Trades and Transactions Thread - 2025 Cont'd

[aq_ua]

I think the rotation can be a bit more balanced if we replace Hart with Harrison Barnes, and then bringin Bruce Brown to fill the Hart role at a cheaper price. We could really commit to a 5 out lineup for significant parts of the game. Hard to figure out what we want to do without knowing who the coach is first though.

Bruce Brown is nowhere near Hart. Not in the same universe. Check the stats. Might as well say bring in Elfrid Payton to play PG instead of Brunson.

https://lastwordonsports.com/basketball/2024/12/31/knicks-urged-to-get-josh-hart-2-0-bruce-brown-in-pipe-dream-deal/

[KnixinSix]

JJJ is a pretty nice target.

How about:

1) KAT, Hart for KD, Dunn, Grayson Allen, future unprotected 1st

2) Mikal and the Phx 1st for JJJ

Mitch
JJJ
OG
KD
Brunson

Bench: Deuce, Dunn, Allen, Huk

I lean keeping KAT (younger and 3 years controlled vs 1 for KD) but I likey a lot .....KD would struggle at SG tho. Probably get away with OG there more.

We always have to think on positional splits and approx minutes to see the full roster construction and its potential.

JJJ (18)/Mitch(25)/Huk(5)
KD(20)/JJJ(15)/OG(13)
OG(10)/KD(12)
MLE (Simmons, Trent Jr, Oubre, Beasily) (30)/ OG(8)/ Wright (10)
Brunson (35)/ Wright (13)

[KnixinSix]

Other teams need reasons to do trades. They won 21 games, have an unreliable star who cant stay healthy and Dejounte is out for the year in a very tough west. Pel's arent gonna be making moves to win now. Far more likely they sell Zion for whatever they can get and tank again, cause theyre gonna be one of the worst teams in their conference no matter what they do

Expand this to a 3 team deal where we get Jones or Murphy back with JJJ from Memphis and now you are cooking with Crisco baby.

I like JJJ as a target. Memphis might be ripe for big changes this offseason. Pel's arent doing any of these trades though

Here is quite the interesting example....

[8516knicks]

I think the rotation can be a bit more balanced if we replace Hart with Harrison Barnes, and then bringin Bruce Brown to fill the Hart role at a cheaper price. We could really commit to a 5 out lineup for significant parts of the game. Hard to figure out what we want to do without knowing who the coach is first though.

Bruce Brown is nowhere near Hart. Not in the same universe. Check the stats. Might as well say bring in Elfrid Payton to play PG instead of Brunson.

https://lastwordonsports.com/basketball/2024/12/31/knicks-urged-to-get-josh-hart-2-0-bruce-brown-in-pipe-dream-deal/

Matthew Legros of Empire Sports Media - yeah, he counts as a basketball G*d.

[mademan]

Expand this to a 3 team deal where we get Jones or Murphy back with JJJ from Memphis and now you are cooking with Crisco baby.

I like JJJ as a target. Memphis might be ripe for big changes this offseason. Pel's arent doing any of these trades though

Here is quite the interesting example....

I think you have to find another team to give good value for Bridges. Memphis isnt trading JJJ only to then end up paying Bridges, a much worse player, 80% of what JJJ would make. This would be a cost cutting move, so they'd need picks and players under cheap multi year contracts

[Janquinn87]

Why in the hell do you want to trade a center that average 24.4 pt 12.8 rbs and 3.0 ast a game. Kat shot 52% from the field and 42%from three. Good luck replacing That, ungrateful Knicks fans.

[KnixinSix]

I like JJJ as a target. Memphis might be ripe for big changes this offseason. Pel's arent doing any of these trades though

Here is quite the interesting example....

I think you have to find another team to give good value for Bridges. Memphis isnt trading JJJ only to then end up paying Bridges, a much worse player, 80% of what JJJ would make. This would be a cost cutting move, so they'd need picks and players under cheap multi year contracts

I would disagree a bit there made. We as fans tend to be very overreactionary to the most recent and surface level optics without digging much further. Bridges was a center piece in a younger KD trade as well as just traded for FIVE 1st round picks last year. Multiple other teams made offers including Houston who offered 4 1st rd picks for him.

His misutilization under Thibs should not be held harshly against him. Also being the fourth option means he wont score nearly as much as he is capable of. JJJ is the better player of the 2 but it isnt as far off as some may think. You add Robinson which would be a much needed defensive closer for that team I thin they would absolutely run to do that deal especially in the context if JJJ was hinting at leaving.

[mademan]

Here is quite the interesting example....

I think you have to find another team to give good value for Bridges. Memphis isnt trading JJJ only to then end up paying Bridges, a much worse player, 80% of what JJJ would make. This would be a cost cutting move, so they'd need picks and players under cheap multi year contracts

I would disagree a bit there made. We as fans tend to be very overreactionary to the most recent and surface level optics without digging much further. Bridges was a center piece in a younger KD trade as well as just traded for FIVE 1st round picks last year. Multiple other teams made offers including Houston who offered 4 1st rd picks for him.

