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Post#1581 » by WaltFrazier » Wed May 29, 2024 2:17 pm

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Wildcat wrote:I'm curious where DeMar's head at. Does he want big money or chance at a ring? I love thr idea of him off the bench.

doubtful a player of demar’s caliber would want to come off the bench, but i wouldn’t mind him either as a starter even

He's durable and led the league in minutes at his age. So could handle Thibs. I think he'd start but play fewer minutes, to allow Donte and Hart to do their thing too. Demar would take some ball handling pressure off Brunson , along with providing another scorer. With everyone healthy there'd be a lot of firepower.
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Post#1582 » by sol537 » Wed May 29, 2024 2:25 pm

Let's keep our focus on guys who are under 30 who can be with us for the next 5+ years potentially. If we start bringing in 35 year olds, we start shortening our window.

Spida and Mikal still in play. PG13 and Butler... not so much.

I wonder which teams are finally going to blow it up like Utah and Portland did recently... CHI? MIA? LAC?
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Post#1583 » by Knicksfan1992 » Wed May 29, 2024 2:30 pm

sol537 wrote:Let's keep our focus on guys who are under 30 who can be with us for the next 5+ years potentially. If we start bringing in 35 year olds, we start shortening our window.

Spida and Mikal still in play. PG13 and Butler... not so much.

I wonder which teams are finally going to blow it up like Utah and Portland did recently... CHI? MIA? LAC?


"Windows" are a facade in sports... Boston didn't worry about a window when they acquired Horford back and Holiday this summer and now they are in the finals.

Our core player is set in Brunson. We now need to try to win at all costs with said player. Age shouldn't matter, he's ready to win now.

Brunson is the window. You get the best players to fit around that regardless of age IMO. If the front office feels as though Butler and PG give us a better chance to win a championship than Spida and Mikal, then they should go after them.
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Post#1584 » by DaGawd » Wed May 29, 2024 2:33 pm

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sol537 wrote:Let's keep our focus on guys who are under 30 who can be with us for the next 5+ years potentially. If we start bringing in 35 year olds, we start shortening our window.

Spida and Mikal still in play. PG13 and Butler... not so much.

I wonder which teams are finally going to blow it up like Utah and Portland did recently... CHI? MIA? LAC?


Windows are a "facade" in sports... Boston didn't worry about a window when they acquired Horford back and Holiday this summer and now they are in the finals.

Our core player is set in Brunson. We now need to try to win at all costs with said player. Age shouldn't matter, he's ready to win now.

Brunson is the window. You get the best players to fit around that regardless of age IMO.

this, folks get too caught up on age a lot of times. i. todays nba climates you can’t really keep groups together for more than maybe 3 years tops before you have to reshuffle things a bit do to cap situations and guys needing new contracts
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Post#1585 » by Knicksfan1992 » Wed May 29, 2024 2:41 pm

DaGawd wrote:this, folks get too caught up on age a lot of times. i. todays nba climates you can’t really keep groups together for more than maybe 3 years tops before you have to reshuffle things a bit do to cap situations and guys needing new contracts


Yep, look no further than Golden State for the cautionary tale about extending their "window". Obviously, they won a ton at their peak but they got cute at the end.

Now they're stuck with an aging overpaid core around young guys who didn't quite come along as they anticipated or wanted to and they're stuck in no man's land.

Had they just traded their assets for more of a sure thing at the time even if the value wasn't great, they'd probably be in a much better spot today and been able to build a title winning team around Curry's golden years.
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Post#1586 » by dakomish23 » Wed May 29, 2024 3:03 pm

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Post#1587 » by sol537 » Wed May 29, 2024 3:28 pm

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Knicksfan1992 wrote:
sol537 wrote:Let's keep our focus on guys who are under 30 who can be with us for the next 5+ years potentially. If we start bringing in 35 year olds, we start shortening our window.

Spida and Mikal still in play. PG13 and Butler... not so much.

I wonder which teams are finally going to blow it up like Utah and Portland did recently... CHI? MIA? LAC?


Windows are a "facade" in sports... Boston didn't worry about a window when they acquired Horford back and Holiday this summer and now they are in the finals.

Our core player is set in Brunson. We now need to try to win at all costs with said player. Age shouldn't matter, he's ready to win now.

