurt when the door opens for him to see significant time so we can really see what he is made of. Twice he has gone down immediately after the incumbent starter goes out of the lineup for an extended period where we were hoping to see if Frank would step up.

1) He missed 3 games before the groin injury earlier in December/January due to an ankle injury. Hadn't missed any other games due to injury this season. Knox missed more games due to an ankle injury than Frank did.

2) He only had one chance to receive significant minutes after an injury and that was when Mudiay got hurt. Not multiple chances.

3) Timing is irrelevant. This isn't NBA 2K

4) Do you want him to re-aggravate a groin injury in a 12 win season?

Is this Frank's rookie year? Answer that question.

[eagle54]

And rookie or not what is the conclusion ?

[Phish Tank]

It's not just the groin injury. How many times has dude missed games for nagging injuries. It's also the timing aspect. Dude always gets hurt when the door opens for him to see significant time so we can really see what he is made of. Twice he has gone down immediately after the incumbent starter goes out of the lineup for an extended period where we were hoping to see if Frank would step up.

1) He missed 3 games before the groin injury earlier in December/January due to an ankle injury. Hadn't missed any other games due to injury this season. Knox missed more games due to an ankle injury than Frank did.

2) He only had one chance to receive significant minutes after an injury and that was when Mudiay got hurt. Not multiple chances.

3) Timing is irrelevant. This isn't NBA 2K

4) Do you want him to re-aggravate a groin injury in a 12 win season?

Is this Frank's rookie year? Answer that question.

No and does that matter? Have you had a strained groin before?

[2010]

1) He missed 3 games before the groin injury earlier in December/January due to an ankle injury. Hadn't missed any other games due to injury this season. Knox missed more games due to an ankle injury than Frank did.

2) He only had one chance to receive significant minutes after an injury and that was when Mudiay got hurt. Not multiple chances.

3) Timing is irrelevant. This isn't NBA 2K

4) Do you want him to re-aggravate a groin injury in a 12 win season?

Is this Frank's rookie year? Answer that question.

No

So then wtf you only mentioning his injury history THIS YEAR for?

...and does that matter?

Cuz you tryna pull a slick move and omit his injury history from his rookie year like this is his only season and he didn’t have the same thing happen year 1 when it was an opportunity to show and prove.

Have you had a strained groin before?

During your conception son

[thebuzzardman]

so now Frank's soft for not coming back faster from a groin injury, an injury that sidelined Bron for a month and Steph Curry for at least 3 weeks?

Jeez

It's not just the groin injury. How many times has dude missed games for nagging injuries. It's also the timing aspect. Dude always gets hurt when the door opens for him to see significant time so we can really see what he is made of. Twice he has gone down immediately after the incumbent starter goes out of the lineup for an extended period where we were hoping to see if Frank would step up.

Oh well. Sometimes it's just bad just. Knicks will have to wait until year 3 to see if Frank has it or not.

Well, actually, some other team, as Knicks will trade him.
Maybe he winds up on the Mavs eventually.

[21 Hussle]

Is this Frank's rookie year? Answer that question.

No

So then wtf you only mentioning his injury history THIS YEAR for?

...and does that matter?

Cuz you tryna pull a slick move and omit his injury history from his rookie year like this is his only season and he didn’t have the same thing happen year 1 when it was an opportunity to show and prove.

Have you had a strained groin before?

During your conception son

He played 78 games his rookie year...

[2010]

No

So then wtf you only mentioning his injury history THIS YEAR for?

...and does that matter?

Cuz you tryna pull a slick move and omit his injury history from his rookie year like this is his only season and he didn’t have the same thing happen year 1 when it was an opportunity to show and prove.

Have you had a strained groin before?

During your conception son

He played 78 games his rookie year...

It's not the amount, it's the habit of going down with bad timing. Right when Frank had an opening to start last year he got hurt. I believe it was when Jack went down.

[Phish Tank]

Is this Frank's rookie year? Answer that question.

No

So then wtf you only mentioning his injury history THIS YEAR for?

...and does that matter?

Cuz you tryna pull a slick move and omit his injury history from his rookie year like this is his only season and he didn’t have the same thing happen year 1 when it was an opportunity to show and prove.

Have you had a strained groin before?

During your conception son

too bad you fail to realize he only missed like 2 games last year with an ankle injury in the beginning of the season and that was it. And no, Jarrett Jack wasn't hurt at any point last year

And keep kissing Derrick Rose's ACL

[Thugger HBC]

Not to add fire to the mix, but Frank started his career injured.

[2010]

No

So then wtf you only mentioning his injury history THIS YEAR for?

...and does that matter?

Cuz you tryna pull a slick move and omit his injury history from his rookie year like this is his only season and he didn’t have the same thing happen year 1 when it was an opportunity to show and prove.

Have you had a strained groin before?

During your conception son

too bad you fail to realize he only missed like 2 games last year with an ankle injury in the beginning of the season and that was it. And no, Jarrett Jack wasn't hurt at any point last year

And keep kissing Derrick Rose's ACL

Jarrett Jack didn't play a chunk of games last year:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jackja01/gamelog/2018

Frank Ntilikina was inactive or either did not dress due to injury at three separate times last season. Each of them bad timing when there was seemingly an opportunity to start:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/n/ntilila01/gamelog/2018

Start of the year, and at the end of the year coinciding with the period was Jack wasn't playing.

• Additionally, Frank got injured during Summer League last season when we all were expecting to see him play
• He also got injured in Summer League and shut down after 1 game this season when we were expecting to see him play
• Add to that, the moment Mudiay goes down and Frank has an opening, coincidentally he is injured AGAIN

#ironman

Lastly, not sure what Derrick Rose as to do with any of this but, carry on...

