2018/2019 NBA Trade/Wishing Well Thread (Cont.)

[HarthorneWingo]

Doncic wants to come to NY.

Based on what intel?

Wingodamus

[nykballa2k4]

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Anyone want him?

Lol so in this day and age of the stretch 4/3 point shooting 5, Noahs people are pimping this video of a slimmed down version of him, still living in the paint. Yeah, this doesn't help that contract look any more attractive.

Not gonna lie, it looked like he was about to shank a few of those...

[nykballa2k4]

I was thinking 4 years because he could be had at a bargain deal at this juncture because of how things played out last season for him in Dallas.

If the Knicks sign him to a 1 year deal and he ends up having a top notch season (which is possible given he'll have ample minutes to play,) and his next contract could be exponentially higher than what we'd originally sign him for this offseason.

It's obviously a bit of a gamble but based off his age and defensive potential, I'd roll the dice on that one. Maybe something like 4 years and 60-68 million?

So you'd be paying this kid $15-$17 mil per year for 4 years with the chance of him being a bust or if not a bust then only a defender. I could buy into 3 years at a much lower cost then $15-$17 per and i really don't see a team giving him that much but ya never know i guess. If we did sign him to a one year prove yourself deal and he was showing out then he could also be really good trade bait for us around the trade deadline. I like Noel and his fit playing next to KP but that much money for 4 years scares the shyt out of me and if we got it wrong it would be a huge setback for our rebuild ala J.Noah.

He's not going to bust out (barring injuries.) And we'd be paying for a defensive minded player to patrol the 4 and 5. I don't expect his offense to evolve much at this stage in his career- he'd be here for defensive and rebounding purposes. His age range makes him a viable target IMO.

If we could lock him in at 15 million per year, I think it would be worth it. This is obviously centered around Kanter opting out. Noah comes off the books I believe the following year (as does Lee?) so we'd be going into the the next offseason with a Frank-KP-Noel-9th pick-next year lotto as our core for the future.

There is no reason to pay that much... The current market for b/u centers is basically dry. If a deal like that were available for Noel, then Kanter WOULD opt out. Money ain't there...

Realistically, if we want him we would have to be getting rid of Kanter via trade/buy out.

[newyorker4ever]

So you'd be paying this kid $15-$17 mil per year for 4 years with the chance of him being a bust or if not a bust then only a defender. I could buy into 3 years at a much lower cost then $15-$17 per and i really don't see a team giving him that much but ya never know i guess. If we did sign him to a one year prove yourself deal and he was showing out then he could also be really good trade bait for us around the trade deadline. I like Noel and his fit playing next to KP but that much money for 4 years scares the shyt out of me and if we got it wrong it would be a huge setback for our rebuild ala J.Noah.

He's not going to bust out (barring injuries.) And we'd be paying for a defensive minded player to patrol the 4 and 5. I don't expect his offense to evolve much at this stage in his career- he'd be here for defensive and rebounding purposes. His age range makes him a viable target IMO.

If we could lock him in at 15 million per year, I think it would be worth it. This is obviously centered around Kanter opting out. Noah comes off the books I believe the following year (as does Lee?) so we'd be going into the the next offseason with a Frank-KP-Noel-9th pick-next year lotto as our core for the future.

There is no reason to pay that much... The current market for b/u centers is basically dry. If a deal like that were available for Noel, then Kanter WOULD opt out. Money ain't there...

Realistically, if we want him we would have to be getting rid of Kanter via trade/buy out.

I heard yesterday that Kanter has said he's not making his decision to opt in or out before the draft which hurts us if we wanted to make any significant trades before or during the draft. He has until the 29th to make his decision.

[Kampuchea]

Can we trade Noah for Deng? Or is that a downgrade for us?

Just rather have an overpay at a position that is not Center.

[Knox]

Can we trade Noah for Deng? Or is that a downgrade for us?

Just rather have an overpay at a position that is not Center.

We should trade for Ball because his value is crazy low. He will eventually improve his shot and dealing with his Dad will get easier as he matures. Three .. four years from now things with his Pops won’t be like they are right now. Lonzo is a great passer defender and rebounder for his position. We can get great value at a low price for him.

[newyorker4ever]

Can we trade Noah for Deng? Or is that a downgrade for us?

Just rather have an overpay at a position that is not Center.

We should trade for Ball because his value is crazy low. He will eventually improve his shot and dealing with his Dad will get easier as he matures. Three .. four years from now things with his Pops won’t be like they are right now. Lonzo is a great passer defender and rebounder for his position. We can get great value at a low price for him.

I don't agree. I don't see why his value would be so low and why any team would get him cheap. I think his value is still very high cause everything but his shooting was pretty damn good especially his passing and court vision and his shooting was getting better towards the end of the year.

[Kampuchea]

Nobody is getting Ball for a straight salary dump. Salary dump and our pick? Maybe

[Knox]

Can we trade Noah for Deng? Or is that a downgrade for us?

Just rather have an overpay at a position that is not Center.

We should trade for Ball because his value is crazy low. He will eventually improve his shot and dealing with his Dad will get easier as he matures. Three .. four years from now things with his Pops won’t be like they are right now. Lonzo is a great passer defender and rebounder for his position. We can get great value at a low price for him.

I don't agree. I don't see why his value would be so low and why any team would get him cheap. I think his value is still very high cause everything but his shooting was pretty damn good especially his passing and court vision and his shooting was getting better towards the end of the year.

It appears that the Kyle Kuzma dis track was not well received and if they land Lebron they will want to move him as soon as possible. I still have the belief that he will be out like Deangello was last season. The other possibility was helping them facilitate a trade for Kawhi Leonard by being the third team involved helping the Spurs and lakers out.