His misutilization under Thibs should not be held harshly against him. Also being the fourth option means he wont score nearly as much as he is capable of. JJJ is the better player of the 2 but it isnt as far off as some may think. You add Robinson which would be a much needed defensive closer for that team I thin they would absolutely run to do that deal especially in the context if JJJ was hinting at leaving.

Teams dont trade yesterday's price for today's player. Moreso when that player is a FA to be

[KnixinSix]

I think you have to find another team to give good value for Bridges. Memphis isnt trading JJJ only to then end up paying Bridges, a much worse player, 80% of what JJJ would make. This would be a cost cutting move, so they'd need picks and players under cheap multi year contracts

I would disagree a bit there made. We as fans tend to be very overreactionary to the most recent and surface level optics without digging much further. Bridges was a center piece in a younger KD trade as well as just traded for FIVE 1st round picks last year. Multiple other teams made offers including Houston who offered 4 1st rd picks for him.

His misutilization under Thibs should not be held harshly against him. Also being the fourth option means he wont score nearly as much as he is capable of. JJJ is the better player of the 2 but it isnt as far off as some may think. You add Robinson which would be a much needed defensive closer for that team I thin they would absolutely run to do that deal especially in the context if JJJ was hinting at leaving.

Teams dont trade yesterday's price for today's player. Moreso when that player is a FA to be

1.That applies to JJJ equally as he is in the last year too
2. Bridges with a bit more inconsistent play here has nothing to do with age and he is an iron man. Deals are always about figuring out the value of a player based on future expected performance . The formula is also based on mutliple factors more than just strictly how they produced numberwise the previous year.

Bridges may have left a sour taste in your mouth for how he ultimately played here but it is likely due to the horrible misutilization by Thibs more than anything else.

[VirginiaKnickFan]

Here is quite the interesting example....

I think you have to find another team to give good value for Bridges. Memphis isnt trading JJJ only to then end up paying Bridges, a much worse player, 80% of what JJJ would make. This would be a cost cutting move, so they'd need picks and players under cheap multi year contracts

I would disagree a bit there made. We as fans tend to be very overreactionary to the most recent and surface level optics without digging much further. Bridges was a center piece in a younger KD trade as well as just traded for FIVE 1st round picks last year. Multiple other teams made offers including Houston who offered 4 1st rd picks for him.

His misutilization under Thibs should not be held harshly against him. Also being the fourth option means he wont score nearly as much as he is capable of. JJJ is the better player of the 2 but it isnt as far off as some may think. You add Robinson which would be a much needed defensive closer for that team I thin they would absolutely run to do that deal especially in the context if JJJ was hinting at leaving.

The Knicks OVERPAID, that's on them. The league doesn't value Bridges on what the Knicks trade for him.

[8516knicks]

Go for Myles Turner instead. Pacers might not be able to re-sign him. Hart and McBride for Turner in a sign and trade.

Watching the Pacers in these playoffs, I don't get the Turner love. If he's not hitting the open 3's (which he does do and seems his elite skill), he's not much different than KAT on D. I see him constantly out-muscled for rebounds by OKC and he gets 5.1 rebounds a game in 30 min in the Playoffs. Hart got 8.8 for comparison. Even in regular season he hasn't broken 7.5 rebounds in HIS CAREER.

[KnixinSix]

I think you have to find another team to give good value for Bridges. Memphis isnt trading JJJ only to then end up paying Bridges, a much worse player, 80% of what JJJ would make. This would be a cost cutting move, so they'd need picks and players under cheap multi year contracts

I would disagree a bit there made. We as fans tend to be very overreactionary to the most recent and surface level optics without digging much further. Bridges was a center piece in a younger KD trade as well as just traded for FIVE 1st round picks last year. Multiple other teams made offers including Houston who offered 4 1st rd picks for him.

His misutilization under Thibs should not be held harshly against him. Also being the fourth option means he wont score nearly as much as he is capable of. JJJ is the better player of the 2 but it isnt as far off as some may think. You add Robinson which would be a much needed defensive closer for that team I thin they would absolutely run to do that deal especially in the context if JJJ was hinting at leaving.

The Knicks OVERPAID, that's on them. The league doesn't value Bridges on what the Knicks trade for him.

Houston valued him at 4 first round picks. Mitch even with his injuries bc of his elite defensive stopper potential which was on display vs two of the best teams in the NBA is worth at least 1 FRP.

JJJ is on the last year of his deal too. It ABSOLUTELY is fair value or....at most you throw in one of the few picks we have.

[KnixinSix]

Go for Myles Turner instead. Pacers might not be able to re-sign him. Hart and McBride for Turner in a sign and trade.

Watching the Pacers in these playoffs, I don't get the Turner love. If he's not hitting the open 3's (which he does do and seems his elite skill), he's not much different than KAT on D. I see him constantly out-muscled for rebounds by OKC and he gets 5.1 rebounds a game in 30 min in the Playoffs. Hart got 8.8 for comparison. Even in regular season he hasn't broken 7.5 rebounds in HIS CAREER.

I mean I like Myles Turner but some most certainly overrate him as well.

