OT: Trump shot at Rally.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Checking in.
Just drank 5 Truly’s on Tobay beach watchin the sunset with neighbors from my childhood. Love and laughs. life is good.

Did everyone get their run in yet?

I ran to the fridge for some toasted lagers a few times amd I'm enjoying the back yard with my music playing and a friendly game of Stump the Trumpers. It's been really entertaining.

Too soon?

[Worm Guts]

It's certainly provocative language that I wouldn't use. I'd just rather enforce the laws and keep them out. I don't know what's white supremacy about that. A standard every other nation on Earth has, can't possibly be white supremacy. Can it?

I’m not suggesting that you shouldn’t be against illegal immigration. It’s more along the lines of are you willing support a white supremacist, or at someone who panders to white supremacists, for the sake of stopping illegal immigration?

I'm going to support someone who is going to put an end to illegal immigration. It's the difference between feelings versus outcomes. Bad words are bad, bad actions are far worse.

I actually think how someone thinks is the most important thing to consider. It will tell you how they will react to different situations and different problems. When Trump doesn’t need to pander to groups to get votes, how much concern will he give their problems? Who is he going to prioritize? Who will he listen to?

[HarthorneWingo]

They are.

Win desperately need to get Biden to drop out of the race. His poll numbers are dropping in swing states. And I can only understand over other word that comes out of his mouth.

The speculation is that the Dems with wait out the week but if Biden doesn’t drop out, they re going to all go public.

Btw, JFK Jr. is disgusting.

Maybe I am way off but I still think Biden's old ass is the best option and its worse if they switch out.

Yep. The time to switch was two years ago but no one stepped up.

I don't think Newsome can win over Midwest voters. I like Whitmer a lot.

No one was going to push Joe after the midterm’s Red Wave failed miserably The commitment to only serve 4 years should’ve been nailed down when he ran in 2020 imo.

The bottom line is that Biden can’t/won’t beat Trump in November and we desperately need to make a move. To me, and many others, Biden is putting himself over country.

Though I would be fine with either of Harris, Newsom, or Whitmer, I think Harris would get the nod. I’m fine with that.

[nykballa2k4]

I'll inform my neighbor that she needs to move.

The step he is missing in his breakdown of gentrification is that its not that white people move in, it's that faceless corporations come in, nullify the rent control, renovate, and triple the rent so that only the yuppies can afford to move in, those people tend to skew white, so the people who were scraping to get by are now unhoused without a safe alternative to go to.

It's not like White Goodman buys a condo, does the whole fixer-upper thing and black people wilt like vampires seeing the light...

How is that me missing anything? You think someone is going to invest millions to improve a place if they can't raise the rent? This is EXACTLY what I said. And it's not 'yuppies' who can afford it, but people who have developed the skills to earn high pay. Production is wealth, and Dems, with the help of the NAACP know that they'll have the blacks at their feet begging for handouts as long as public schools and the apathy towards education remains where it is.

Lots to unpack here, but I will keep it brief.
a) this is circumventing rent laws, IMO there needs to be better action in place to protect renters particularly those on fixed income such as disability or retirement

b) yuppies simply mans young upper class. You make assumptions of how they got there. Could be their uncle is paying their way, it could be they have a good job, it could be generational wealth. It's not always going to be just the scrappy smart upstarts.

Judging by the totality of your post, I am assuming that you are pretty much just baiting here, so I don't think I need to respond to that last bit.

[MrDollarBills]

It's certainly provocative language that I wouldn't use. I'd just rather enforce the laws and keep them out. I don't know what's white supremacy about that. A standard every other nation on Earth has, can't possibly be white supremacy. Can it?

I’m not suggesting that you shouldn’t be against illegal immigration. It’s more along the lines of are you willing support a white supremacist, or at someone who panders to white supremacists, for the sake of stopping illegal immigration?

I'm going to support someone who is going to put an end to illegal immigration. It's the difference between feelings versus outcomes. Bad words are bad, bad actions are far worse.

Question for you.

I think that everyone who wants to live here should be afforded a reasonable, legal way to do so.

If someone comes here for asylum, there should be a humane criteria for that.

If someone comes here illegally, like say, on a flight from Europe and overstays their visa, they need to work to get their status in order. I have friends who had to do this. It sucks and is expensive, maybe we can work on that too.

But why are you so upset at undocumented immigrants? Are they impacting your quality of life bro?

