Rose found not liable: Update pg. 62

[trophywinner]

This is more or less exactly my opinion on the topic. The only other thing is that the LAPD has now opened a criminal investigation, so the possibility of a criminal trial is now on the table to a degree. Phil should've either maintained Rose's unequivocal innocence, or he should've spoken up about how concerning the allegations are. To basically say that he didn't feel the need to investigate is to minimize the horrors of sexual assault. Especially in 2016, when it's such a prevalent conversation in the public discourse.

but, the LAPD didn't just now open a criminal investigation. this is what happens when your only source is "thinkprogress". and better chance of you going to the moon, than the possibility of a criminal trial here.

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[Zooropa]

This is more or less exactly my opinion on the topic. The only other thing is that the LAPD has now opened a criminal investigation, so the possibility of a criminal trial is now on the table to a degree. Phil should've either maintained Rose's unequivocal innocence, or he should've spoken up about how concerning the allegations are. To basically say that he didn't feel the need to investigate is to minimize the horrors of sexual assault. Especially in 2016, when it's such a prevalent conversation in the public discourse.

but, the LAPD didn't just now open a criminal investigation. this is what happens when your only source is "thinkprogress". and better chance of you going to the moon, than the possibility of a criminal trial here.

The LAPD investigation was first reported on Monday, and it wasn't by ThinkProgress.

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[Amsterdam]

The question will be, yes she was drinking, but was she drunk or not?

Since there is no proof of blood alcohol level, the jury would have to rely solely on witness testimony, etc.

[trophywinner]

This is more or less exactly my opinion on the topic. The only other thing is that the LAPD has now opened a criminal investigation, so the possibility of a criminal trial is now on the table to a degree. Phil should've either maintained Rose's unequivocal innocence, or he should've spoken up about how concerning the allegations are. To basically say that he didn't feel the need to investigate is to minimize the horrors of sexual assault. Especially in 2016, when it's such a prevalent conversation in the public discourse.

but, the LAPD didn't just now open a criminal investigation. this is what happens when your only source is "thinkprogress". and better chance of you going to the moon, than the possibility of a criminal trial here.

The LAPD investigation was first reported on Monday, and it wasn't by ThinkProgress.

it actually was reported by think progress. and while it may have been reported on monday as "rose faces criminal charges" (sensationalism much?), it has been known the case has been "open" with the LAPD for 2 years now. hell, check the date on the letter, it was dated a week before it was even released. the accuser's lawyers were holding onto it specifically for knick's media day.

Rose’s team responded that the LAPD letter presented no new evidence and that Doe’s motion should be denied. In particular, they noted that the letter “simply repeats what the parties have known since December 2015 — that Ms. Doe went to the LAPD in December 2015 and the LAPD opened a criminal investigation at that time that has not since resulted in criminal charges.”

source: http://thewhitebronco.com/2016/09/derrick-rose-lawsuit-update-wednesday-september-28-2016/

[Zooropa]

but, the LAPD didn't just now open a criminal investigation. this is what happens when your only source is "thinkprogress". and better chance of you going to the moon, than the possibility of a criminal trial here.

The LAPD investigation was first reported on Monday, and it wasn't by ThinkProgress.

it actually was reported by think progress. and while it may have been reported on monday as "rose faces criminal charges" (sensationalism much?), it has been known the case has been "open" with the LAPD for 2 years now. hell, check the date on the letter, it was dated a week before it was even released. the accuser's lawyers were holding onto it specifically for knick's media day.

Rose’s team responded that the LAPD letter presented no new evidence and that Doe’s motion should be denied. In particular, they noted that the letter “simply repeats what the parties have known since December 2015 — that Ms. Doe went to the LAPD in December 2015 and the LAPD opened a criminal investigation at that time that has not since resulted in criminal charges.”

source: http://thewhitebronco.com/2016/09/derrick-rose-lawsuit-update-wednesday-september-28-2016/

You're absolutely right––I stand corrected. I thought it was the LA Times, and I didn't know the investigation was opened last year.

