Lonzo Ball - What's your opinion of him?

[dakomish23]

Berman said that Lonzo is interested in NY.

I think that article is true for any team that is willing to pay Lonzo a contract starting at $18M+

That’s our special. Just add the player option on the last year

[cgmw]

what happened last year, in reality, was that after fizdale was fired we competed at a different level and won more. we actually traded away one of our only good players in morris and we still won more. most of the fanbase wanted him fired but it wasn't really good for our draft position. it had very little to do with mo harkless or whatever name you want to put there.

So nothing to see here? Got it.

And the previous 2 out of 3 seasons? Also just pure coincidence that we won extra games at the end of the year while management pushed veterans over youth?

I attended two of those end of season wins sitting behind the Knicks bench, and I can tell you that Mike Miller was fighting for his job just like all those vet mercs were fighting for their next paycheck. Sorry, Sham, you are 100% incorrect.

If this franchise wanted Fox, Trey Young, or Lamelo at PG all they had to do was swallow their stupid pride for a month or two at the end of the season instead of fighting like hell to prove what exactly?

what's incorrect ? we won more with mike miller, that's a fact. fizdale wanted his job too, he just was no good at it. now you're changing the argument to talk about 3 years ago. fizdale got us the worst record 2 years ago, all we had to do was keep him all year. we didn't.

I don’t see the confusion. I agree with you. We won more with Mike Miller because his mandate, idiotically, was “win now!”

Miller was a mercenary fighting for his paycheck just like half the roster. They fought like hell for those wins, which would only happen in NY under Dolan. No other franchise would be so stupid and reckless and arrogant. Same thing we saw with the Treyverson-THJ smash bros show.

It is literally the difference between Frank starting tonight instead of potentially Luka, Trey, Fox, Sexton, or Lamelo.

I’m part of the problem because I paid good money for my seats behind the bench and my Carnegie Deli pastrami sandwich + makers mark on the rocks, and I was cheering my ass off for those extra wins. Especially the Houston win where RJ hit the game winner in Harden’s grill. But I digress.

We could have had Lamelo. Instead we choose to have his his inferior brother for 5x the price. It’s the Knick way.

[Dave DaButcher]

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[El Poochio]

Omg Lonzo hype

[El Poochio]

LaMelo died so that Lonzo can live

[Kampuchea]

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[El Poochio]

Lonzo and Trent/Norm replacing Elfrid Bullock will take this team to the next level lol at Drummond hopers

[Buttah304]

Lonzo
Powell
RJ
Randle
Mitch

6th Man: IQ

5 players who can shoot damn near 40% from 3PT. We might be able to finally get with the modern times of NBA spacing.

[Monk1718]

Lavar def wants ny. Just comes down to how much it'll cost to get him here. Would yall do 20 mill for him?

Yeah. We’re not doing anything with the money anyway. Might as well take a swing

[El Poochio]

Would you trade cash considerations for 2nd pick in draft?

[NoDopeOnSundays]

You can do that as well and make Powell the 6th man.

I thought you wanted Trent over starting IQ though

I want Lonzo over Trent, can't get them both IMO, would prefer the big PG in that case.

Lonzo is my top target this summer, we'd still have a hole at PG if we get Trent. I want Trent if we can't get Lonzo and we have to go into next season with Rose as our starting PG.

why?

That's too much money to spend on guys who aren't all-stars because both would require overpays for us to get, so you have to pick one or the other IMO.

[sol537]

Lonzo and Trent/Norm replacing Elfrid Bullock will take this team to the next level lol at Drummond hopers

This right here.

We may be able to get Lonzo at this deadline for two 2nd rounders or Knox/Payton. You gotta consider that and then extend the kid on a reasonable deal. I still think Lonzo has a few more levels he can get to with the right coach/system.

Then we target Trent/Norm on a 4-year deal at a reasonable rate. Would be exciting to be a top 4 team in the East with plenty of room to grow (picks, trade assets, good contracts, etc.).