[nykballa2k4]

A few things on that. One, they conveniently omit that Trump was 5 years graduated and his father would have controlled the business, and two, and more illuminating for me is that it makes no sense to assume that racism or hate was behind any difference of treatment.

Whether Fred had any animus towards black people, your can be sure he has a preference for money. So any preference he showed for one group over another would have been based in reputation, past experience or perhaps the biases of other tenants and the need to keep them happy and renting.

But it's sad that this is the best the media has when Donald's whole life has been the exact opposite. I just find the double standard funny.

Biden told a black man to his face that if y'all don't vote for him then you aren't black. Hillary talked down to black people pretending she carries hot sauce on her purse lol. But people are up in arms about Trump? It's really funny and weird at the same time.

Trump was 27 and President of the organization. He wasn't some intern.

Morse says she reported her experience to the Human Rights Commission, and then returned to the apartment building. After she was offered a lease, the black man who had tried to rent the apartment entered the office with a city human rights commissioner, and the three of them confronted the building superintendent.

"He said, 'Well, I'm only doing what my boss told me to do — I am not allowed to rent to black tenants,' " Morse says.

The commissioner asked the building superintendent to take him to his boss. That turned out to be Trump Management.

This is the first BALLBOY I haven't told to STFU and GTFO!! WOMP WOOOOMP!

2016 joined so this is someones burner. Still they can STFU and GTFO!!

[Neutral 123]

I’m not suggesting that you shouldn’t be against illegal immigration. It’s more along the lines of are you willing support a white supremacist, or at someone who panders to white supremacists, for the sake of stopping illegal immigration?

I'm going to support someone who is going to put an end to illegal immigration. It's the difference between feelings versus outcomes. Bad words are bad, bad actions are far worse.

I actually think how someone thinks is the most important thing to consider. It will tell you how they will react to different situations and different problems. When Trump doesn’t need to pander to groups to get votes, how much concern will he give their problems? Who is he going to prioritize? Who will he listen to?

People agree with how he thinks. Maybe not everything, but on principle, much of it. And of course him saying he was going to do something about illegals would garner the support of those who simply don't like people from different groups.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Trump was 27 and President of the organization. He wasn't some intern.

Morse says she reported her experience to the Human Rights Commission, and then returned to the apartment building. After she was offered a lease, the black man who had tried to rent the apartment entered the office with a city human rights commissioner, and the three of them confronted the building superintendent.

"He said, 'Well, I'm only doing what my boss told me to do — I am not allowed to rent to black tenants,' " Morse says.

The commissioner asked the building superintendent to take him to his boss. That turned out to be Trump Management.

This is the first BALLBOY I haven't told to STFU and GTFO!! WOMP WOOOOMP!

2016 joined so this is someones burner. Still they can STFU and GTFO!!

Rut roh!! STFU AND GTFO BALLBOY!!

[spree8]

Read on Twitter

Im not sure I know what he was trying to say. I'm not sure he knows what he was trying to say.

What a babbling fuggin MORON who poops his pants regularly!

The Diaper Don everyone!

lol I think what he’s saying is…


1: (talking about vaccines with RFK) he wanted small doses of vaccines given to his kids because (according to him) 38 doses of vaccines in the syringe looks like it’s for a horse.

2: he wants RFK in his cabinet in some capacity where he can do something about vaccines saying “it’ll be so good for you”

3: he spoke to Biden and Biden asked him “why did you move to the right?” and Trump responded “I was just showing the border images on the teleprompter and I turned and heard what sounded like the worlds biggest mosquito buzzing right by my ear”…the bullet.

[Worm Guts]

I'm going to support someone who is going to put an end to illegal immigration. It's the difference between feelings versus outcomes. Bad words are bad, bad actions are far worse.

I actually think how someone thinks is the most important thing to consider. It will tell you how they will react to different situations and different problems. When Trump doesn’t need to pander to groups to get votes, how much concern will he give their problems? Who is he going to prioritize? Who will he listen to?

People agree with how he thinks. Maybe not everything, but on principle, much of it. And of course him saying he was going to do something about illegals would garner the support of those who simply don't like people from different groups.

Well, if people agree with white supremacy we’re in a bad place.

[Jalen Bluntson]

I'm going to support someone who is going to put an end to illegal immigration. It's the difference between feelings versus outcomes. Bad words are bad, bad actions are far worse.

I actually think how someone thinks is the most important thing to consider. It will tell you how they will react to different situations and different problems. When Trump doesn’t need to pander to groups to get votes, how much concern will he give their problems? Who is he going to prioritize? Who will he listen to?