I do stand by what I said about Phil's callousness about the charges. I think it was an inappropriate time for his snarky demeanor when asked about subjects he doesn't want to talk about.

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Judge Michael Fitzgerald issued a temporary gag order barring all parties from making public statements that bash anyone related to the case, discussing testimony or revealing evidence not admissible at trial.

"I am really fed up with both of you," Fitzgerald said to the lawyers on opposing sides of the courtroom.

He said it was "particularly egregious" and "borderline unethical" that Rose’s accuser's lawyers filed paperwork earlier this week that revealed a letter from the Los Angeles Police Department confirmed a criminal investigation of Rose for the alleged sexual assault.

"That was absolutely calculated to obtain a settlement in the case," the judge said, claiming Knicks President Phil Jackson and Rose's business partners were the intended target audience for the information.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/fed-judge-derrick-rose-rape-case-orders-bickering-article-1.2811948?cid=bitly

[madvillian]

You know how sometimes you'll put something off or just not get around to doing something and then it completely comes back to bite you in the ass? This is basically what seems to have happened with Rose. If he had bought her a few things and maintained the obvious "quid pro quo" agreement with this woman she never would have taken it this far.

She's obviously money hungry and Rose is obviously a freaking moron that isn't apparently that street smart either. As I keep saying both of them look like complete idiots. She's a money and fame hungry call girl basically and Derrick has the IQ of a tree stump.

[CJackson]

You know how sometimes you'll put something off or just not get around to doing something and then it completely comes back to bite you in the ass? This is basically what seems to have happened with Rose. If he had bought her a few things and maintained the obvious "quid pro quo" agreement with this woman she never would have taken it this far.

She's obviously money hungry and Rose is obviously a freaking moron that isn't apparently that street smart either. As I keep saying both of them look like complete idiots. She's a money and fame hungry call girl basically and Derrick has the IQ of a tree stump.

Be that as it may, even a tree stump doesn't deserve to falsely accused (if he's guilty well then tough, but it doesn't appear he is)

[Bill Pidto]

I figured it out..

Jane Doe = bNo

[trophywinner]

You know how sometimes you'll put something off or just not get around to doing something and then it completely comes back to bite you in the ass? This is basically what seems to have happened with Rose. If he had bought her a few things and maintained the obvious "quid pro quo" agreement with this woman she never would have taken it this far.

She's obviously money hungry and Rose is obviously a freaking moron that isn't apparently that street smart either. As I keep saying both of them look like complete idiots. She's a money and fame hungry call girl basically and Derrick has the IQ of a tree stump.

lol, rose didn't owe her anything. there was no agreement. she was a side-chick and he treated her as such. maybe rose isn't the one who has some catching up to do.

[Flopper]

You know how sometimes you'll put something off or just not get around to doing something and then it completely comes back to bite you in the ass? This is basically what seems to have happened with Rose. If he had bought her a few things and maintained the obvious "quid pro quo" agreement with this woman she never would have taken it this far.

She's obviously money hungry and Rose is obviously a freaking moron that isn't apparently that street smart either. As I keep saying both of them look like complete idiots. She's a money and fame hungry call girl basically and Derrick has the IQ of a tree stump.

lol, rose didn't owe her anything. there was no agreement. she was a side-chick and he treated her as such. maybe rose isn't the one who has some catching up to do.

If you treat people like ****, you shouldn't be surprised when they eventually return the favor. Even if the accusations are 100% false, Derrick has no one but himself to blame for this mess.

[Bill Pidto]

You know how sometimes you'll put something off or just not get around to doing something and then it completely comes back to bite you in the ass? This is basically what seems to have happened with Rose. If he had bought her a few things and maintained the obvious "quid pro quo" agreement with this woman she never would have taken it this far.

She's obviously money hungry and Rose is obviously a freaking moron that isn't apparently that street smart either. As I keep saying both of them look like complete idiots. She's a money and fame hungry call girl basically and Derrick has the IQ of a tree stump.

lol, rose didn't owe her anything. there was no agreement. she was a side-chick and he treated her as such. maybe rose isn't the one who has some catching up to do.

