[Camelo Thread Part 12] - Melo's list grows? pg. 50

[Pharmcat]

i wasnt aware carmelo has said himself to the public he is coming to NY regardless

whatever a "analyst" writes or tweet is still the same as b4: speculation

This one's for you Pharmcat :

Carmelo Anthony's "ultimate dream" would be to play in New York, the Denver Nuggets forward said Friday in an interview with ESPN's Colleen Dominguez.

Anthony and his wife, LaLa Vazquez, are from the area.

"That's like the ultimate dream at the end of the day," Anthony said. "Who wouldn't want to go back home to play?"

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/ ... id=6023180

just like lebron told larry king cle has an advantage signing him over others?

just like arod told couric he has never done steroids?

taking anything at face value what the atheletes say is shortsighted

[Pharmcat]

i wasnt aware carmelo has said himself to the public he is coming to NY regardless

whatever a "analyst" writes or tweet is still the same as b4: speculation

This one's for you Pharmcat :

Carmelo Anthony's "ultimate dream" would be to play in New York, the Denver Nuggets forward said Friday in an interview with ESPN's Colleen Dominguez.

Anthony and his wife, LaLa Vazquez, are from the area.

"That's like the ultimate dream at the end of the day," Anthony said. "Who wouldn't want to go back home to play?"

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/ ... id=6023180

Pharmcat will ignore this

nope its answered

[Context]

i wasnt aware carmelo has said himself to the public he is coming to NY regardless

whatever a "analyst" writes or tweet is still the same as b4: speculation

This one's for you Pharmcat :

Carmelo Anthony's "ultimate dream" would be to play in New York, the Denver Nuggets forward said Friday in an interview with ESPN's Colleen Dominguez.

Anthony and his wife, LaLa Vazquez, are from the area.

"That's like the ultimate dream at the end of the day," Anthony said. "Who wouldn't want to go back home to play?"

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/ ... id=6023180

just like lebron told larry king cle has an advantage signing him over others?

just like arod told couric he has never done steroids?

taking anything at face value what the atheletes say is shortsighted

You know Pharm, I can't blame you for seeing it that way. People lie. I just think Melo is smarter and more Mature than Lebron. Lebron made an immature decision that he will regret when he becomes wiser. Lebron admitted to Melo that he made a mistake in the way he handled his exit. When he evolves as a human being he will realize his other mistake...

Melo however, understands the magnitude of winning in NY. Plus, NY is part of his core. I believe Melo when he says it's his ultimate dream.

Were there any direct quotes from owners about where Lebron wanted to be? I'm not trying to convince you -just asking the question...

[Knicker23]

Melo is coming to NY, full money or not.

He can't make it all up in endorsements, but he can make a bunch if it was really that important to him.. but if that were the case that contract on the table would have been signed...

As the Warriors owner said, he wants this area. His family / LaLa want this area. He ain't going to let a couple million stop that from happening. As the players union guy advised him, 'go about the process as you normally would' - new CBA isn't going to stop him either.

Could I perhaps see him going to the Bulls if they somehow gave the Nuggets an offer and allowed him for a sign and trade, eh perhaps... but even then - he doesn't want Chicago... he wants NY... Not that I think the Bulls would be able to pull it off.

Considering the way we're playing we should be thankful we happen to play in the greatest city in the world and have Amare here, as we're we the Memphis Griz I don't think Melo would care all that much about us, Amare or not.

[Pharmcat]

You know Pharm, I can't blame you for seeing it that way. People lie. I just think Melo is smarter and more Mature than Lebron. Lebron made an immature decision that he will regret when he becomes wiser. Lebron admitted to Melo that he made a mistake in the way he handled his exit. When he evolves as a human being he will realize his other mistake...

Melo however, understands the magnitude of winning in NY. Plus, NY is part of his core. I believe Melo when he says it's his ultimate dream.

Were there any direct quotes from owners about where Lebron wanted to be? I'm not trying to convince you -just asking the question...

dont get me wrong, melo to NY is a dream scenario for both invovled and Id support it (unlike others who are against melo)

having said that, I dont believe anything until the dotted line is signed, a lesson learned from the lebron saga last summer

[Punk]

When it's all said and done. I will not feel bad for Denver whatsoever. They basically ruined our players morale dragging this thing out.