[El Poochio]

Lonzo and Trent/Norm replacing Elfrid Bullock will take this team to the next level lol at Drummond hopers

This right here.

We may be able to get Lonzo at this deadline for two 2nd rounders or Knox/Payton. You gotta consider that and then extend the kid on a reasonable deal. I still think Lonzo has a few more levels he can get to with the right coach/system.

Then we target Trent/Norm on a 4-year deal at a reasonable rate. Would be exciting to be a top 4 team in the East with plenty of room to grow (picks, trade assets, good contracts, etc.).

Yeah I think we would be top 4 as well, will just need that special offensive player at that point, which could happen with someone forcing his way to Knicks or internally with RJ or IQ making the MVP leap

[3toheadmelo]

I want Lonzo over Trent, can't get them both IMO, would prefer the big PG in that case.

Lonzo is my top target this summer, we'd still have a hole at PG if we get Trent. I want Trent if we can't get Lonzo and we have to go into next season with Rose as our starting PG.

why?

That's too much money to spend on guys who aren't all-stars because both would require overpays for us to get, so you have to pick one or the other IMO.

How about Lonzo and Powell?

[HerSports85]

Idk. I’ll probably wait for Lavine to add with Lonzo

[seren]

Kinda weird metric to say someone’s bad, when Payton and Frank are also terrible at drawing fouls too. Payton draws 2.2 fouls a game and he drives a ton more than Lonzo. One more foul shot a game is nothing to brag about when your game is build around attacking the rim. Which Payton isn’t even good at either. Lonzo is a great shooter and puts up high volume 3 pointers at nearly 40%. That’s a much better fit with our two “stars” moving forward. Idk where you’re getting Lonzo’s a bad free throw shooter from cuz he’s shooting 77% on the year. Maybe that woulda made sense last year but he’s much improved across the board.

Lonzo is a horrible shooter. He is the Ben Wallace of point guards.

the stats don't support what you're saying though. he's 13th in the NBA in made 3s this year. and is making them 39% on 7 attempts a game. that is really good.

ben wallace was 4x all star 4x DPOY and won a championship, is this meant as an insult

It is an insult to his shooting but thinking more seriously about it a significantly worse version of Steve Novak could be an interesting comparison. Lonzo is open all day and night from three with Zion in the middle so he has been shooting from three okay. Props to him not being shy I guess. However, that 39 percent is not sustainable when there is any real pressure. His true form is more like his time in Lakers. People would recall how Novak used to be exposed so easily once playoffs started. And obviously my comparison doesn't do justice to Novak but hopefully point is taken.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

why?

That's too much money to spend on guys who aren't all-stars because both would require overpays for us to get, so you have to pick one or the other IMO.

How about Lonzo and Powell?

I like Powell, what are the chances the Raps let him go now though? Also, it's one or the other to me still, cause you want to preserve that caproom just in case LaVine does want to leave. And Lonzo fits with a scoring guard better than Powell, Trent or any non PG would.

[3toheadmelo]

That's too much money to spend on guys who aren't all-stars because both would require overpays for us to get, so you have to pick one or the other IMO.

How about Lonzo and Powell?

I like Powell, what are the chances the Raps let him go now though? Also, it's one or the other to me still, cause you want to preserve that caproom just in case LaVine does want to leave. And Lonzo fits with a scoring guard better than Powell, Trent or any non PG would.

Powell would be a unrestricted free agent I believe cause of his player option. So if we give him the bag he’ll likely come here. Raptors can’t stop that.

Powell is a scoring guard though. He’s averaging 23 PPg as a starter.

We can still get lavine. Just trade Powell if lavine says he wants to come here

[Capn'O]

Lonzo and Trent/Norm replacing Elfrid Bullock will take this team to the next level lol at Drummond hopers

That would be an amazing offseason.

[El Poochio]

Lonzo and Trent/Norm replacing Elfrid Bullock will take this team to the next level lol at Drummond hopers

That would be an amazing offseason.

Actually wouldnt mind Drummond taking the multi year vet min to replace Taj