[Knicks' Town Hall] - Coach, Perry & Mills Live! (7PM EST 9/17/18)

[HarthorneWingo]

how are there no silly faces of Kanter as a Knick?

If I knew how to do that shyt, I would.

I think Enes was speaking Turkish there. Don't fck with Enes when he's starts speaking Turkish.

[2010]

Who will be the leader?

Fiz: Leaders will emerge

I love that Fiz told Kevin to take care of one thing. Be a leader for Mitch since he missed school. Then he text Fiz saying they just came from the gym together. Gotta love the example Fiz is setting.

Also, don't forget Knox is a rook but he posted an IG snap making sure he tailed Frank home to make sure his "son" got home safe.

[2010]

the whole crutches thing is sort of a gimmick. if you really couldn't walk without crutches, you could never play basketball. and if a player any of use cared about in the least did that during a meaningless season we would be screaming bloody hell at management for even allowing it.

thats kanter though, he has developed a great image to fans. A guy that works hard, talks about NY as being his home. He endears himself to the fans through the media...but realistically he aint a keeper.

it's all very calculated and obvious....and he certainly aint

So what you tryna say? That he lowkey in a terrorist cell?

Spoiler:

JUST KIDDING

[2010]

Sounds like they couldn't find a deal for Lee either...

Spoiler:

[Capn'O]

Sounds like they couldn't find a deal for Lee either...

Spoiler:

how could I forget!

[2010]

Ironic thing is this. For all the people who don't want us to give a dude like Mario a chance to earn a long-term deal betting on his development. Don't forget that at one point Jimmy Butler was thought of as a role player who wasn't highly touted offensively. Yet he developed his offensive repertoire and worked his tail off and turned himself into a max contract caliber player. Point is, don't be so quick to scoff at in-house development. I can actually see a dude like Mario turning into a prime Hedo Turkoglu or better if he puts in the work. That is a darn good player at a discount when you factor in he wouldn't command $30 million+ like Jimmy and with way less mileage.

[Newyorknick94]

Ironic thing is this. For all the people who don't want us to give a dude like Mario a chance to earn a long-term deal betting on his development. Don't forget that at one point Jimmy Butler was thought of as a role player who wasn't highly touted offensively. Yet he developed his offensive repertoire and worked his tail off and turned himself into a max contract caliber player. Point is, don't be so quick to scoff at in-house development. I can actually see a dude like Mario turning into a prime Hedo Turkoglu or better if he puts in the work. That is a darn good player at a discount when you factor in he wouldn't command $30 million+ like Jimmy and with way less mileage.

Exactly it doesn’t have to be Mario if any one of Burke/Mudiay/Mario/Vonleh turn into a player like Tyrkoglu it was well worth giving them all a chance.

[WargamesX]

Ironic thing is this. For all the people who don't want us to give a dude like Mario a chance to earn a long-term deal betting on his development. Don't forget that at one point Jimmy Butler was thought of as a role player who wasn't highly touted offensively. Yet he developed his offensive repertoire and worked his tail off and turned himself into a max contract caliber player. Point is, don't be so quick to scoff at in-house development. I can actually see a dude like Mario turning into a prime Hedo Turkoglu or better if he puts in the work. That is a darn good player at a discount when you factor in he wouldn't command $30 million+ like Jimmy and with way less mileage.

Also keeping some of our own developed players doesn't mean the knicks cant add more significant pieces to the roster. There is a decent RFA/UFA market for non max players with potential like Malcolm Brogdon, Rondae Hollis Jefferson, Kelly Oubre, Terry Rozier, Justise Winslow, and Julius Randle. The knicks could add at least 1 maybe even two of those guys and have a lot more depth going forward.

[Capn'O]

Ironic thing is this. For all the people who don't want us to give a dude like Mario a chance to earn a long-term deal betting on his development. Don't forget that at one point Jimmy Butler was thought of as a role player who wasn't highly touted offensively. Yet he developed his offensive repertoire and worked his tail off and turned himself into a max contract caliber player. Point is, don't be so quick to scoff at in-house development. I can actually see a dude like Mario turning into a prime Hedo Turkoglu or better if he puts in the work. That is a darn good player at a discount when you factor in he wouldn't command $30 million+ like Jimmy and with way less mileage.

Yes, exactly. Which is why you don't risk any long term pieces to clear the cap. Make good deals if and as they come. As much as I'd like to see Lee moved, I'd rather us sit on his deal than blow a load trying to dump him.

[MP4LIFE]

Ironic thing is this. For all the people who don't want us to give a dude like Mario a chance to earn a long-term deal betting on his development. Don't forget that at one point Jimmy Butler was thought of as a role player who wasn't highly touted offensively. Yet he developed his offensive repertoire and worked his tail off and turned himself into a max contract caliber player. Point is, don't be so quick to scoff at in-house development. I can actually see a dude like Mario turning into a prime Hedo Turkoglu or better if he puts in the work. That is a darn good player at a discount when you factor in he wouldn't command $30 million+ like Jimmy and with way less mileage.

Yes, exactly. Which is why you don't risk any long term pieces to clear the cap. Make good deals if and as they come. As much as I'd like to see Lee moved, I'd rather us sit on his deal than blow a load trying to dump him.

I don't think you need to trade any assets to get rid of Lee.

I assume a team will take him for an expiring deal and a 2nd rounder.

[blueNorange]

That's what I got. They'd consider bringing him back at the right price point.

Same with Hezonja. They spoke about both guys in the same context.

"These guys want to prove that they can be here long term"

Correct me if I'm wrong, but they didn't bring up Mudiay at all in that context. Sounds like they weren't impressed.

they also didn't bring up that scrub trey burke's name either until someone(3tohead?) shouted his name from the crowd.

i just can't see myself see fizdale preaching what he preaches, and then liking trey burke. dude is small and plays zero defense, 2 things fizdale doesn't like.

if thj/lee are small, then burke must be a prepubescent kid.