People agree with how he thinks. Maybe not everything, but on principle, much of it. And of course him saying he was going to do something about illegals would garner the support of those who simply don't like people from different groups.

So you supported the recent immigration bill Biden tried to pass to close the border?

[Fury]

I'm going to support someone who is going to put an end to illegal immigration. It's the difference between feelings versus outcomes. Bad words are bad, bad actions are far worse.

I actually think how someone thinks is the most important thing to consider. It will tell you how they will react to different situations and different problems. When Trump doesn’t need to pander to groups to get votes, how much concern will he give their problems? Who is he going to prioritize? Who will he listen to?

People agree with how he thinks. Maybe not everything, but on principle, much of it. And of course him saying he was going to do something about illegals would garner the support of those who simply don't like people from different groups.

What kind of Christian calls human beings “illegals”?

[MrDollarBills]

Maybe I am way off but I still think Biden's old ass is the best option and its worse if they switch out.

Yep. The time to switch was two years ago but no one stepped up.

I don't think Newsome can win over Midwest voters. I like Whitmer a lot.

No one was going to push Joe after the midterm’s Red Wave failed miserably The commitment to only serve 4 years should’ve been nailed down when he ran in 2020 imo.

The bottom line is that Biden can’t/won’t beat Trump in November and we desperately need to make a move. To me, and many others, Biden is putting himself over country.

Though I would be fine with either of Harris, Newsom, or Whitmer, I think Harris would get the nod. I’m fine with that.

Nah Wingo I disagree.

Harris is not a viable candidate right now. I have no issues with her, but on the left they call her a cop and on the right they call her a ho. It's pure racism and misogyny shaking hands.

I don't think Harris or Newsome (coastal liberal that's not gonna galvanize voters) are viable tbh

[Neutral 123]

I’m not suggesting that you shouldn’t be against illegal immigration. It’s more along the lines of are you willing support a white supremacist, or at someone who panders to white supremacists, for the sake of stopping illegal immigration?

I'm going to support someone who is going to put an end to illegal immigration. It's the difference between feelings versus outcomes. Bad words are bad, bad actions are far worse.

Question for you.

I think that everyone who wants to live here should be afforded a reasonable, legal way to do so.

If someone comes here for asylum, there should be a humane criteria for that.

If someone comes here illegally, like say, on a flight from Europe and overstays their visa, they need to work to get their status in order. I have friends who had to do this. It sucks and is expensive, maybe we can work on that too.

But why are you so upset at undocumented immigrants? Are they impacting your quality of life bro?

I just don't agree with this. This is where America First comes from. I do not agree that people with criminal backgrounds, who are known socialists, who will bring a way of life antithetical to American values have a right to become American. Choosing people with similar values, that have skills, and only what's needed is putting America first. Saying everyone else has a right to America is putting America last. Why would I be in favor of that?

[nykballa2k4]

They are.

Win desperately need to get Biden to drop out of the race. His poll numbers are dropping in swing states. And I can only understand over other word that comes out of his mouth.

The speculation is that the Dems with wait out the week but if Biden doesn’t drop out, they re going to all go public.

Btw, JFK Jr. is disgusting.

Maybe I am way off but I still think Biden's old ass is the best option and its worse if they switch out.

Yep. The time to switch was two years ago but no one stepped up.

I don't think Newsome can win over Midwest voters. I like Whitmer a lot.

Newsome policy-wise idk... I mean a lot of business left Cali under his watch. Homeless issues and crime have been big topics. He looks the part for sure, and he can tell Trump what his daughter in laws *meow* tastes like, but other than that I don't think he brings much.

Whitmer seems like a strong candidate and she is from a state that Dems need. just don't know if she actually would move the needle.

[Neutral 123]

I actually think how someone thinks is the most important thing to consider. It will tell you how they will react to different situations and different problems. When Trump doesn’t need to pander to groups to get votes, how much concern will he give their problems? Who is he going to prioritize? Who will he listen to?

People agree with how he thinks. Maybe not everything, but on principle, much of it. And of course him saying he was going to do something about illegals would garner the support of those who simply don't like people from different groups.

What kind of Christian calls human beings “illegals”?

One that values facts. They have no legal right to be in the country. They are in the country illegally. They are called illegals for short.

[wompwomp]

They should've ran a primary and let him be a one term president. I saw this coming two years ago and have expressed as much a lot. I don't care who runs against Trump...other than RFK Jr.... I'm voting for them.

