PG: Knicks-Thunder

[mpharris36]

I cant stand watching Elf, he's in Duhon territory for me...both of em have times where they can contribute but overall just gtfo

duhon actually passed the ball to his teammates.

[Jimmit79]

We need to show promise but miss playoffs at the same time

We really could use a top 3 pick big time

Can’t have both

Knicks make playoffs Dallas or Clipper win top 5 pick it's possible it's not 0%

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[god shammgod]

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you're wrong, he's ruining the team. rj keeping us in it with his 21 percent from 3.

[3toheadmelo]

ehhh he was ok. A couple garbage time baskets. He got into early foul trouble and we missed his production. I don't think he was engaged defensively. He looked slow all night (can't blame him) he is playing way to many minutes.

I just wouldn't classify as a "good" game. He was ok.

18/12/7 is good. He would’ve had another triple double if guys could hit their 3’s. Randle wasn’t why we lost. It was our guards.

Randle dominating the ball, and making slashers become shooters is part of why our offense sucks and you know it deep down inside.

Nah you bugging. RJ has been slashing to the rim and he can’t hit **** at the rim. Same for Payton. Missing layups and jumpers. Just awful

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Do you watch the hornets? Devonte Graham cripples the charlotte offense. He shoots 13 times a game and makes 26% of his shots

The Hornets make 3 more threes per game than us


And funny enough, the Hornets have a 4 out 1 in team, we have a 3 out 2 in team

we have a 3 out 2?

more like a 0 out 5 team

Yes, it's still 3 out and 2 in, regardless of whether or not they can shoot.

You and I will never agree about Mitch, he's an awful rebounder for his size too, but that's never mentioned. If you replaced Randle or Mitch with a floor spacer, our offense would improve, it's that simple.

[2010]

I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again. I don’t like any lineup with Randle at C. We just lose all rim protection and revert back to being the Knicks of the past 20 years. We need Mitch or another rim protector (Noel or acquire one) in at all times. We are not a good enough shooting team to make up for giving up points with a wide open paint.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

18/12/7 is good. He would’ve had another triple double if guys could hit their 3’s. Randle wasn’t why we lost. It was our guards.

Randle dominating the ball, and making slashers become shooters is part of why our offense sucks and you know it deep down inside.

Nah you bugging. RJ has been slashing to the rim and he can’t hit **** at the rim. Same for Payton. Missing layups and jumpers. Just awful

RJ is shooting 58% at the rim.

Randle will always get his numbers, it's just the nature of dominating the ball.

[Jimmit79]

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you're wrong, he's ruining the team. rj keeping us in it with his 21 percent from 3.

RJ is only 20 so 21 percent is improvement once he turns 50 it will be 51% from 3 point range.

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[KnicksChamps]

ehhh he was ok. A couple garbage time baskets. He got into early foul trouble and we missed his production. I don't think he was engaged defensively. He looked slow all night (can't blame him) he is playing way to many minutes.

I just wouldn't classify as a "good" game. He was ok.

18/12/7 is good. He would’ve had another triple double if guys could hit their 3’s. Randle wasn’t why we lost. It was our guards.

I never said he was the reason we lost. I just wouldn't classify it as a good game. He has played games where he was 5-16 from the floor which I thought he was more effective. He was ISO'ing a bit more tonight and like I said he wasn't really engaged defensively.

He was far down the list of players to blame tonight though.

Agreed. I know we've been spoiled by his insane production so far, and that may slightly skew our perception of his performance tonight, but that's exactly it - we've seen his capability to REALLY run the offense - and that was missing tonight due to several things. The only thing I would fault him for is the increased ISO ball today (shots fell in the 3rd...) but I didn't quite feel that sense of pride/confidence when he had the ball today.

[god shammgod]

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you're wrong, he's ruining the team. rj keeping us in it with his 21 percent from 3.

RJ is only 20 so 21 percent is improvement once he turns 50 it will be 51% from 3 point range.

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that only it works if you go up though. he was at 32 percent last year.

[3toheadmelo]

Randle dominating the ball, and making slashers become shooters is part of why our offense sucks and you know it deep down inside.

Nah you bugging. RJ has been slashing to the rim and he can’t hit **** at the rim. Same for Payton. Missing layups and jumpers. Just awful

RJ is shooting 58% at the rim.

Randle will always get his numbers, it's just the nature of dominating the ball.

RJ sure didn’t shoot 58% at the rim tonight

[KnicksChamps]

I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again. I don’t like any lineup with Randle at C. We just lose all rim protection and revert back to being the Knicks of the past 20 years. We need Mitch or another rim protector (Noel or acquire one) in at all times. We are not a good enough shooting team to make up for giving up points with a wide open paint.

Yup. Entire 4th quarter was a prime example. Sure, he can guard a 5 in the post and do what he's assigned to do, but at what cost? Bums driving through the center of the paint for an uncontested dunk?