[Phish Tank]

So then wtf you only mentioning his injury history THIS YEAR for?



Cuz you tryna pull a slick move and omit his injury history from his rookie year like this is his only season and he didn’t have the same thing happen year 1 when it was an opportunity to show and prove.



During your conception son

too bad you fail to realize he only missed like 2 games last year with an ankle injury in the beginning of the season and that was it. And no, Jarrett Jack wasn't hurt at any point last year

And keep kissing Derrick Rose's ACL

Jarrett Jack didn't play a chunk of games last year:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jackja01/gamelog/2018

Frank Ntilikina was inactive either did not dress due to injury at three seperate times last season. Each of them bad timing when there was seemingly an opportunity to start:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/n/ntilila01/gamelog/2018

Start of the year, and at the end of the year coinciding with the period was Jack wasn't playing.

• Additionally, Frank got injured during Summer League last season when we all were expecting to see him play
• He also got injured in Summer League and shut down after 1 game this season when we were expecting to see him play
• Add to that, the moment Mudiay goes down and Frank has an opening, coincidentally he is injured AGAIN

#ironman

Lastly, not sure what Derrick Rose as to do with any of this but, carry on...

don't be a dimwit (because you aren't).

Jack was inactive all of those games because we were tanking. Jack sat the moment after the All Star Break, which was after we got Mudiay. Tell me when was Jack hurt at any point. Just because you're DNPed DOES NOT MEAN HE WAS HURT.

And Frank was playing significant minutes anyways. I think he missed one game because he was sick but he played just about every game after the ASB.

Like someone else told you, he missed 4 games last year during the regular season. Who gives a **** about preseason and summer league. Don't be a dimwit about it.

I could give 4 **** less about Summer League and preseason. Tell me one other time he was injured in his rookie season.

And it's quite ironic that some people's favorite lovebird Dennis Smith Jr missed more games to this point that Frank did during preseason, summer league, and regular season combined. But y'all could care less since he can dunk and throw a few nice passes and ****

[21 Hussle]

So then wtf you only mentioning his injury history THIS YEAR for?



Cuz you tryna pull a slick move and omit his injury history from his rookie year like this is his only season and he didn’t have the same thing happen year 1 when it was an opportunity to show and prove.



During your conception son

too bad you fail to realize he only missed like 2 games last year with an ankle injury in the beginning of the season and that was it. And no, Jarrett Jack wasn't hurt at any point last year

And keep kissing Derrick Rose's ACL

Jarrett Jack didn't play a chunk of games last year:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jackja01/gamelog/2018

Frank Ntilikina was inactive either did not dress due to injury at three seperate times last season. Each of them bad timing when there was seemingly an opportunity to start:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/n/ntilila01/gamelog/2018

Start of the year, and at the end of the year coinciding with the period was Jack wasn't playing.

• Additionally, Frank got injured during Summer League last season when we all were expecting to see him play
• He also got injured in Summer League and shut down after 1 game this season when we were expecting to see him play
• Add to that, the moment Mudiay goes down and Frank has an opening, coincidentally he is injured AGAIN

#ironman

Lastly, not sure what Derrick Rose as to do with any of this but, carry on...

In the grand scheme of things all these examples mean absolutely nothing. Only time he’s missed significant time was during this stretch, and it’s a just a nagging groin injury. You’re making a mountain out of a molehill.

[2010]

too bad you fail to realize he only missed like 2 games last year with an ankle injury in the beginning of the season and that was it. And no, Jarrett Jack wasn't hurt at any point last year

And keep kissing Derrick Rose's ACL

Jarrett Jack didn't play a chunk of games last year:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jackja01/gamelog/2018

Frank Ntilikina was inactive either did not dress due to injury at three seperate times last season. Each of them bad timing when there was seemingly an opportunity to start:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/n/ntilila01/gamelog/2018

Start of the year, and at the end of the year coinciding with the period was Jack wasn't playing.

• Additionally, Frank got injured during Summer League last season when we all were expecting to see him play
• He also got injured in Summer League and shut down after 1 game this season when we were expecting to see him play
• Add to that, the moment Mudiay goes down and Frank has an opening, coincidentally he is injured AGAIN

#ironman

Lastly, not sure what Derrick Rose as to do with any of this but, carry on...

don't be a dimwit (because you aren't).

Jack was inactive all of those games because we were tanking. Jack sat the moment after the All Star Break, which was after we got Mudiay. Tell me when was Jack hurt at any point. Just because you're DNPed DOES NOT MEAN HE WAS HURT.

And Frank was playing significant minutes anyways. I think he missed one game because he was sick but he played just about every game after the ASB.

Like someone else told you, he missed 4 games last year during the regular season. Who gives a **** about preseason and summer league. Don't be a dimwit about it.

I could give 4 **** less about Summer League and preseason. Tell me one other time he was injured in his rookie season.

And it's quite ironic that some people's favorite lovebird Dennis Smith Jr missed more games to this point that Frank did during preseason, summer league, and regular season combined. But y'all could care less since he can dunk and throw a few nice passes and ****

Well I'll be cot-dayum...tell us how you really feel. (I guess the enlarged explains your Derrick Rose line)

You're harboring something inside bro. Let it go.

Spoiler:

DSJ is a Knick now. And just because some of us like actual talented players doesn't mean we are only enamored with dunks, flashy passes and "doing a triple-double game"

Call it dimwit or whatever you want. My point stands. Any time there is a point where Frank has an opportunity to gain some traction on the starting PG role or let us see what he has under his shirt, he finds himself injured. Summer League, preseason, regular season or whatever. Just an annoying trend. And definitely not the ironman you're making him out to be.