Brunson is the window. You get the best players to fit around that regardless of age IMO.

this, folks get too caught up on age a lot of times. i. todays nba climates you can’t really keep groups together for more than maybe 3 years tops before you have to reshuffle things a bit do to cap situations and guys needing new contracts


It's undeniable that when NBA players hit 34-35, their bodies break down at a faster rate and with Thibs at the helm... oh boy. The Knicks--especially--have had a terrible history of getting older players that inevitably break down when we need them most.

I don't think there's anything wrong with focusing on 25-29 year olds to add to the core rather than 34-36 year olds, especially on Max deals. Immaculate vibes can go bye bye in a hurry.
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Post#1588 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed May 29, 2024 3:44 pm

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DaGawd wrote:
Wildcat wrote:I'm curious where DeMar's head at. Does he want big money or chance at a ring? I love thr idea of him off the bench.

doubtful a player of demar’s caliber would want to come off the bench, but i wouldn’t mind him either as a starter even

He's durable and led the league in minutes at his age. So could handle Thibs. I think he'd start but play fewer minutes, to allow Donte and Hart to do their thing too. Demar would take some ball handling pressure off Brunson , along with providing another scorer. With everyone healthy there'd be a lot of firepower.

I wouldn't be upset if we got DeMar.

Where are all of the people here that wanted Lavine? :lol:
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Post#1589 » by sol537 » Wed May 29, 2024 3:46 pm

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DaGawd wrote:doubtful a player of demar’s caliber would want to come off the bench, but i wouldn’t mind him either as a starter even

He's durable and led the league in minutes at his age. So could handle Thibs. I think he'd start but play fewer minutes, to allow Donte and Hart to do their thing too. Demar would take some ball handling pressure off Brunson , along with providing another scorer. With everyone healthy there'd be a lot of firepower.

I wouldn't be upset if we got DeMar.

Where are all of the people here that wanted Lavine? :lol:


They're at the coffee shop talking hoops with all the folks that wanted KAT and Lamelo Ball :lol: :lol:
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Post#1590 » by Richard4444 » Wed May 29, 2024 4:17 pm

sol537 wrote:
DaGawd wrote:
Knicksfan1992 wrote:
Windows are a "facade" in sports... Boston didn't worry about a window when they acquired Horford back and Holiday this summer and now they are in the finals.

Our core player is set in Brunson. We now need to try to win at all costs with said player. Age shouldn't matter, he's ready to win now.

Brunson is the window. You get the best players to fit around that regardless of age IMO.

this, folks get too caught up on age a lot of times. i. todays nba climates you can’t really keep groups together for more than maybe 3 years tops before you have to reshuffle things a bit do to cap situations and guys needing new contracts


It's undeniable that when NBA players hit 34-35, their bodies break down at a faster rate and with Thibs at the helm... oh boy. The Knicks--especially--have had a terrible history of getting older players that inevitably break down when we need them most.

I don't think there's anything wrong with focusing on 25-29 year olds to add to the core rather than 34-36 year olds, especially on Max deals. Immaculate vibes can go bye bye in a hurry.


The downside of 25/29-year old stars (ish) is that usually, they are not available or extremely expensive compared with 30+ players.
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Post#1591 » by Wildcat » Wed May 29, 2024 4:20 pm

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Wildcat wrote:I'm curious where DeMar's head at. Does he want big money or chance at a ring? I love thr idea of him off the bench.


doubtful a player of demar’s caliber would want to come off the bench, but i wouldn’t mind him either as a starter even


I'm a fit guy. DeMar as the starting 2 creates the same issue we had with RJ and Randle with spacing. I also don't think DeMar can or should guard 2 guards. I would certainly prefer him off the bench. It does a couple of things, such eliminate the need for a ball handler when Josh isn't running the fastbreak, go-to scorer when JB and Randle are sitting (or off), insurance for OG and Randle (I'm predicting 70+ games for OG next season, though, because he "needs" it end of season allocates like all defensive team) if they get hurt.