[Capn'O]

Ironic thing is this. For all the people who don't want us to give a dude like Mario a chance to earn a long-term deal betting on his development. Don't forget that at one point Jimmy Butler was thought of as a role player who wasn't highly touted offensively. Yet he developed his offensive repertoire and worked his tail off and turned himself into a max contract caliber player. Point is, don't be so quick to scoff at in-house development. I can actually see a dude like Mario turning into a prime Hedo Turkoglu or better if he puts in the work. That is a darn good player at a discount when you factor in he wouldn't command $30 million+ like Jimmy and with way less mileage.

Yes, exactly. Which is why you don't risk any long term pieces to clear the cap. Make good deals if and as they come. As much as I'd like to see Lee moved, I'd rather us sit on his deal than blow a load trying to dump him.

I don't think you need to trade any assets to get rid of Lee.

I assume a team will take him for an expiring deal and a 2nd rounder.

In theory, yes, though I don't know what teams have that combo plus a need for him. Maybe expiring + longer deal + 2nd and the Knicks add filler.

[Deeeez Knicks]

Ironic thing is this. For all the people who don't want us to give a dude like Mario a chance to earn a long-term deal betting on his development. Don't forget that at one point Jimmy Butler was thought of as a role player who wasn't highly touted offensively. Yet he developed his offensive repertoire and worked his tail off and turned himself into a max contract caliber player. Point is, don't be so quick to scoff at in-house development. I can actually see a dude like Mario turning into a prime Hedo Turkoglu or better if he puts in the work. That is a darn good player at a discount when you factor in he wouldn't command $30 million+ like Jimmy and with way less mileage.

Yes, exactly. Which is why you don't risk any long term pieces to clear the cap. Make good deals if and as they come. As much as I'd like to see Lee moved, I'd rather us sit on his deal than blow a load trying to dump him.

Its also why I am not crazy about stretching Noah now. Even without stretching him, we would have $23+mil in cap space and could sign some smaller contracts or 1 year deals. Gives us an extra $6mil to play with in future years. Then could save for a max in 2020-2022.

[blueNorange]

how are there no silly faces of Kanter as a Knick?

If I knew how to do that shyt, I would.

could you believe some crapped on kanter for doing that?

[Capn'O]

Ironic thing is this. For all the people who don't want us to give a dude like Mario a chance to earn a long-term deal betting on his development. Don't forget that at one point Jimmy Butler was thought of as a role player who wasn't highly touted offensively. Yet he developed his offensive repertoire and worked his tail off and turned himself into a max contract caliber player. Point is, don't be so quick to scoff at in-house development. I can actually see a dude like Mario turning into a prime Hedo Turkoglu or better if he puts in the work. That is a darn good player at a discount when you factor in he wouldn't command $30 million+ like Jimmy and with way less mileage.

Yes, exactly. Which is why you don't risk any long term pieces to clear the cap. Make good deals if and as they come. As much as I'd like to see Lee moved, I'd rather us sit on his deal than blow a load trying to dump him.

Its also why I am not crazy about stretching Noah now. Even without stretching him, we would have $23+mil in cap space and could sign some smaller contracts or 1 year deals. Gives us an extra $6mil to play with in future years. Then could save for a max in 2020-2022.

I'm really not keen on having his contract on the books for many years into the future either if we don't absolutely need to.

[2010]

Ironic thing is this. For all the people who don't want us to give a dude like Mario a chance to earn a long-term deal betting on his development. Don't forget that at one point Jimmy Butler was thought of as a role player who wasn't highly touted offensively. Yet he developed his offensive repertoire and worked his tail off and turned himself into a max contract caliber player. Point is, don't be so quick to scoff at in-house development. I can actually see a dude like Mario turning into a prime Hedo Turkoglu or better if he puts in the work. That is a darn good player at a discount when you factor in he wouldn't command $30 million+ like Jimmy and with way less mileage.

Yes, exactly. Which is why you don't risk any long term pieces to clear the cap. Make good deals if and as they come. As much as I'd like to see Lee moved, I'd rather us sit on his deal than blow a load trying to dump him.

I don't think you need to trade any assets to get rid of Lee.

I assume a team will take him for an expiring deal and a 2nd rounder.

A 2nd is an asset. Don't forget we got Mitch with a 2nd.

[HarthorneWingo]

If I knew how to do that shyt, I would.

could you believe some crapped on kanter for doing that?

Who did that?

[shtolky]

Yes, exactly. Which is why you don't risk any long term pieces to clear the cap. Make good deals if and as they come. As much as I'd like to see Lee moved, I'd rather us sit on his deal than blow a load trying to dump him.

I don't think you need to trade any assets to get rid of Lee.

I assume a team will take him for an expiring deal and a 2nd rounder.

A 2nd is an asset. Don't forget we got Mitch with a 2nd.

If that deal was out there, we'd already have taken it. What team thinks Courtney Lee is enough of a difference maker to take on two years of salary at age 33?

[HarthorneWingo]

I don't think you need to trade any assets to get rid of Lee.

I assume a team will take him for an expiring deal and a 2nd rounder.

A 2nd is an asset. Don't forget we got Mitch with a 2nd.

If that deal was out there, we'd already have taken it. What team thinks Courtney Lee is enough of a difference maker to take on two years of salary at age 33?

Lee just came off his best season. He hits 3s at a 40%+ clip, plays defense, doesn't ball hog. He's a nice piece to a team in the hunt.

[F N 11]

We threw in Lee's name bc he is a pro and still on the team.