[towelie]

You know Pharm, I can't blame you for seeing it that way. People lie. I just think Melo is smarter and more Mature than Lebron. Lebron made an immature decision that he will regret when he becomes wiser. Lebron admitted to Melo that he made a mistake in the way he handled his exit. When he evolves as a human being he will realize his other mistake...

Melo however, understands the magnitude of winning in NY. Plus, NY is part of his core. I believe Melo when he says it's his ultimate dream.

Were there any direct quotes from owners about where Lebron wanted to be? I'm not trying to convince you -just asking the question...

dont get me wrong, melo to NY is a dream scenario for both invovled and Id support it (unlike others who are against melo)

having said that, I dont believe anything until the dotted line is signed, a lesson learned from the lebron saga last summer

This is nothing like the LeBron saga though.

- LeBron only flirted with us by making comments like "MSG is the greatest arena in the world," and wearing Yankee caps. In the end, we read too much into his actions and statements, when all he was really saying was "I want out of Cleveland," and not "I want out of Cleveland to go to NY."

- LeBron wasn't born in NY and has no ties to NY. He didn't play college ball in NY. He doesn't have a wife born and raised in NY.

- NY didn't have a good team when they were pitching to LeBron. I mean seriously, the only returning players we had on a 29-win team was Gallo/Chandler, and we had to try and sell LeBron on resurrecting this franchise. I remember I was in agreement with you back in June that we needed to make more moves like a Collison/Okafor trade cause LeBron wasn't going to be convinced by our roster. Luckily we didn't make those moves cause Collison/Okafor is no DWade/Bosh.

But we're not asking Melo the same. We're asking him to team up with Amar'e and Felton and be the missing piece to push us to a contender. We're not asking him to be our savior.

- We also have ZERO competition now too. LeBron had a lot of suitors, a lot of choices. Now that the Nets are out of the picture, we're the only team remaining, and we'd be stupid to bid against ourselves, especially when Melo WANTS to be a Knick. The only thing that will stop that from happening is Denver's spitefulness and changes in the new CBA that prevent us from signing him in the offseason.

[Justdatdude]

I guess now Chris Broussard has legit sources...?

[Pharmcat]

that may be true

but melo is represented by the same clowns as lbj

the apple doesnt fall far from the tree

[Falstaffxx]

It's not about "making more money from endorsements." It's about building your personal brand long-term. Melo isn't going to suddenly go out and tell everyone about memory foam, but he'll he become a bigger deal overall, which will ultimately lead to a lot of money.

[BigUgly]

I never doubted Broussard itn was that damn Wojo who seemed to be taking leaps. I honestly feel if it was not Miami it was the Bulls.

[Falstaffxx]

I never doubted Broussard itn was that damn Wojo who seemed to be taking leaps. I honestly feel if it was not Miami it was the Bulls.

I think the Bulls thing was bogus from day 1.

[Gregory151]

Sorry if posted already:

The source said most of that package will likely be part of any deal that does go down between the teams, if an agreement can be reached by the Feb. 24 trade deadline. And while Fields is valued within the Knicks organization, the source said the Nuggets "don't hold Fields in great esteem."

One would think that Fields, a two-time Eastern Conference Rookie of the Month selection who has emerged as a second-round gem, would have some value, especially with such an affordable salary ($788,872 in 2011-12). But the Nuggets weren't high on Fields in the draft and believe they have a better version in Arron Afflalo, who is a favorite of the coaching staff. But Fields could be included if the Nuggets feel they can flip him in another deal.

http://mobile.newsday.com/inf/infomo;JS ... nopaging=1
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i didnt know they supposedly dont like fields... smh.. wtf do these guys want.. i dont know why they dont just suck it up & talk to donnie so he can get another team involved.

[Justdatdude]

Afflalo is better than Fields and Fields is a great hustle player and high IQ player. That's it. He won Rookie Of The Month because John Wall kept getting hurt. I like the kid, but you have to be realistic. Does anyone see Fields turning into a star? Why should the Nuggets be willing to trade us Melo just for Fields?

Sometimes taking nothing is better than getting something. Fields and Gallo serve no purpose on the Nuggets. That's reality. Chandler could serve purpose, but with him looking at a contract extension, why would they trade for him? They would be better off trying to get 2 first round picks at the end of the year or just seeing where they finish and try to make moves to better their franchise.

