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2019 Offseason Speculation Thread - Something gonna happen but will you like it?

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Re: 2019 Offseason Speculation Thread - Something gonna happen but will you like it? 

Post#161 » by Besart19 » Sun Jun 2, 2019 3:23 pm

Smith and protected 1st for Bamba

Both Durant and Butler take 2-3M less so we can resign both Mario and Vonleh, while saving the MLE for a veteran PG like Rondo, Rubio or Collison

Frank / Rondo / Allen
Barrett / Trier / Mario
Butler / Dotson / Melo
Durant / Knox / Vonleh
Mitch / Bamba / Kornet
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Post#163 » by Thugger HBC » Sun Jun 2, 2019 3:29 pm

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Thugger HBC wrote:I do think Perry wants a blend of a competitive team now that also has a chance to grow into a longer lasting one.

The two max slots are the now competitive portion. I don't think they'll keep all the young guys, so a portion of that can be morphed into another productive piece for winning, and still have the future portion rolling forward.

that's the approach I think they will be taking.

So basically what Phil attempted to do...but with logic and not half-assing.


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Re: 2019 Offseason Speculation Thread - Something gonna happen but will you like it? 

Post#164 » by Jeffrey » Sun Jun 2, 2019 3:36 pm

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HerSports85 wrote:If Brooklyn plan on keeping DLO and want to sign Kyrie, they’ll have to trade Crabbe without taking on salary which may require a first rd pick. That leaves them with only 1 frp ... that’s not enough for an AD trade.

Here’s my question, someone help me out. DLO cap hold is 21 mil but if someone offers him a contract right out the gate, the nets have 3 days to match right?

So will signing DLO first stop then from signing any max FA? Unless they trade away some of their core players?

It would surprise me if someone offered him a deal right out the gate, too many other top end players to recruit first. strange things happen of course, and yes they'd be on the clock to match. I do however think quite a few of these guys will commit rather early.

An AD trade isn't realistic for Brooklyn as they don't truly have the pieces even now to get it done.

I think the RFA match is 48 hours now.


Not if you're the Phoenix Suns who has no shot at top tier FAs. May as well go straight after guys like Goran Dragic, DLo, Rubio etc.
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Post#165 » by Thugger HBC » Sun Jun 2, 2019 3:40 pm

Jeffrey wrote:
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HerSports85 wrote:If Brooklyn plan on keeping DLO and want to sign Kyrie, they’ll have to trade Crabbe without taking on salary which may require a first rd pick. That leaves them with only 1 frp ... that’s not enough for an AD trade.

Here’s my question, someone help me out. DLO cap hold is 21 mil but if someone offers him a contract right out the gate, the nets have 3 days to match right?

So will signing DLO first stop then from signing any max FA? Unless they trade away some of their core players?

It would surprise me if someone offered him a deal right out the gate, too many other top end players to recruit first. strange things happen of course, and yes they'd be on the clock to match. I do however think quite a few of these guys will commit rather early.

An AD trade isn't realistic for Brooklyn as they don't truly have the pieces even now to get it done.

I think the RFA match is 48 hours now.


Not if you're the Phoenix Suns who has no shot at top tier FAs. May as well go straight after guys like Goran Dragic, DLo, Rubio etc.

Lower tiers players usually have to wait. I don't see that changing. A team like Phx would be better served going after brogdon than D- Russ, but that's a different discussion.
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Post#166 » by Jeffrey » Sun Jun 2, 2019 3:42 pm

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Thugger HBC wrote:It would surprise me if someone offered him a deal right out the gate, too many other top end players to recruit first. strange things happen of course, and yes they'd be on the clock to match. I do however think quite a few of these guys will commit rather early.

An AD trade isn't realistic for Brooklyn as they don't truly have the pieces even now to get it done.

I think the RFA match is 48 hours now.


Not if you're the Phoenix Suns who has no shot at top tier FAs. May as well go straight after guys like Goran Dragic, DLo, Rubio etc.

Lower tiers players usually have to wait. I don't see that changing. A team like Phx would be better served going after brogdon than D- Russ, but that's a different discussion.


DLo isn't a lower tier guy. He will get a max somewhere just like Tobias, Middleton and others.

If I'm a team that has no chance with the big boys, I'm offering the 2nd tier max guys a contract at 6:01pm.
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Post#167 » by Thugger HBC » Sun Jun 2, 2019 3:47 pm

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Not if you're the Phoenix Suns who has no shot at top tier FAs. May as well go straight after guys like Goran Dragic, DLo, Rubio etc.

Lower tiers players usually have to wait. I don't see that changing. A team like Phx would be better served going after brogdon than D- Russ, but that's a different discussion.


DLo isn't a lower tier guy. He will get a max somewhere just like Tobias, Middleton and others.

If I'm a team that has no chance with the big boys, I'm offering the 2nd tier max guys a contract at 6:01pm.

He's lower when compared to Durant, Kawhi, Kyrie types. Sometimes these guys have to wait not just for signings of the bigger guys, but also trade possibilities and such. also gotta to remember these guys share same agents. The lower tiers usually wait for a variety of reasons.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Speculation Thread - Something gonna happen but will you like it? 