The thing is Biden is doing a really good job and prob the most successful legislative president in my lifetime. Even if he had an average debate, i think he would have pull ahead. The economy is humming along. Inflation is down to 3%. Wage gap is out pacing inflation. Longest streak of low Unemployment under 4% since the 50s. Stock Market all time high. But democrats always do a bad job of messaging and republican are bad at policy but great at messaging. Now the media is on Biden and he got to pull out some of that "people keep underestimating him rudy" type magic.

I understand exactly where you are coming from. The whole messaging issue has been terrible. Zero facts from one side and not enough from the other to counterattack the blatant lies.

I just knew Bidens age was gonna be an issue. Here we are. He is still the better option though. We cannot have a fascist dictator establish laws or policy in this country. It's insane that people's willful ignorance will allow that to happen because gay/trans/minorities are destroying the country for them. It's blatant racism. Period.

I am a self employed blue collar guy. There is plenty of work out there but, I have noticed a slight down tick in work this year. I still work fairly regularly but, I am not overwhelmed or always booked like I had been previously.

The economy runs its cycles because that's the way it goes. The power structure now is to choke the economy for profits and tax the middle class to pick up the bill. Inflation is driven by corporate greed more than anything right now. It's also a result of Trump fiscal policies. That gets completely ignored. Shrinking the tax base for the rich. Artificially keeping the interest rates low to juice the economy and continuing to pressure them to do so during the pandemic left no wiggle room after the pandemic monies were given out. PRIMARILY TO CORPORATIONS. It's all Joe Bidens fault.

Yup and we are straying farther and farther from talking policy each presidential cycle and its perfect for someone like Trump cause he cant really talk about policy and his results were terrible. His whole thing is feelings. Sometimes I am amazed a guy with a gold toilet convince half the population he is doing it for the every man. He really is a grifter extraordinaire. He literally double the price of the Ma-a-Largo membership the moment he got elected and his base is like but he didnt take a salary!

For me, the thing that matters the most is the courts, they can change the social fabric of a country for decades at a time.
And big companies are starting to lower prices as well cause they have seen what the market can bare and people have started to purchase less.

[Neutral 123]

I actually think how someone thinks is the most important thing to consider. It will tell you how they will react to different situations and different problems. When Trump doesn’t need to pander to groups to get votes, how much concern will he give their problems? Who is he going to prioritize? Who will he listen to?

People agree with how he thinks. Maybe not everything, but on principle, much of it. And of course him saying he was going to do something about illegals would garner the support of those who simply don't like people from different groups.

Well, if people agree with white supremacy we’re in a bad place.

If we disagree on open borders we are in a worse place. This shaming tactic is not going to get reasonable people to support a dangerous policy. Open borders is far more dangerous than whatever amounts to white supremacy.

[Fury]

People agree with how he thinks. Maybe not everything, but on principle, much of it. And of course him saying he was going to do something about illegals would garner the support of those who simply don't like people from different groups.

What kind of Christian calls human beings “illegals”?

One that values facts. They have no legal right to be in the country. They are in the country illegally. They are called illegals for short.

So you value policy over basic human decency? This world is a material bull world and that’s how you feel? Not very Christian of you.

God > Country.

Not to mention you can just say undocumented immigrant but you are not a decent person.

[HarthorneWingo]

Maybe I am way off but I still think Biden's old ass is the best option and its worse if they switch out.

They should've ran a primary and let him be a one term president. I saw this coming two years ago and have expressed as much a lot. I don't care who runs against Trump...other than RFK Jr.... I'm voting for them.

The thing is Biden is doing a really good job and prob the most successful legislative president in my lifetime. Even if he had an average debate, i think he would have pull ahead. The economy is humming along. Inflation is down to 3%. Wage gap is out pacing inflation. Longest streak of low Unemployment under 4% since the 50s. Stock Market all time high. But democrats always do a bad job of messaging and republican are bad at policy but great at messaging. Now the media is on Biden and he got to pull out some of that "people keep underestimating him" Rudy type magic.

For the most part, Biden’s first term was perhaps the most progressive 4 years we’ve had. It certainly was the most pro-worker agenda that I can remember. Joe even walked the picket line with striking workers. He would’ve done even more had it not been for Senators Manchin and Sinema.

But Joe has dementia and/or Parkinson’s and these conditions get worse, not better, over time. We need someone new and younger who can communicate with younger voters.

Every time Joe opens his mouth, people are waiting for the next flub.The agenda will continue under a different nominee.