Though, I'm not sure if his priorities is money or contention. Hard to imagine he's a Bull when the dust settles. He's the only official free agent I'm curious as to where he'll land, because I think he works out on teams like 76ers. By trade, I can't see a Cavs fit if Garland is traded.
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Post#1592 » by Wildcat » Wed May 29, 2024 4:28 pm

sol537 wrote:Let's keep our focus on guys who are under 30 who can be with us for the next 5+ years potentially. If we start bringing in 35 year olds, we start shortening our window.

Spida and Mikal still in play. PG13 and Butler... not so much.

I wonder which teams are finally going to blow it up like Utah and Portland did recently... CHI? MIA? LAC?


Knicks don't need to turn a blind eye over anyone in their 30's. If there's a fit, there's a fit. Spida is out of play. Cleveland doesn't fire their coach after a successful season if there wasn't a bigger plan behind the scenes. I already voiced my thoughts on Bridges.
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Post#1593 » by sol537 » Wed May 29, 2024 4:34 pm

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sol537 wrote:Let's keep our focus on guys who are under 30 who can be with us for the next 5+ years potentially. If we start bringing in 35 year olds, we start shortening our window.

Spida and Mikal still in play. PG13 and Butler... not so much.

I wonder which teams are finally going to blow it up like Utah and Portland did recently... CHI? MIA? LAC?


Knicks don't need to turn a blind eye over anyone in their 30's. If there's a fit, there's a fit. Spida is out of play. Cleveland doesn't fire their coach after a successful season if there wasn't a bigger plan behind the scenes. I already voiced my thoughts on Bridges.


I'd still put it at 50-50 Spida asks out and ends up in BRK, NYK, MIA or in Cali... Cleveland is worse than Utah (as a place to live lol)
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Post#1594 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed May 29, 2024 4:53 pm

Wildcat wrote:
DaGawd wrote:
Wildcat wrote:I'm curious where DeMar's head at. Does he want big money or chance at a ring? I love thr idea of him off the bench.


doubtful a player of demar’s caliber would want to come off the bench, but i wouldn’t mind him either as a starter even


I'm a fit guy. DeMar as the starting 2 creates the same issue we had with RJ and Randle with spacing. I also don't think DeMar can or should guard 2 guards. I would certainly prefer him off the bench. It does a couple of things, such eliminate the need for a ball handler when Josh isn't running the fastbreak, go-to scorer when JB and Randle are sitting (or off), insurance for OG and Randle (I'm predicting 70+ games for OG next season, though, because he "needs" it end of season allocates like all defensive team) if they get hurt.

Though, I'm not sure if his priorities is money or contention. Hard to imagine he's a Bull when the dust settles. He's the only official free agent I'm curious as to where he'll land, because I think he works out on teams like 76ers. By trade, I can't see a Cavs fit if Garland is traded.


DeMar is a much more efficient shooter and scorer than RJ. And he’s great in the clutch.
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Post#1595 » by Wildcat » Wed May 29, 2024 4:59 pm

sol537 wrote:
Wildcat wrote:
sol537 wrote:Let's keep our focus on guys who are under 30 who can be with us for the next 5+ years potentially. If we start bringing in 35 year olds, we start shortening our window.

Spida and Mikal still in play. PG13 and Butler... not so much.

I wonder which teams are finally going to blow it up like Utah and Portland did recently... CHI? MIA? LAC?


Knicks don't need to turn a blind eye over anyone in their 30's. If there's a fit, there's a fit. Spida is out of play. Cleveland doesn't fire their coach after a successful season if there wasn't a bigger plan behind the scenes. I already voiced my thoughts on Bridges.


I'd still put it at 50-50 Spida asks out and ends up in BRK, NYK, MIA or in Cali... Cleveland is worse than Utah (as a place to live lol)


Firing the coach is a bit of a drastic move for a 50/50 situation, though. That wasn't done for Garland.
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Post#1596 » by Wildcat » Wed May 29, 2024 4:59 pm

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DaGawd wrote:
doubtful a player of demar’s caliber would want to come off the bench, but i wouldn’t mind him either as a starter even


I'm a fit guy. DeMar as the starting 2 creates the same issue we had with RJ and Randle with spacing. I also don't think DeMar can or should guard 2 guards. I would certainly prefer him off the bench. It does a couple of things, such eliminate the need for a ball handler when Josh isn't running the fastbreak, go-to scorer when JB and Randle are sitting (or off), insurance for OG and Randle (I'm predicting 70+ games for OG next season, though, because he "needs" it end of season allocates like all defensive team) if they get hurt.