[sol537]

Many people, fans and reporters alike, are forgetting that not only was 'Melo born in NY and considers himself a New Yorker at heart, but his favorite team was and still is the New York Knicks. From the articles I've read, his dream is to play for the Knicks.

If you ask me, I wouldn't be surprised if he's been wanting to play here since he got into the league but has been patiently waiting for his opportunity (ie free agency). He's so close now and he has a couple of ways to make that dream a reality.

[Li'l Penny]

Get Melo and keep Fields? Do the deal Donnie!

[moocow007]

I thought this comment regarding this story was hilarious.

"1522scooter (1/22/2011 at 9:39 AM)
Are these the same sources that told you Lebron wanted to go to Chicago? That story was never true.

I seriously doubt that Minny or Indy would give a 1st round pick for Randolph. In fact, I can't see any team giving a 1st round pick for him. There's a reason he gets almost zero PT with the Knicks and isn't because the Knicks are so deep at PF they don't need him.

I also think the apparent obsession Melo has with the Knicks is manufactured. Lebron was also obsessed with the Knicks a few years ago. How'd that turn out? Seems like the same M.O. devised by the Knicks.

This is the same crap as last season. If Melo wants to win, he'll go to the Bulls. If the Nuggs were smart, they'd take Deng for Melo or Deng and Boozer for Melo and Nene and call it a day. That leaves them with a playoff team that can compete and bring in money for the franchise."---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The Randolph thing is stupid cause there's multiple team that would give up a 1st rounder and nobody has denied that.

Lebron was never obsessed with the Knicks. There was never one report that said LeBron wants to be a knick, it was all the assumption that he wanted to make big money and NY was the place. Melo is literally forcing his way to the Garden. And the Knicks have never made this their story, most of the writers reporting Melo's NYK desire don't even work in NY.

And if Melo wants to win he'll go too the bulls? Lol Deng and Boozer for Melo and Nene? That's terrible, I'm sure Denver is dying to add the remaining over $100 million that Boozer and Deng will bring and pay over 50% of their cap to those 2 players for the next 3 seasons.

I get this guy's probably a Bulls fan and doesn't want the Knicks to get Melo and wants the Bulls to get him, but making this little sense is just (Please Use More Appropriate Word).

lol who is this 1522scooter idiot?

[moocow007]

Saying that Melo can 'make up lost money in endorsements' is one of the silliest statements I've ever heard. Whoever is making those types of statements are either ignorant or flat out lying. The money he loses out in not signing now cannot be made up.

And you know the new CBA because? And you know the endorsements he'd get by playing in NY compared to Denver how?

[moocow007]

Knicks get

Carmelo anthony

Denver get

Andre Iguodala
Thaddeus Young
1st philly
1st Ny

PHILLY GET

landry fields
wilson chandler
anthony randolph
Eddy curry


Why for philly?

They get cap relief and a power forward for the future in randolph. Landry fields is a no brainer. Wilson chandler is a rfa.

Why for denver?

They get Iguodala who can keep the team in the playoffs and young who can be a solid bench player. They also get 2 draft picks.

Why would Denver want Young (who's also a RFA) over Chandler? Young is the lesser player of the two.

[Jmonty580]

Afflalo is better than Fields and Fields is a great hustle player and high IQ player. That's it. He won Rookie Of The Month because John Wall kept getting hurt. I like the kid, but you have to be realistic. Does anyone see Fields turning into a star? Why should the Nuggets be willing to trade us Melo just for Fields?

Sometimes taking nothing is better than getting something. Fields and Gallo serve no purpose on the Nuggets. That's reality. Chandler could serve purpose, but with him looking at a contract extension, why would they trade for him? They would be better off trying to get 2 first round picks at the end of the year or just seeing where they finish and try to make moves to better their franchise.

I dont understand though if Denver doesnt like the Knicks peices why dont they just say what they are looking for? Give the KNicks a list of players and an idea of what type of package they are looking for in order to let Melo go. Gallo, Fields, Chandler, Curry, AR these guys can all be used to get us the peices that Denver covets or at least things that they can work with. In this case something is better than nothing. If you have to take Gallo and fields or nothing you take Gallo and fields becaue they have value. Flip them later for picks or whatever your heart desires.