[Juco24]

David Aldridge has an interesting mock
Ayton
Doncic
Bagley
Trae - ?????
JJJ
Sexton - ?!?!?
Bamba
Carter
Porter to the Knicks

[newyorker4ever]

We should trade for Ball because his value is crazy low. He will eventually improve his shot and dealing with his Dad will get easier as he matures. Three .. four years from now things with his Pops won’t be like they are right now. Lonzo is a great passer defender and rebounder for his position. We can get great value at a low price for him.

I don't agree. I don't see why his value would be so low and why any team would get him cheap. I think his value is still very high cause everything but his shooting was pretty damn good especially his passing and court vision and his shooting was getting better towards the end of the year.

It appears that the Kyle Kuzma dis track was not well received and if they land Lebron they will want to move him as soon as possible. I still have the belief that he will be out like Deangello was last season. The other possibility was helping them facilitate a trade for Kawhi Leonard by being the third team involved helping the Spurs and lakers out.

I'm still not seeing where you're getting that his value is so low right now??

[Knox]

I don't agree. I don't see why his value would be so low and why any team would get him cheap. I think his value is still very high cause everything but his shooting was pretty damn good especially his passing and court vision and his shooting was getting better towards the end of the year.

It appears that the Kyle Kuzma dis track was not well received and if they land Lebron they will want to move him as soon as possible. I still have the belief that he will be out like Deangello was last season. The other possibility was helping them facilitate a trade for Kawhi Leonard by being the third team involved helping the Spurs and lakers out.

I'm still not seeing where you're getting that his value is so low right now??

Spurs don't want him in a deal for Kawhi
Lebron wants him traded if he comes
Management is upset about his Kyle Kuzma Dis Track because it inhibits their ability to land Lebron
People don't want to deal with Lavar

[Spree2Houston]

If we're interested in Knox because he has a higher ''upside'' then I would rather take SGA in terms of taking player for his upside. We're heading in the era of position-less basketball where we will no longer refer to the 2 guards as PG and SG but rather Gaurd A and Gaurd B. A back-court combination of SGA/Frank would be dynamite. A elite-defending back court in an era where its guard driven and neither are slouches on the offensive end.

[newyorker4ever]

It appears that the Kyle Kuzma dis track was not well received and if they land Lebron they will want to move him as soon as possible. I still have the belief that he will be out like Deangello was last season. The other possibility was helping them facilitate a trade for Kawhi Leonard by being the third team involved helping the Spurs and lakers out.

I'm still not seeing where you're getting that his value is so low right now??

Spurs don't want him in a deal for Kawhi
Lebron wants him traded if he comes
Management is upset about his Kyle Kuzma Dis Track because it inhibits their ability to land Lebron
People don't want to deal with Lavar

He doesn't need to be in the lakers trade if that trade happens cause they have Kuzma, B.Ingram, J.Hart and draft picks.
Saying Lebron wants him traded is just you going off of some rumor you heard so don't know if true.
Kuzma will be gone in the trade so management won't have to qorry about the dissing anymore.
Hellz no nobody wants to deal with Lavar and neither does Knicks fans....i know i don't.

[Knox]

I'm still not seeing where you're getting that his value is so low right now??

Spurs don't want him in a deal for Kawhi
Lebron wants him traded if he comes
Management is upset about his Kyle Kuzma Dis Track because it inhibits their ability to land Lebron
People don't want to deal with Lavar

He doesn't need to be in the lakers trade if that trade happens cause they have Kuzma, B.Ingram, J.Hart and draft picks.
Saying Lebron wants him traded is just you going off of some rumor you heard so don't know if true.
Kuzma will be gone in the trade so management won't have to qorry about the dissing anymore.
Hellz no nobody wants to deal with Lavar and neither does Knicks fans....i know i don't.

You are going off the same so called rumors assuming that Kuzma is getting moved as well lol
This is the forums we do this all day. Knicks need talent

[spree8]

I’m still waiting for Thibs’ answer to a Wiggins-Noah deal. Or maybe he just sobered up.

[Marty McFly]

Can we trade Noah for Deng? Or is that a downgrade for us?

Just rather have an overpay at a position that is not Center.

We should trade for Ball because his value is crazy low. He will eventually improve his shot and dealing with his Dad will get easier as he matures. Three .. four years from now things with his Pops won’t be like they are right now. Lonzo is a great passer defender and rebounder for his position. We can get great value at a low price for him.

i have my doubts about him improving that shot. but he does every thing else so well. he's like 95% ben simmons.

lavar vs dolan though. jesus christ.

[BBALLER4FR]

Can we trade Noah for Deng? Or is that a downgrade for us?

Just rather have an overpay at a position that is not Center.

We should trade for Ball because his value is crazy low. He will eventually improve his shot and dealing with his Dad will get easier as he matures. Three .. four years from now things with his Pops won’t be like they are right now. Lonzo is a great passer defender and rebounder for his position. We can get great value at a low price for him.

i have my doubts about him improving that shot. but he does every thing else so well. he's like 95% ben simmons.

lavar vs dolan though. jesus christ.

Been saying that. Nobody listening. In fact, it would be the entire Ball family since Lavar says his boys are a package deal. Just sayin'.

[WargamesX]

quick question is there a way for the knicks to add both Kawhi and Kyrie in 2019? Like does waiving Noah, and letting Enes, LT, Muediay, and Ron expire create enough space?

[ForzaMetro]

Mock trade via ESPN:
Knicks get: Kyrie Irving and No. 27
Celtics get: Kristaps Porzingis and Joakim Noah
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Would anyone do it?