Though, I'm not sure if his priorities is money or contention. Hard to imagine he's a Bull when the dust settles. He's the only official free agent I'm curious as to where he'll land, because I think he works out on teams like 76ers. By trade, I can't see a Cavs fit if Garland is traded.


DeMar is a much more efficient shooter and scorer than RJ. And he’s great in the clutch.


It's more about spacing and less about efficiency. Ball is still going to be primarily in the hands of JB and Randle and I-Hart. Not sure DeMar is utilized best with the starters.
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Post#1597 » by sol537 » Wed May 29, 2024 5:02 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Wildcat wrote:
DaGawd wrote:
doubtful a player of demar’s caliber would want to come off the bench, but i wouldn’t mind him either as a starter even


I'm a fit guy. DeMar as the starting 2 creates the same issue we had with RJ and Randle with spacing. I also don't think DeMar can or should guard 2 guards. I would certainly prefer him off the bench. It does a couple of things, such eliminate the need for a ball handler when Josh isn't running the fastbreak, go-to scorer when JB and Randle are sitting (or off), insurance for OG and Randle (I'm predicting 70+ games for OG next season, though, because he "needs" it end of season allocates like all defensive team) if they get hurt.

Though, I'm not sure if his priorities is money or contention. Hard to imagine he's a Bull when the dust settles. He's the only official free agent I'm curious as to where he'll land, because I think he works out on teams like 76ers. By trade, I can't see a Cavs fit if Garland is traded.


DeMar is a much more efficient shooter and scorer than RJ. And he’s great in the clutch.


I'd consider DeMar if he's open to being a 6th man... 28 mins or so...

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Post#1599 » by Capn'O » Wed May 29, 2024 5:24 pm

DaGawd wrote:
Knicksfan1992 wrote:
sol537 wrote:Let's keep our focus on guys who are under 30 who can be with us for the next 5+ years potentially. If we start bringing in 35 year olds, we start shortening our window.

Spida and Mikal still in play. PG13 and Butler... not so much.

I wonder which teams are finally going to blow it up like Utah and Portland did recently... CHI? MIA? LAC?


Windows are a "facade" in sports... Boston didn't worry about a window when they acquired Horford back and Holiday this summer and now they are in the finals.

Our core player is set in Brunson. We now need to try to win at all costs with said player. Age shouldn't matter, he's ready to win now.

Brunson is the window. You get the best players to fit around that regardless of age IMO.

this, folks get too caught up on age a lot of times. i. todays nba climates you can’t really keep groups together for more than maybe 3 years tops before you have to reshuffle things a bit do to cap situations and guys needing new contracts


IMO, there's a point when you're building where that is a consideration but we're past it. Win at all costs these next few years.
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Post#1600 » by KnicksGadfly » Wed May 29, 2024 5:30 pm

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Wildcat wrote:
DaGawd wrote:
doubtful a player of demar’s caliber would want to come off the bench, but i wouldn’t mind him either as a starter even


I'm a fit guy. DeMar as the starting 2 creates the same issue we had with RJ and Randle with spacing. I also don't think DeMar can or should guard 2 guards. I would certainly prefer him off the bench. It does a couple of things, such eliminate the need for a ball handler when Josh isn't running the fastbreak, go-to scorer when JB and Randle are sitting (or off), insurance for OG and Randle (I'm predicting 70+ games for OG next season, though, because he "needs" it end of season allocates like all defensive team) if they get hurt.

Though, I'm not sure if his priorities is money or contention. Hard to imagine he's a Bull when the dust settles. He's the only official free agent I'm curious as to where he'll land, because I think he works out on teams like 76ers. By trade, I can't see a Cavs fit if Garland is traded.


DeMar is a much more efficient shooter and scorer than RJ. And he’s great in the clutch.


Are we talking about the same DeFrozen? Man has a whole set of nicknames based on how he paved the way for Randle and KAT in the playoffs

If he wants, he should just come off our bench. But if I were him, I’d just take that fat contract from Chicago.

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