If you treat people like ****, you shouldn't be surprised when they eventually return the favor. Even if the accusations are 100% false, Derrick has no one but himself to blame for this mess.

So, even if the accusations are totally false, and she's dragging his name through the mud, in public, having people call him a rapist and not only jeopardizing his money in the short-term, but also his future earning power, all for her own personal gain.... he deserves it? Why? Cuz he got freaky with some hoe one late night 3 years ago? Is that really that offensive to some of you? Should we expect all pro athletes to be totally monogamous and have sex only in the missionary position?

If and when his name is cleared, there should be no controversy surrounding D-Rose. If he didn't rape the girl, she should owe him money for forcing him to deal with this BS.

[Flopper]

lol, rose didn't owe her anything. there was no agreement. she was a side-chick and he treated her as such. maybe rose isn't the one who has some catching up to do.

If you treat people like ****, you shouldn't be surprised when they eventually return the favor. Even if the accusations are 100% false, Derrick has no one but himself to blame for this mess.

So, even if the accusations are totally false, and she's dragging his name through the mud, in public, having people call him a rapist and not only jeopardizing his money in the short-term, but also his future earning power, all for her own personal gain.... he deserves it? Why? Cuz he got freaky with some hoe one late night 3 years ago? Is that really that offensive to some of you? Should we expect all pro athletes to be totally monogamous and have sex only in the missionary position?

If and when his name is cleared, there should be no controversy surrounding D-Rose. If he didn't rape the girl, she should owe him money for forcing him to deal with this BS.

I'm not saying that he deserves to be falsely accused, but you can't deny that he put himself in this situation with poor choices on who he associated with and the activities he engaged in with them. Best case scenario is that he and his buddies consentually used her like a human fleshlight and then tossed her to the side after they got what they wanted. Kind of makes sense that she'd do something as awful as making a false rape accusation after being treated like garbage.

[moocow007]

I figured it out..

Jane Doe = bNo

[ny-n-md]

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Judge Michael Fitzgerald issued a temporary gag order barring all parties from making public statements that bash anyone related to the case, discussing testimony or revealing evidence not admissible at trial.

"I am really fed up with both of you," Fitzgerald said to the lawyers on opposing sides of the courtroom.

He said it was "particularly egregious" and "borderline unethical" that Rose’s accuser's lawyers filed paperwork earlier this week that revealed a letter from the Los Angeles Police Department confirmed a criminal investigation of Rose for the alleged sexual assault.

"That was absolutely calculated to obtain a settlement in the case," the judge said, claiming Knicks President Phil Jackson and Rose's business partners were the intended target audience for the information.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/fed-judge-derrick-rose-rape-case-orders-bickering-article-1.2811948?cid=bitly

"That was absolutely calculated to obtain a settlement in the case," the judge said, claiming Knicks President Phil Jackson and Rose's business partners were the intended target audience for the information.

But lawyer Waukeen McCoy denied his client, a 30-year-old California woman who claims Rose raped her in 2013, is trying to force a payday.

"We don't care about settlement in this case. We want justice," McCoy told the judge. "We're prepared to go to trial."




Does this not sound like a money grab? If you want justice why go to civil court and sue for $20M? Why not pursue a criminal case in court for the sake of justice? I'm not understanding their approach.

[Ugly Duckling]

Guys, I have an important announcement. I went to college with D-Rose's accuser's attorney. He had absolutely no morality, ethics or conscience. Take it for what it's worth. I just realized this when reading an article

[DaKnicksAreBack]

Guys, I have an important announcement. I went to college with D-Rose's accuser's attorney. He had absolutely no morality, ethics or conscience. Take it for what it's worth. I just realized this when reading an article

An attorney with poor morals, color me supprised.

[Ugly Duckling]

Guys, I have an important announcement. I went to college with D-Rose's accuser's attorney. He had absolutely no morality, ethics or conscience. Take it for what it's worth. I just realized this when reading an article

An attorney with poor morals, color me supprised.

I just got this feeling when I saw his name