There was no excuse for not having Mitch/Noel in the game for all 48 minutes tonight. I hope Thibs realized this strategy simply will not work with our current lineup, and never tries it again.

[mpharris36]

The Hornets make 3 more threes per game than us


And funny enough, the Hornets have a 4 out 1 in team, we have a 3 out 2 in team

we have a 3 out 2?

more like a 0 out 5 team

Yes, it's still 3 out and 2 in, regardless of whether or not they can shoot.

You and I will never agree about Mitch, he's an awful rebounder for his size too, but that's never mentioned. If you replaced Randle or Mitch with a floor spacer, our offense would improve, it's that simple.

Mitch is actually boxing out this year. It is planned he is sacrificing for the team. Do you see how many easy defensive rebound/payton/RJ get right under the hoop. I have been very critical of Mitch's rebounding in the past. This year he is blocking out much better. The rebound numbers don't both me. He is going his job on the glass and his guys aren't getting OFF rebounds.

It matter though that our guys can't shoot...because the paint is protected. Mitch isn't going to create his own offense, we know that. Most center don't. We have the worst shooting starting lineup in the NBA...that is the reason our offense stinks

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Nah you bugging. RJ has been slashing to the rim and he can’t hit **** at the rim. Same for Payton. Missing layups and jumpers. Just awful

RJ is shooting 58% at the rim.

Randle will always get his numbers, it's just the nature of dominating the ball.

RJ sure didn’t shoot 58% at the rim tonight

Guess who else is shooting 58% at the rim this year though, Julius Deion Randle

[3toheadmelo]

RJ is shooting 58% at the rim.

Randle will always get his numbers, it's just the nature of dominating the ball.

RJ sure didn’t shoot 58% at the rim tonight

Guess who else is shooting 58% at the rim this year though, Julius Deion Randle

I’m talking about tonight though. RJ was just flat out horrible. Layups, jumpers and tunnel vision. You really can’t blame Randle for that.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

we have a 3 out 2?

more like a 0 out 5 team

Yes, it's still 3 out and 2 in, regardless of whether or not they can shoot.

You and I will never agree about Mitch, he's an awful rebounder for his size too, but that's never mentioned. If you replaced Randle or Mitch with a floor spacer, our offense would improve, it's that simple.

Mitch is actually boxing out this year. It is planned he is sacrificing for the team. Do you see how many easy defensive rebound/payton/RJ get right under the hoop. I have been very critical of Mitch's rebounding in the past. This year he is blocking out much better. The rebound numbers don't both me. He is going his job on the glass and his guys aren't getting OFF rebounds.

It matter though that our guys can't shoot...because the paint is protected. Mitch isn't going to create his own offense, we know that. Most center don't. We have the worst shooting starting lineup in the NBA...that is the reason our offense stinks

He's not a good rebounder, you can try and make excuses for it but that is just a fact. There are plenty of times he gets shoved under the rim by a big.


He's a defensive player sure, but he does hurt us on offense, the guards aren't good shooters but they also can't drive to the hoop nearly as often as other players because there's almost always a help defender rotating to contest the shot. Whether that's Randles man or Mitch, as a frontcourt they are both interior bound playing with guys who are predominantly slashers. You can't recognize that they aren't good shooters, then be upset at them for missing when they're constantly put in a position to catch and shoot.

[Chanel Bomber]

I (re)watched Aliens tonight and it filled me with more joy and positivity than a Knicks loss.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

RJ sure didn’t shoot 58% at the rim tonight

Guess who else is shooting 58% at the rim this year though, Julius Deion Randle

I’m talking about tonight though. RJ was just flat out horrible. Layups, jumpers and tunnel vision. You really can’t blame Randle for that.

Yes I can, Randle has the ball entirely too much, he's now 4th in the league in touches per game

This really is no different than Westbrook at this point, he gets his numbers and the team is just bad on offense. We're one of the slowest teams in the league, one of the worst offensive teams in the league, near the bottom in APG.....So, keep giving it to him?

[3toheadmelo]

Guess who else is shooting 58% at the rim this year though, Julius Deion Randle

I’m talking about tonight though. RJ was just flat out horrible. Layups, jumpers and tunnel vision. You really can’t blame Randle for that.

Yes I can, Randle has the ball entirely too much, he's now 4th in the league in touches per game

This really is no different than Westbrook at this point, he gets his numbers and the team is just bad on offense. We're one of the slowest teams in the league, one of the worst offensive teams in the league, near the bottom in APG.....So, keep giving it to him?

RJ missing layups, jump shots and having tunnel vision isn’t a Randle problem. It’s funny when RJ plays well you aren’t saying anything about Randle but once RJ plays like schit it’s Randle’s fault again

Payton had one assist tonight. When he’s your starting point guard of course our APG is gonna be low. He never looks to pass.

[RHODEY]

I cant stand watching Elf, he's in Duhon territory for me...both of em have times where they can contribute but overall just gtfo

duhon actually passed the ball to his teammates.