[VirginiaKnickFan]

I would disagree a bit there made. We as fans tend to be very overreactionary to the most recent and surface level optics without digging much further. Bridges was a center piece in a younger KD trade as well as just traded for FIVE 1st round picks last year. Multiple other teams made offers including Houston who offered 4 1st rd picks for him.

His misutilization under Thibs should not be held harshly against him. Also being the fourth option means he wont score nearly as much as he is capable of. JJJ is the better player of the 2 but it isnt as far off as some may think. You add Robinson which would be a much needed defensive closer for that team I thin they would absolutely run to do that deal especially in the context if JJJ was hinting at leaving.

The Knicks OVERPAID, that's on them. The league doesn't value Bridges on what the Knicks trade for him.

Houston valued him at 4 first round picks. Mitch even with his injuries bc of his elite defensive stopper potential which was on display vs two of the best teams in the NBA is worth at least 1 FRP.

JJJ is on the last year of his deal too. It ABSOLUTELY is fair value or....at most you throw in one of the few picks we have.

Bridges ppg has been declining each year since 2022-23 from 26.1 ppg, to this year's 17.6 ppg. Teams aren't going to be paying 4 first round picks for him now.

[BowlRips]

I like JJJ as a target. Memphis might be ripe for big changes this offseason. Pel's arent doing any of these trades though

Here is quite the interesting example....

I think you have to find another team to give good value for Bridges. Memphis isnt trading JJJ only to then end up paying Bridges, a much worse player, 80% of what JJJ would make. This would be a cost cutting move, so they'd need picks and players under cheap multi year contracts

Posted this same deal last week with a diff bit of variation.

Wild 5 way trade:

Towns to Phx for Kevin Durant
Hart to Sacramento for Keegan Murray and 1st
Deuce to T-Wolves for DDV
Keegan Murray, Mikal Bridges, Sac 1st, NY 1st to Memphis for JJJ and Brandon Clarke
Sign Bruce Brown with the TPMLE

JJJ/Mitch
OG/Clark
KD
DDV/Brown
Brunson/Kolek

[Besart19]

Expand this to a 3 team deal where we get Jones or Murphy back with JJJ from Memphis and now you are cooking with Crisco baby.

I like JJJ as a target. Memphis might be ripe for big changes this offseason. Pel's arent doing any of these trades though

Here is quite the interesting example....

this is the only trade that makes trade either we trade or keep Towns... Towns, Giannis, Durant, all would fit perfectly in a lineup with the other 4 starters...

Towns and Hart for Giannis and Portis

JJJ / Hukporti / Tucker
Giannis (KAT) / Portis (Hart)
Anunoby / Shamet / Dadiet
Donte / McBride / McCullar
Brunson / Wright / Kolek

Chris Paul for the MLE would be great too for the last spot... or a 3&D forward like Dorian Finney

[knicksstuff]

The Suns can not aggregate players in trades.... they are in the second apron if KD is getting traded its by himself

[KnixinSix]

I like JJJ as a target. Memphis might be ripe for big changes this offseason. Pel's arent doing any of these trades though

Here is quite the interesting example....

this is the only trade that makes trade either we trade or keep Towns... Towns, Giannis, Durant, all would fit perfectly in a lineup with the other 4 starters...

Towns and Hart for Giannis and Portis

JJJ / Hukporti / Tucker
Giannis (KAT) / Portis (Hart)
Anunoby / Shamet / Dadiet
Donte / McBride / McCullar
Brunson / Wright / Kolek

Chris Paul for the MLE would be great too for the last spot... or a 3&D forward like Dorian Finney

If we could then flip KAT for Giannis in a subsequent deal that would be incredible. But to get Donte you almost definitely have to give up McBride/Kolek bc that fills a big need for Minny. A pure point as Conley is cooked and a backcourt defender and 3 ball in McBride to pair with their offensive guys.

We would then use the MLE for a decent role player possibility one of Oubre, Trent Jr, Simmons, Beasily

[mpharris36]

The Suns can not aggregate players in trades.... they are in the second apron if KD is getting traded its by himself

correct but they in theory could make a separate 1 on 1 trade as well into someone TPE or something like that.

But the KD trade has to be KD by himself.

[KnixinSix]

Here is quite the interesting example....

I think you have to find another team to give good value for Bridges. Memphis isnt trading JJJ only to then end up paying Bridges, a much worse player, 80% of what JJJ would make. This would be a cost cutting move, so they'd need picks and players under cheap multi year contracts

Posted this same deal last week with a diff bit of variation.

Wild 5 way trade:

Towns to Phx for Kevin Durant
Hart to Sacramento for Keegan Murray and 1st
Deuce to T-Wolves for DDV
Keegan Murray, Mikal Bridges, Sac 1st, NY 1st to Memphis for JJJ and Brandon Clarke
Sign Bruce Brown with the TPMLE

JJJ/Mitch
OG/Clark
KD/
DDV/Brown
Brunson/Kolek

Absolutely wild if you could pull that off. No need to play any guy more than 32 minutes until the playoffs.

My version of yours is close when I do the salary matching and what the other team might want.

JJJ/Huk
OG/Clarke
KD/Clarke/Brown
DDV/Brown/Wright
Brunson/Wright