Post#168 » by spree2kawhi » Sun Jun 2, 2019 3:55 pm

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robillionaire wrote:I actually think having durant around could be good for player development as long as he keeps a positive attitude if we aren't winning and doesn't act like lebron try to trade the whole team and pout at the end of the bench. As long as we can find some pass first PG to distribute the ball and not someone like mudiay

But where in the world could the Knicks possibly find someone like that?


Rondo, Rubio, Jose Calderon idk

Frank can play point guard with Jimmy, KD, Knox and Mitch. No doubt. Trade Smith and some picks for AD and it's a legit defensive juggernaut. That's what's most important to me. Even without AD he's already a better fit than Mudiay or Smith Jr. He'll pass and play terrific defense without fouling. He won't need too much help on that end and can switch on any position. I'd prefer tall players as role players and Frank is that. No need to go after Rubio or Rondo, they're small, not getting faster and they can't shoot. I understand what they bring and I'd like them here, but I wouldn't want to reach in order to get them.
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Post#169 » by moocow007 » Sun Jun 2, 2019 4:17 pm

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Post#170 » by Fury » Sun Jun 2, 2019 4:25 pm

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Post#171 » by ForzaMetro » Sun Jun 2, 2019 4:40 pm

Besart19 wrote:Smith and protected 1st for Bamba

Both Durant and Butler take 2-3M less so we can resign both Mario and Vonleh, while saving the MLE for a veteran PG like Rondo, Rubio or Collison

Frank / Rondo / Allen
Barrett / Trier / Mario
Butler / Dotson / Melo
Durant / Knox / Vonleh
Mitch / Bamba / Kornet


I’d be embarrassed to ask the best player in the world to take less than the max so we could fit two dudes who wouldn’t even be in the rotation. Durant - or anyone else - is already leaving money on the table just by picking NY over his current team.
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Post#172 » by malik959 » Sun Jun 2, 2019 4:43 pm

Find a way to fit Vonleh

Frank/DSJ
Butler/D.Dot
KD/Trier
Vonleh/ Knox
Mitch/ K. O'Quinn

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Post#173 » by K_ick_God » Sun Jun 2, 2019 4:48 pm

Randle is really a tough and talented piece if we can add him to our frontcourt rotation.
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Post#174 » by Tron Carter » Sun Jun 2, 2019 4:55 pm

KnicksGod wrote:Randle is really a tough and talented piece if we can add him to our frontcourt rotation.


we should probably avoid bigs who can’t play defense or stretch the floor
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Post#175 » by Jose7 » Sun Jun 2, 2019 4:56 pm

KnicksGod wrote:Randle is really a tough and talented piece if we can add him to our frontcourt rotation.



Yesssss!!!!

Dsj - frank - Kadeem
Barrett - trier
Knox - dot
Randle
Mitch

Legooooooo

I ain’t counting on no FAs but he’s someone I’d rather commit to than Tobias jimmy etc
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Post#176 » by iLLmatic860 » Sun Jun 2, 2019 4:56 pm

Looks like Celtics fans are getting salty and spreading fake Kyrie to Knicks or Nets rumors on Twitter and real gm :lol:
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Post#177 » by Tron Carter » Sun Jun 2, 2019 4:58 pm

Jose7 wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:Randle is really a tough and talented piece if we can add him to our frontcourt rotation.



Yesssss!!!!

Dsj - frank - Kadeem
Barrett - trier
Knox - dot
Randle
Mitch

Legooooooo

I ain’t counting on no FAs but he’s someone I’d rather commit to than Tobias jimmy etc


y’all really don’t care about 3 point shooting do you?
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Post#178 » by robillionaire » Sun Jun 2, 2019 4:59 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:But where in the world could the Knicks possibly find someone like that?


Rondo, Rubio, Jose Calderon idk

Frank can play point guard with Jimmy, KD, Knox and Mitch. No doubt. Trade Smith and some picks for AD and it's a legit defensive juggernaut. That's what's most important to me. Even without AD he's already a better fit than Mudiay or Smith Jr. He'll pass and play terrific defense without fouling. He won't need too much help on that end and can switch on any position. I'd prefer tall players as role players and Frank is that. No need to go after Rubio or Rondo, they're small, not getting faster and they can't shoot. I understand what they bring and I'd like them here, but I wouldn't want to reach in order to get them.


That would be great but I was just talking about in a scenario where Durant comes and we don't get AD or get any good free agents so no Kyrie or Butler or any of those guys
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Post#179 » by robillionaire » Sun Jun 2, 2019 5:02 pm

Tron Carter wrote:
Jose7 wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:Randle is really a tough and talented piece if we can add him to our frontcourt rotation.



Yesssss!!!!

Dsj - frank - Kadeem
Barrett - trier
Knox - dot
Randle
Mitch

Legooooooo

I ain’t counting on no FAs but he’s someone I’d rather commit to than Tobias jimmy etc


y’all really don’t care about 3 point shooting do you?


Mitch got it covered
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Post#180 » by Tron Carter » Sun Jun 2, 2019 5:12 pm

robillionaire wrote:
Tron Carter wrote:
Jose7 wrote:

Yesssss!!!!

Dsj - frank - Kadeem
Barrett - trier
Knox - dot
Randle
Mitch

Legooooooo

I ain’t counting on no FAs but he’s someone I’d rather commit to than Tobias jimmy etc


y’all really don’t care about 3 point shooting do you?


Mitch got it covered


he’ll have to. or RJ will have nightmare flashbacks of Duke’s floor spacing.
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